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In my opinion, they would not have vicious during any part of that attack, because they had equal ranks when the attack began. If they attacked them a second time while they were at full ranks, and...

I’d have to rule no on this one. At the time the attack was initiated, the defender did not have less ranks.

I just want to throw my hat in the ring to support some way of getting quality printed cards. It doesn’t have to be every time something changes. Milestones such as this one, going back to include...

We all know that the different factions play differently from each other to various degrees. The Free Folk, in my opinion, are the ones that play the most different from all of them.

It was...

Going to go with Edric Storm for the kid. The fighter might be Andrew Estermont, but could be a number of people. Same for the last...

I think that’s a great idea for a mechanic, and fits with the dragons. Give them a really good morale rating to start, but they get +1 for each wound taken.

I have a friend that may have what you’re looking for. Reaching out to him now... I’ll let you know if I hear anything.

otherwise, eBay and Facebook are you’re best bets, as Dean said.

We play (friends only, no tournies) is that corners do not count as engagement. It just makes thing so much simpler that way.

I would think it would still need to fit the requirements for a valid ranged attack.

Had I known about tabletop gaming back then, I’d have totally bought into it. The 90’s for me was all about RPGs, especially Vampire: the Masquerade.

Still waiting on someone one to make a 1 v...

Very nicely done!! I especially like the gray used on the attachment!

I purchased Dark Side with my pledge, and am currently keeping the spawn decks separate. I did not get the extra copies of the Seekers, Flingers, and Moths.

What i I did was split the spawn cards...

No, as it is still one instance.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?68063-Align-move-and-dungerous-terrain

Congrats, man! They are an excellent piece!

It’s to further differentiate those zones as being the ones where you get prototype weapons

I don’t see the Blackguard in the app...

Better distribution would be nice. However, I have ordered items fairly close to release and have not encountered issues getting them. I also checked miniature market and game nerdz this morning and...

Some things to note:

Critical Blow triggers off the die result, not the hit.
It also is worded to say that 6’s count as two hits.

So you roll your attack with the Scorpion, while being...

I think they are very versatile in how they can be used, fitting with the theme of the faction. So it’s going to depend on the scenario, and the builds of both armies.

They obviously make great...

The Unsullied, Free Folk, and Dornish are the only ones I can specifically recall using spears right off the top of my head, but I’d be willing to bet there were others just because it is such a...

In addition to the case you mentioned, you would remove them when a unit is removed from the field, and when a card or effect says to remove it. The latter would typically be to replace it with...

I absolutely second the use of the Bowmen/Sworn Shields combo. It can be devastating for the opponent, and has earned their points in more battles than not. I like to use the Sworn Shields as the...

From the game:
One Kickstarter pledge with Weirwood add-on
One additional Stark v Lannister starter (courtesy of CMON Expo)
Two Night’s Watch Starters
One of each unit box and heroes box...

They look great! I love the blood splatter on the Mountain!

Buying multiple starters can be a good cost effective way to boost your armies, but it depends also on how much you like the units in the box.

Looking at a single faction starter, like Nights...

Very nicely done, boomgoose! Good work on the muzzle of the bear on the Champion.

So I’m in a bit of a tough spot. Played Rising Sun tonight and at some point during set up, my 3D Alliance Token for Bonsai Clan went missing. We have looked EVERYWHERE and the only thing we can...

That white armor did turn out well. Excellent job!!

I believe it was confirmed somewhere, I have to ask around to find the pictures, that the Magnar is one of the people in the Free Folk Heroes Box.

The units, aside from Ghost, will all be available outside of the starter. If they aren’t already.

The only minis you’ll have to get the starter to have are the named characters.

Are you...

Lol!! As much as I love the sculpts shown so far for the Baratheon’s, my friend and I are alternating factions, so we don’t have to both go all in. So it looks like I won’t have a new faction until...

I meant to post this final update while on the road to CMON Expo, and then totally got caught up in talking and listening to radio theater editions of H P Lovecraft stories.

Over the the course...

At the Expo now. Will be looking for some casual games Saturday. Hit me up if interested.

My friend just shared them with me. Guess this confirms both Stannis and Renly in the starter.

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They look great! I especially like what you did with the base.

Im also enjoying the more realistic look and approach to detail. It’s a lot less even compared to most other CMON minis. Rising Sun...

I agree that the genetics work well with even lesser House themed armies. The Bowmen/Sworn Shields combo is one I use often as a matter of fact.

That being said, some more House specific stuff...

I like the shared colors between Arya and Rickon. Helps add to the cohesiveness of the Faction.

I agree. They’ve been a blast!

Understandable. The look from the show versus the look from the books are vastly different for just about everyone. It can be nice, as a fan of one or the other, or both, to have some options...

He looks fantastic, as always. While the NMM style is not for me, I do appreciate how it looks, and the talent needed to pull it off.

I managed to squeeze in a few nights of painting recently, so it’s time for another update!

First of all, I managed to finish the cav units. Which means I was then ready to move on to the wash...

My interpretation is that Jaime and Ygritte could kill them both in all instances. Their ability overriding. I think the “always the last figured destroyed” bit is for instances of multiple...

Thanks!! Yeah really close. Now if I could just finish cleaning my house for visitors long enough to finish the minis!! Lol

A couple more days of painting, and quite a bit of progress.

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ALL of the small base units are done with paint, and have had their touch-ups. Touch-ups didn’t take too...

They look great!

AP’s “Fur Brown” makes for a good redhead...

Cool. Thanks for the insight. I had considered at one point including that color in my stark units too. If for nothing else than the name is appropriate. Lol

Nice! I like the look of the added color to the shield. From experience, they can go pretty quickly. There’s not as much detail as there is on the Sworn Shields. I made it harder on myself though by...

From my understanding, you are correct in both scenarios. The flank bonus is only in effect during the attack on said flank. Otherwise, it would get crazy as units become progressively more...

That being said, he’s LOADS of fun in casual games. In fact, let me tell you about the time my one remaining Stark Bowman took out an entire 50pt Lannister opponent...

It’s been awhile without an update. My apologies. Couple of reasons for it tho. I have had a downtick in the time I have to paint recently, prepping for visitors for my kids graduation, tho I’m...

Good luck! Looking forward to seeing them.

They look great!

Thanks for that. By any chance do you recall what promos they had available? CMON typically gives out tickets with purchases at cons where you can trade those tickets in for promos from past...

Is there anyone that went to Adepticon (or another CMON attended con this year) that is able to share what they had available at their ticket booth this year? I’m going to CMON Expo at the end of...

Nice work! I’d like to see a group shot of them in the tray once you’re done, to see how the basing you added looks together. I’ve been thinking about dipping my toe into adding items like that...
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Sorry for the break. Life happened. One kid to prom, one kid coming home from college, unpaid chauffeuring... life of a parent. Lol

I finished up the metallic pass I was in the middle of, as well...

Honestly, I was expecting the last of those to be in their respective Hero Box #2’s.

Found this the other day. While the content is in French, the cards are in English, so you can see what they do. It also includes pictures of the minis.

Free Folk and Night’s Watch Hero Boxes...

Hello again!

Last night I began applying metallics to the minis.

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Darkest on the left, moving to lightest on the left. Rough Iron, while nice, was not quite the color I thought it was...

And...that’s what I get for not playing Lannisters.

Not sure why I thought they were short range only...

Doesn’t make sense to me either, but then we have the Lannister’s...

I don’t have the scorpions yet, but I’m hoping to grab them at the Expo next month, so I only have the Hunters and Trackers to...

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My my friend found this posted on Facebook. It’s the first I’m hearing of this unit, but the art looks right. So I’m assuming it’s legit.

This makes the 4th ranged unit for NW, versus 3...

Another day, another update. Though that may slow down over the next couple days...

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Last night I continued my brown passes with Monster Brown. A nice medium/light brown tone. This is also...

Some pretty good progress made last night, despite a late start. I finished the pass with Ash Grey.

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I then used Spaceship Exterior to do Aemon’s hair. It’s a good bit lighter than Ash...

I don’t have HATE, but I can confirm that CMON has used similar spacers in other games. My guess is they wanted something with a little more to it when bracing fairly heavy tiles from shifting.

Another night, another almost completed pass over the Night’s Watch...

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This is round was done with Ash Grey. A light gray color, but not my lightest, I mainly focused on furs, including...

Looks amazing, as always.

What do do you use for the rocks and gravel on your bases?

Thanks! I hope it helped some. If there is anyone else reading these that has something to add regarding inconsistent paint coverage, feel free to chime in!

I am back from mini-vacation, and ready to share some progress that happened before I left!

But first lets address some questions that have been asked!! (I love discussion and debate. Theory...

Thanks, Fronx! I was just about to try again, because the spam filter kept stopping me. Lol

Its going to take me a moment to properly comment. I have to pick my jaw up off the floor after seeing the detail you’ve added.

So for about a weeks worth of work, things are rolling along fairly nicely, considering it’s about 60 minis at once. I foresee no issues getting these done by CMON Expo at the end of May. Which is...

Sunday did not see any painting done, as I spent the day playing Song with my son and the evening watching the show.

Monday night, however, saw a good deal of progress!

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I started off...

To ensure clarity. The change to Charge on the reference card was to fix a misprint, and not an actual rules change. The ablility to pivot at the beginning of a Charge action has always been there. ...

Friday and Saturday’s paint progress:

Friday night saw me finishing up the run of Necromancer Cloak started Thursday night. So not much to show that hasn’t already been shared.

Saturday, I had...

I hope everyone got their tickets, because CMON announced today that the Expo is SOLD OUT!!

Day three of painting:

So to make up for the night before, I actually was able to further tonight that I had planned. Enjoying those small victories!! Lol

I began by finishing up the base...

Addressed here:

http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?67562-NW-tactic-card-quot-block-quot-and-the-giants

Last night was a short night for me, so I didn’t get as much done as I hoped.

So so a tip that I got from a fellow painter when I first started was to paint how you get dressed. Or from the...

It’s that time!

I had asked in one of my previous posts if something like this would be helpful, so here we go. Bear in mind this is my first attempt at a WIP thread, please be patient. Lol
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I don’t play Lannister, so I can’t help with units. But I will say that 3 NCUs is probably too many, unless you always activate them first. All of them. They have a tactics card that will hurt you...

That could be an interesting mechanic to balance out the power. At the start of their activation, roll a die. Depending on the result, you control them or you don’t. Dani could buff the roll, but...

I agree with Oakwolf’s assessment. And there are tons of named characters to add in there.

I think the Unsullied will have the highest morale we’ve seen, or be completely immune to Morale Checks...

I thought the same thing at first. However, it’s likely the track record that did it. While I appreciate his contributions, Thorne has a tendency to come across much like his namesake from the books....

I’m really hoping the dog sleds will end up being their version of mounted units.

Nice find!

my guess is going to be good morale, better defense than your typical FF unit, and maybe Viscious. This opinion may change if they tease the lord of bones card.

Going back to the...

In my play experience, panic checks have done more damage to a unit than attacks have. So I can see why they don’t have Vicious. I do agree that Lannister and Neutral factions are where they will...

That is one thing I kinda wish I had done. At least changed the order of the grays I used around between the Sworn Shields, Bowmen, and Outriders. Just to further differentiate the units. Hindsight...

While I don’t play Free Folk, I too agree with the thought of having a minimum 2 of each unit. It adds so much flexibility and can make it easier to build lists around.

I havent gotten there yet...

They look good! I’m enjoying seeing different takes on the colors used and the inspirations behind them. It makes them more unique to the artist.

Going to need more skulls for those! Lol

That’s a cool idea with the skulls!

all I have done with the bases is paint them with Army Painter Army Green. The reason being it 100% color matches with their spray primer of the same name. The...

Nicely done! Love the bases. I’m really going to have to try doing more than just painting mine.

They just posted tourney info for you for Adepticon. This includes a link to the official Tournaments Rules as well. I highly doubt it will require the units to be painted.
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From what I’ve heard, all they did was confirm it’s next. No details, teasers, etc... of any kind.

Thanks, Dean!

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I can’t remember right off where it was addressed, but you would not lose range or the ability to attack. Now if the ranged attack had something special about it, like Sundering, you would lose...

Neutral would be cool. It would open scenario options where another house has taken control of Kingslanding and the crown...

still waiting to see how they will release the mounted heroes, and what...

Yeah it’s probably something that’ll stay on a wishlist. Nymeria and wolves are more likely, but even then not something we will probably see.

I think that there is more they could do for the...

On a slightly related note, do you or anyone that has attended a con this year where cmon was present, know what promos they were offering with purchases?

I agree with wesg92. The phase “As its action..”, to me, says that it is adding this to the action options available for the unit to choose from. I also agree that the unit would still get the free...

Well I guess if it happens, you better hope for a good sale/trade, or that four single trays grouped is the same size as a cav tray...lol

Cool idea on the bases tho. You should post your work on...

My friend just suggested a similar thought, wishing they would release a card that lets you field four of the Direwolves as a single unit on a cav tray.

Another character id like to see is a...

You get a free maneuver to use as you would a standard maneuver. Once that action is complete, you then get to pick your “actual action” for that activation, which yes, does include being able to...

Makes sense. Like Ramsay and Reek.

Found Shaggydog

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Slightly disappointed to be honest. I was hoping for something special that triggered off of Rickon being attacked or something. Tho he could be fun with some Bolton’s for...

I had not thought of that!! That would be awesome!!

Card spoilers for both Hero Boxes!!

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I believe these originated from Facebook.

As a Stark player, I like Osha, Meera, and Syrio. I was hoping for a bit more from...

I agree. I think they have a done a good job so far of balancing the units so that there are uses for all of them. There aren’t clearly superior units across the same point cost level within a...

Let me be presenting the First Sword of Braavos, Syrio Forel!!

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Im not sure what I was expecting from him, but seeing the ability, I dont know how I could have considered anything...

CMON has posted an article on the Warrior’s Sons.

https://cmon.com/news/the-holy-warriors

Looks like a fairly well rounded unit that is built around passes morale checks to gain a edge when...

From page 22 of the rulebook.

A Full Tactics Board •
In the event that an NCU would activate, but there are no remaining empty zones on the Tactics Board, then that NCU does not move onto the...

Yes. They just end up doing nothing. But can be good if you need to stall.

Unfortunately, no. Abilities and effects with the same title do not stack.

Since they are both “Vicious”, there would be no stacking. However, if one of them was called something different, but...

I thought the same thing before painting the Lannister heroes, but was surprised by how quickly it actually went once I did them. Of course that may be different when painting a whole unit of...

I’m hoping to make it anyway. Will have to see how the rest of the week goes. Just wanted to get an idea as to whether I should bring it if I do.

I do know a few others that are definitely going...

Anyone going to Tennessee Game Days this weekend?

I agree. It’s a good combination, and helped the details pop more.

They look good! I’m always a little worried to use black primer. I tried a green once for orcs that worked out well for the most part, but was hard to cover with some colors. So I’m concerned black...

Nice work! The detail on the faces really stand out.

We now have more info about Joffrey and the Kingsguard. They can be fielded as a unit all their own, or each one as attachments.

https://cmon.com/news/the-king-marches-to-war

Looking forward to seeing them. I shared these with my friend, who will be painting our Lannister units. Very impressive!!

The good news is that none of the units or attachments in the KS are exclusive, just those particular sculpts of said units. So you can look forward to being able to pick them up at some point in the...

Yes, and no, in my opinion. Each faction has different strengths, that require being played differently. In most cases anyway. I think that the Starks and NW just lend themselves to having their...

I can’t remember if there was anything stating for or against this thought, so I thought i’d check with others first. Just in case someone remembers something I don’t.

Does anyone thing it would...

The game designer does come on here from time to time to post rulings. However, it has not been on much of a consistent schedule. so I would check back periodically, to see if answered.

To be...

As the giants ability only comes into effect when Hits are involved, they would take 100% of the Wounds.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?67393-Savage-Giants-and-no-defense-save

Don’t have the rule book handy, but check it again. There’s should be something in there about placing an activation token on a unit when it activates, and that units with an activation token can not...

You’re correct about my initial comparison of the conscripts. Without the card in front of me, I miss-remembered the hunter’s stat line.

Let me instead say I expect them to have poor morale and...

Hhmmm. That’s an interesting thought. Removes them from a faction defining feature, but fits thematically. And would allow them to be balanced and priced without taking Vows into account. Which could...

I could see the Knights of the Vale being something closer to flayed men it stats. Really tanky units.

I can can agree with poor fellows also being insignificant. I don’t know that we will see...

More box art from Facebook.

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If I had to guess, I’d say the poor fellows and the conscripts are going to be cheap mobile filler units, while the Tully’s will fill the heavy...

Thanks for the heads up. I look forward to a future date.

Facebook spoiler, initially posted in the wrong thread.

Doh!! Wrong thread...

Another Facebook spoiler...

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Cool. Then that will be my plan when I cycle back around to Night’s Watch.

And here’s the last of my Starks from the KS pledge. I’ll likely do some work on another CMON game for a bit, as a break, before working on my Night’s Watch stuff.

I’m considering doing a work in...

I kinda screwed up on the banner, making it darker than intended. I may have to go back and try to fix it.

On the plus side, I added a dry brush of a light skin tone and a second coat of flesh...

Awesome!

Game Cave is closer for me, but I’m not opposed to rotating locations to fit others needs.

Unfortunately I’m not on Facebook, but my friend is. I’ll pass the link to him. Where are you looking to meet up at?

Good luck! I look forward to seeing your work.

Tell me about it!! Still have to finish half my Horde Box, a third of Rising Sun, most of Rise of Moloch, plus Greataxes and the current Night’s Watch stuff. I think I’ll never catch up!

i am...

I wish there was a way to know what promos they will be offering with purchases at the Expo. I’m trying to decide if I want to get more units now, or wait and get tickets for additional items at the...

I would think no, because the ability is to place the card, and it’s already been placed.

Agreed, that base is excellent! I also like how you made him white without going overboard with it.

Some more spoilers from Facebook.

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Had to figure this little runt was going to be an NCU. His ability is going to help trigger some of the bonus effects of Lannister tactics cards. I wonder...

Congrats!!

They revealed the Seneschal today. We’ll be getting a version with a metallic finish.

Non-Song related, we’re also getting promos for Gizmos (haven’t tried it) and a copy of 13 Clues, which my son...

I can just picture the “themeing” of this. Units under Roose’s Command destroying an enemy in such a way that, in death, they become significant... [shudder]

Pictures are from a Facebook group my friend belongs to.

Agreed on Donal and the Halfhand. And possibly Silk? None of the others look like Sam, unless maybe he’s the one sitting in the back....

No clue. I’m still trying to figure out why some of mine turn sideways, and some don’t, when they’re taken the same way.

I agree, and posted Box art appears to confirm. I think they haven’t quite settled on how to release the mounted characters yet.

As for the Kingsguard, I think it will be the OG line-up from GoT....

Let the speculation begin!!

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Welcome to the forum!!

The minis look great. Makes me wish I had added more color to my Greatjon.

Hmm. Now you have me thinking. So what if Varamyr is a NCU, that comes with a 0 cost unit(s) like the Direwolves? If he was a commander, some of his tactics cards could reflect some of the other...

I think the Lord of Bones is a lock, with the Follower of Bones unit coming. Sixskins would be nice. Some of the others, like Magnar, they might hold back for Box 2. And release them at the same time...

My friend just shared this with me, from one of the Song Facebook Groups:

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Gamenerdz has added more listings. Still no info or pictures outside of release dates ranging out through May. These are in addition to those listed above.

Night’s Watch
Heroes Box 1
Conscripts...

Agreed on Osha. The site has made other errors when it comes to this game/franchise, so I’m not surprised.

As as for the Kingsguard, it mentions each one has his own special abilities, so I think...

Alright, another update. Looks like we have contents details now, and I was way off in my theories.

https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/42441/new-year-brings-units-song-ice-fire-minis-game
...

Gamenerdz has also just listed:

Lannister Heroes Box #2
Not playing them, were there any left over from the Kickstarter?

Free Folk Cave Dweller Savages
Perhaps something akin to the Umber...

My wife is from SoCal, and still has many friends there. I’ll have her share this with the geeks among them.

I managed to find a metallic blue paint at a local RC car shop I stumbled into. So that saved me. Lol

I ALMOST put the blue-green wash over the chainmail too. I’m glad I didn’t though. I like the...

Yeah they were a blast to paint. The hardest part was finding the metallic blue paint, and deciding how much wash was too much.

I was a bit concerned myself, going in. But it actually turned out to be better than expected. A decent covering gold and a small detail brush go a long way.

Always happy to help, my friend.

Nice work on the folds. And the base is great, as always.

I really like this sculpt. I wish one of my local stores had picked up a Game Night Kit.

I’ve continued to keep an eye on the Gamenerdz site. They have added two more listings for Song units. Again, with no picture or info outside of a release date of March 29th.

Stark Heroes Box #2...

An artists work is never done... lol. Might not be too hard to add some differences here and there, without redoing everything tho.

Yeah the only one I have completely done is Massive Darkness. And Imperial Assault, but I’m selling that to change over to Legion.

Technically, Black Plague is done, but I lump it in with Green...

The last in a long list of postings today. The good and bad side of painting them mostly all at once.

Maege turned out well, in my opinion. The Crannogman might have done better with a different...

Once again, I struggled with color choice for Littlefinger. I flip-flopped between black and white, or some more flamboyant colors. In the end I compromised by doing a bit of both. I hope you like. ...

Really enjoy him in the books. My only second guess is that maybe I should have added more color, instead of various browns.

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And his his sword looks freakishly huge in these...

Not much to say here. Like the others posted today, they are just waiting for the simple green base to be painted.

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I probably would do the outer wear on Howland differently, if I painted them again. But I think they turned out ok.

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I chose to paint each mini differently, to highlight that they are no so much a trained military unit as they are a bunch of crazy men with axes. Lol

It was also a lot of fun to see how the...

I am really enjoying how everyone is painting these slightly differently. Like they come from different parts of the Riverlands. I choose to have the red as it is one of their house colors, and helps...

I had a hard time deciding the colors for these, but friends and family suggested the red tunic. I feel it was a good choice to break up the piece, and tie him to the Sworn Shields.

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I think I hit all the detail on this one. There’s was a lot of it! An excellent sculpt that I feel turned out really well.

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Finished the mounted Mountain, except for the green base.

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Turned out darker than I intended, due to having to go back and fix some wash issues, but still a good piece I think.

Jaime, in all his glory. Much more vibrant than his captive version.

For our Queen Regent, she is obviously in mourning over the loss of her dear husband, Robert. One hears she has to call Lancel...

Presenting Tyrion Lannister. I hope you like them.

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I only need need to finish the base, which is just getting a couple coats of Army Painter’s Army Green color, once I get more...

Totally understand, coming from someone who learns a lot by trial and error. Lol

My best skin results have come from starting with a color that’s darker than what I want in the end, dry brushing...

Very nice detail on the armor!

CMON posted an update yesterday, with a teaser image. Everything is grayed out, but you can see the outline of the Senechal, along with some Rising Sun KS exclusives. The large box in the back has a...

Awesome! Perhaps once it gets closer to time we can set a time and place for people to meet, put faces to Usernames, and get some casual games in.

Btw, from the looks of the Swag Bag preview...

Another one we can add to the list is Free Folk Follower of Bones. A friend of mine showed me a link to a pre-order on Gamenerdz.com
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Im not following that thread, so I don’t know the counter argument, but I would think that’s my unit not being on an active part of the play area would mean that they can neither target, nor be...

Agreed. I MUCH prefer Ned as an NCU, over his commander version. You still get healing, but it’s easier to get it where you need it, in my opinion.

Excellent work on the face and hair. I’m always concerned I’ll get the googly-eyed effect.

Very nice! I particularly like the addition of the scar!

Nice! I almost went purple with mine, until I got that bright green.

Just my personal preference. I try to avoid painting minis the exact same if I can, unless it makes sense. I mean we all look different, right?

i wish you luck, and look forward to you posting...

Outstanding work, as always!

Thanks! Time to up my wash game!

Yeah I think they would be a fun unit to paint. Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on how you look at it, my friend and I are splitting painting duties by faction between our two sets. I do...

:curse!::curse!:

Had and a high in the 20’s here...

i was was about to stoke the fireplace with excess cardboard tokens...

Nice job!! I’ll be starting my Night’s Watch once the weather warms up enough to prime again.

Nice work! Good job on the basing too! I’m going to have to step up in that area, as my current plan is to just paint the trays and bases green.