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    Default WH armies\' origins

    OK, I have been thinking on this for a while now... most WH armies (and 40k, but I can\'t be bothered to go into that :innocent: ) are based on RL races, extinct or around today. Here is my list so far:

    Bretonnia: The French, Joan of Arc stuff

    Dwarfs: Vikings, something Nordic at least

    Empire: Germans (Wissenland, Middenheim, Marienburg lol)

    High Elves: Scandinavian, with all their blonde hair :D

    Lizardmen: Aztec/ Maya/ Inca

    Ogre Kingdoms: Mongolian, Peruvian... Andes dwellers?

    Tomb Kings: Ancient Egypt (well duh :duh: )

    Vampire Counts: Obviously Transylvanian :D

    ... and that\'s it so far. I don\'t think you can do the same with chaos, skaven, beastmen, that would be a bit unfair :D Stumped on greenskins, Dark Elves and Wood Elves. What do you think? Are there parallels (other than the medieval Catholicism row) lol in 40k, other manufacturers?

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    greenskins- The Scotts! lol

    Dark Elves- Uhhhh?

    Wood Elves - Hippies! lol

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    Yeah, damn those weed-smoking tree-huggers! lol I\'m still not convinced on greenskins... but Dark Elves, they are gothy sadists dressed in S&M gear. I really can\'t think of any race that fully qualifies :rolleyes:

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    The chaos marauders are very vikinglike.

    Brettonian are also based on the English, search for the grail, lady in the lake. Very King Arthurish

    I don\'t think that the greenskins can be classified like this. Actually I\'m not too sure the elves can be either.

    Cathay is China.
    Kislev is Russia.
    Albion is the scottish.
    Tilea I believe was Itali...

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    In general the Warhammer world is a warped version of the real world. So the countries are generally placed in similar locations.


    Races like orcs, skaven etc don\'t really come from any specific part of the Warhammer world, so they don\'t really match to any real world country

    England/Britain is Albion in the Warhammer world, based more on ancient, tribal Britain. I\'d like to see them develop Albion more in the future, we only have couple of minis and the Dark Shadows booklet for background

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    On the 40k note, it\'s basicaly the same projections, but some of them (also in warhammer) can\'t be defined, like Tyranids and such.. but here is a few :)

    Imperial Guard: Russians

    Eldar: Elves, High Elves (and from Marmosets view that would make them) Scandinavians :D (we aren\'t all blond!)

    Spacemarines: Tough one, Brits, Americans, French... it\'s a bit of a mix, but they do have their codexes and imperialism to the emperor...

    Chaos: Osama... :P Terrorists... evil... !

    Tau: Chinese ?.... I dunno...

    Some can be related, some can\'t some can be related REALLY far out :P

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    Are you sure Imperial guard are Russian? Maybe the vostroyans, but I would say the Cadians are more Fascist Germany.

    In the sense that the Tau are very anime inspired (at least in my opinion) I guess you could attribute them to Japan...

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    The beastmen are the german tribes from the era of the roman empire.

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    Interesting. Care to elaborate Shaetano?

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    Originally posted by emopainterguy
    Are you sure Imperial guard are Russian? Maybe the vostroyans, but I would say the Cadians are more Fascist Germany.

    In the sense that the Tau are very anime inspired (at least in my opinion) I guess you could attribute them to Japan...
    Yeah, Japan indeed! Not china :P

    Actually Cadians are more like Americans (jungle troopers... think predator :P), the Commisars.. well.. duh... Russian... but I guess it depends on what people feel like. There might be a bit of German about them too.

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    Ive always thought of the High Elves as a decaying Roman Empire.

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    Originally posted by tentoone
    Ive always thought of the High Elves as a decaying Roman Empire.
    Good call! I can see that.

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    I think different IG units are modeled after many different historical/current armies.
    Catachans: U.S. Vietnam war-era infantry
    Tallarn: Middle-eastern
    Steel legion: quasi germanic uniforms circa WWII
    Vostroyan: Russian


    Tau: alien socialists!


    The high elves have many Tolkienist qualities. As such Tolkien modeled his elven tongues on Finnish; I have read...so scandinavian makes sense.

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    I think they are all as much projection of other cultural products as projection of earth\'s people.
    For instance the Dwarves and Elves are very much adaption from the same in D&D and middle earth, tho their version of dwarves is by far the best, imo. They don\'t look much like vikings to me, they don\'t have the restless invader thing very much. The basis for dwarf must be somewhere in scandinavian lore/mythology, I think, probably refering to some of the people they trampled in Odin\'s name.

    Tau are definitely a response to manga/killabots stuff and probably an attempt to get support from Japs and mangafans everywhere. While I think the brits are a clear attempt to get interestfrom the historical painter/gamers, they are kind of a mix of all the middle-age/renaissance background.

    I don\'t know where orcs/goblins come from, but there are pretty much the same in all settings. I really don\'t wish to compare them to any people on earth, not to offend anybody.

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    uhm, lets see.

    Tau=Japanese.
    Regular Gardsmen=Americans
    Catachan=Vietnam era Americans
    Vostroyan=Russians
    Steel Legion=Germans.
    Eldar=A mix of everyone
    Dark Eldar=Heavy Metal Scandanavians.
    Orks=Chinese and Mongols.
    Space Marines= Chex Mix of nationalities.
    Tyranids=Canadians lol
    Chaos=The people who are \"different\" in school
    Necrons= Zombies

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    I\'m not positive, but I think that orcs/goblins are based on the behavior of American tourists and their kids :D

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    Originally posted by dauber22
    I\'m not positive, but I think that orcs/goblins are based on the behavior of American tourists and their kids :D
    Well I wasn\'t going to say anything, but now you mention it.........................



    Actually Orcs and Goblins can be seen to be any inner city in the UK..........and I\'m not going to insult Orcs by comparing them to Chavs.


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    I\'m not positive, but I think that orcs/goblins are based on the behavior of American tourists and their kids :D
    lollol
    And the desolated countryside where the only thing left standing is the dung-built statue of their god... yeah, I think orc are definitely tourists of any defenition.

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    Originally posted by emopainterguy
    Interesting. Care to elaborate Shaetano?
    Sure,

    take a look at some of the tribes like the Goths, Saxons, Visigoths, ... Their way of war with Rome was not a full scale battle (most of the time). They lurked in the deep forests, raiding settlements, attacking supply caravans, ambushing armies on the move.

    That sums the Beasts of Chaos up quite nicely, wouldn\'t you think?? :)

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    I guess it would wouldn\'t it. lol Good point.

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