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    myu english is not so good but i tried..this is a translation from the spanish team forum where i explained why i used some colours and where and to achieve what....

    i hope it can be useful for someone.. if you have doubts, tell me and i will try to explain it better

    if someones thinks that it is not the place for that please remove it

    here is a translation, i am not sure if it is correct.. but.. i tried


    with the small thing that is, consider q was worthwhile to deceive al eye, attracting him toward the face and the focus of main light, before that to do a degraded very smooth that al end and al tip was what were going to have my competitors, asi that by that side, would not contribute anything new.. but obtaining a sufficient cleaning to compete in a contest of level. ....always conscious that is not perfect.. I consider it pretty, good in light and in the face, but not tecnicamente.. is to comply with the necessary thing.. and sufficient for that

    the face of juan diaz is very good, but itself step al to grow fat the face.. the face is round and nevertheless the face of the actress is sharp. so to obtain that effect you need to remodel it with the painting.. for that reason used blue for reduce the sensation of volume. therefore the shadows are in blue oxford.. while q the pómulos?¿?¿ have carnaciones?¿?¿? (carnations?¿?¿) of an ochre reddish, not orange, to emphasize those volumes.if had put him rose as your you say, loaded the cromatic temperature of the face, q carries a lot red, since the rose is a red one agrisado, that is to say, a red one al that him there they are kitado intensity and if put him rose in the center, it manage to is to charge you the effect of the face and to have q to do it every palid... while if Reddish tones, instead hit but, but you give him too much fleshiness and then it charge you q have done before sharpening the jaws

    The zenithal lighting is forced toward our right putting in shadow parts of the front to accentuate the volume of the face crosswise.

    The lights are my clear but they have a proportion of meat and yellow ice, for which maintains the hot tone.. A hot full one and cold, because if you set you almost all the mini carries blue.

    The carnations (where the blood usually concentrates) of the face give him fleshiness, they give sensation of redondez.. therefore accentuates him the cheekbones the fact to introduce ocres reddish or anaramjados in zones that are degraded toward the light.

    Nevertheless the jaws, al to be too round and wanted to sharpen them, I introduced him blue oxford, that is a blue one without saturacion, without intensity, agrisado, what moves away it me of the eye of the spectator, in contrast with the general reddish tone, that does the contrary effect, that is to say, to approach the volume toward the spectator.

    al real the effect is a lot more clearly












    here is the link.. the pics are not so good.. but... and please, dont give me 1 ratings.. it is not nice.

    http://www.coolminiornot.com/132026

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    mm..it seems to be that it is not so much interesting..

    maybe is not a good place to put it..

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    Banshee, I much appreciate articles like yours...
    But for any english speakers, some parts are very hard to understand.
    Other than that, great painting, and thanks for the post!

    Now... how about this... to improve the english, you can write articles about your other nicely painted mini\'s...:D

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    Superb......:D

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    great work banshee.

    it would be good if there was an english speaking person who also understood spanish.
    that way your tutorials could be translated a lot better.

    i appreciate the effort tho, thanks man.:)

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    I like the mini a lot and the paint is stunning..I\'m sure there is someone on this site you can send the article in spanish to and they will translate Anyone??????
    I would really like to learn more .
    congrats on the prize

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    Post the article in spanish... I can attempt to have my girlfirned translate it... no promises since I think she speaks more of the Mexican\\Cuban dialect. But I\'ll try

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    con lo pequeña que es, consideré q merecía la pena engañar al ojo, atrayendole hacia la cara y el foco de luz principal, antes que hacer un degradado hiper limpilo que al fin y al cabo era lo que iban a hacer mis competidores, asi que por ese lado, no aportaría nada nuevo..sin embargo, tiene limpieza suficiente para competir en un concurso de nivel.....eso si, consciente de q no es ni mucho menos perfecta.. la considero bonita, buena en luz y en la cara, pero no tecnicamente.. es para salir del paso..y suficiente para eso

    la cara esculpida por Juan Diaz es la leche, pero se paso al engordar la cara.. la cara es redondeada y sin embargo la cara de la actriz es afilada. asi que para conseguir ese efecto no te kedan mas remedio que remodelarla con la pintura.. de ahi que usara azules para reducir la senscion de volumen. por eso las sombras estan en azul oxford.. mientras que los pomulos tienen carnaciones de un ocre rojizo, no naranja, para destacar esos volumenes. si le hubiese metido rosa como mucha gente me pregunta, me hubiese destrozado la temperatura cromatica de la cara, q lleva mucho rojo,ya que el rosa es un rojo agrisado, es decir, un rojo al que le han quitado intensidad y si le metes rosa en el centro, lo unico q consigues es cargarte el efecto de la cara y tener q hacerla toda palida... mientras q si le metes tonos rojizos, aunq pegan mas, pero le das demasiada carnosidad y entonces te cargas lo q has hecho antes afilando la mandibula.




    use amarillo hielo pa las ultimas luces, con un pelin de blanco para un par de puntos de luz..porque el amarillo tiene una intensidad q no tiene otro color

    los ocres anaranjados de las mejillas le dan carnosidad pero manteniendo un tono calido ams apagado q si le metiera rojo y me mantiene el tono de carne..eso son carnaciones

    el azul oxford para adelgazar la mandibula y afilarla.. es un azul por lo q me da profundidad y me lo aleja del ojo del espectador, pero no queria un azul intenso, pri eso use azul oxford porque es un azul agrisado.. y como toda la cara leva alguna cantidad de blanco me iba muy bien. el color carnico, nos e q sera, pero algun carne medio o algo asi, con algo de ocre y kizas un poco de rojo...mmm..no me acuerdo exactamente


    sobre meter otros tonos..si le metes rosa en la parte de los carrillos (rosa= rojo+ blanco o gris) no funcionaria.. por lo q lo q haces es desaturar el color.. y yo lo q pretendia era lo contrario.. si la cara tiene un color de base con cierta saturacion, tampoco excesiva pero si saturada levemente.. por el color carne q no se cual es.. no ma cuardo sorry.. bueno..pos si metes un rosa q es un color mas saturado..lo q haces es romper el efecto..entoinces habria q dsaturar el restod e colores para meterlo en consonancia..es decir..la intensidad cromatica por decirlo de alguna manera del rosa es menor q el de la base de la cara.. asi q si mes rosa te lo cargas y si metes rojo es exageradamente saturado..por lo q un ocre rojizo o anaranjado es justo el punto medio..



    PS: I HOPE THAT THE USE OF THE FACES OF OTHER PAINTERS WILL NOT OFFEND THEM.. IT IS NOT MY INTENTION, ONLY A WAY TO SHOW THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENTS INTERPRETATIONS OF THE SAME FACE WITH DIFFERENTS WAYS OF PAINTING..SO PLEASE IF IT OIS NOT CORRECT, TELL ME AND I QUIT IT.

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    great stuff banshee. I voted on your mini and congrats on the win. Only 8 hours for that mini is exceptional.

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    very nice mini and tutorial. But could you add what dillution is needed to get smooth but sharp and precise highlights on small are like face ?

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    the base colours should be the medium one (70-80% water).. then the highlights and shadows use to be with 90% or more of water.. remembering not to let all the liquid in the brush..

    the colour tones aswell with the maximum quantity of water

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    Very nice stuff. I could try and translate, but it would be a lot worse. The blue tone looks so like real life... amazing range of skin tones. A bit like your Audrey Hepburn :kiss:

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    How many passes, or coats of paint do you find your self using, since you\'re using such a high dilution rate? Also, are you just using water?

    PS - no translation attempt yet since my girlfriend is pulling 60+ hour work weeks

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    10-20-40-60- depending on the foinal result i want to achieve... if you wanna paint like allan carrasco, firstly you may have to have his talent..jejejje and then you should do about maybe...70-80-90 coats...


    i usually dont do more than 40-50 when i do my cleanest paintjob.. in that case..only 10 or 20 could be great.. notice that is a difficult thecnic, but when you dominate it..the results are faster, better and more solid.. and you need it if you want to paint in a very very high level.

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    The mini is just so amazing, and the face in particular leaves me breathless. I just can\'t understand how you can make so many tones in such a small face, and do the lightning so perfect. I wish you could teach me! I do not like the base of the mini, but that is my only criticism. Keep it up alfonso, master.:)

    Torstein

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    Default A little edit

    Hopefully this is a bit clearer, my Spanish isn\'t great but it worked okay :innocent:

    \"with the small thing that this is, consider why it was worthwhile to deceive the eye, attracting the viewer toward the face and the focus of main light, before that to overly smooth gradations in that place and the tip was what my competitors were going to have, if that was the same as mine, would not contribute anything new.. but obtaining a sufficient cleaning to compete in a contest of level. ....always conscious that is not perfect.. I consider it pretty, good in light and in the face, but not technically.. is to comply with the necessary thing.. and it is sufficient for that.

    the face that juan diaz sculpted is very good, but the face is a bit fat... the face is round, while the face of the actress is sharp. so to obtain that effect you need to remodel it with the painting.. for that reason used blue for reduce the sensation of volume. therefore the shadows are in blue oxford.. while the cheeks have blushes of an ochre reddish, not orange, to emphasize those volumes.if you had put them pink as yours for instance, loaded the chromatic temperature of the face, which has a lot of red, since the pink is a red one greyish, that is to say, a red one to that him there they stop being intense and if put it pink in the center, you can control the effect of the face and to do so have to do it very pallid... while if in reddish tones, instead hit but, but you give him too much fleshiness and then it controls what you have done before sharpening the jaws

    The zenithal lighting is forced toward our right putting in shadow parts of the front to accentuate the volume of the face crosswise.

    The lights are my clear but they have a proportion of flesh and yellow, for which maintains the hot tone.. A hot full one and cold, because if you set you almost all the mini carries blue.

    The carnations (where the blood usually concentrates) of the face give it fleshiness, they give a sensation of roundness.. therefore to accentuate the cheekbones the fact to introduce ochres, reddish or orange tones in zones that are directed away from the light.

    Nevertheless the jaws tend to be too round and I wanted to sharpen them so I introduced some blue oxford, a blue tone without saturation or intensity, greyish, which moves away from the eye of the spectator; in contrast with the general reddish tone which has the contrary effect, that is to say, to approach the volume towards the spectator.

    Seen in real life the effect is a lot clearer\"

    Hope that helps!

    ~Bill

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    Really nice. Don\'t worry about the score, LOTR always scores lower and your pics aren\'t the best, also you have one of the few minis where the registered average is higher then the overall, so its doing pretty well.

    :)

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    Very nice, I did the voting thing also.

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    Default Here are some bigger pics for those who want to see...




    ~Bill :cool:

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    Nice one Bill, I can actually see all the details now :D

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