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    Does anyone else ever notice that with a new brush, a little paint \"knobby\" keeps on forming on the tip of the brush... ggrrrr it always bugs me. Does it eventually go away?

    James

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    Paint knobby? Not sure what you mean by that ???

    But new brushes tips are sealed with a soluble glue, trying giving them a good wash, this may be causing the problems.

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    Yep. I hate the nobby too. I use mostly washes and it keeps coming off and leaving bumps on my figs. I have to clean my brush constantly to keep it in check. By the time a brush is broken in well enough to stop getting a nobby it\'s almost too worn out to use for anything but dry brushing. Oh, the trials of painting.:cussing:

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    try a series 7 by W&N, it\'s worth it: no such problems! (at least for me)

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    Originally posted by usurpator
    try a series 7 by W&N, it\'s worth it: no such problems! (at least for me)
    Yea get some good quality brushes, they may cost more but they are definately worth it in the long run. W&N, Rosemary\'s and Rapheals (sp?) all have good reputations.

    Iv been using W&N series 7\'s for a few month now, and iv never had a knobbly problem, or any other problems for that matter.

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    I only use the series 7 regular and minis and every time I start a new one there is one hair on the tip that gathers paint as I work. it\'s not really a big deal, I was just wondering who else get them :D

    Cheers

    James

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    How quickly does it form?

    I tend to rinse, brush off the water and re-point the brush (yum!) every three or four minutes, personally.

    I\'ve never seen anything like this.

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    Sounds like paint consistance, not the brush.

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    Doesn\'t seem familiar...

    It\'s a good idea to rinse your brush very often in water. I usually rinse it before every other or third time I put paint on it. It may seem like an unnecessary hassle, but it helps keeping the brush in good shape and stop paint going up the bristles and in under the ferrule.

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    I\'ve had that same little knob at the very tippy-tip of a Series 7. Yeah, it\'s like one hair is every so slightly longer than the rest and paint gathers on it. It happens with paint thinned 1:5 with water even. Also, frequent rinsing doesn\'t help, the paint will build up after half an hour or so.

    It can be infuriatingly tricky to do, but once it has got its knob, try to separate the hair from the others, then nip it off the nail clippers. Fixed mine right up, just expect to swear, curse and spit blood while you try to separate that hair from the rest. lol

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    Like Modderrhu, I occasionally get a natural-hair brush with just one slightly longer hair that causes problems, and just cut the tip off that hair. Sometimes I\'ll get a tiny fiber or something that attaches to the end of a brush and acts sort of like that hair. It doesn\'t usually rinse off, but gently pulling on the brush tip with my fingers generally does the trick.

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    Originally posted by JaPizzy
    Does anyone else ever notice that with a new brush, a little paint \"knobby\" keeps on forming on the tip of the brush...
    Nope.

    I\'ve experienced this every now and then, I think every acrylic/vinyl painter probably has, but it\'s something I usually associated with a paint mix that\'s a bit old on the palette and/or I\'ve painted too long without rinsing the brush out. Modderrhu\'s observation might have something to it too but I tend to hand-pick my brushes so I haven\'t had one of those in a long while.


    Originally posted by lizcam
    I have to clean my brush constantly to keep it in check.
    You really should do this anyway.

    Rinse thoroughly and often, that\'s my motto. Actually I have a lot more mottos than that but it\'s one good one :D

    Originally posted by lizcam
    By the time a brush is broken in well enough to stop getting a nobby it\'s almost too worn out to use for anything but dry brushing.
    What the... ??? What are you doing to your poor brushes? Are you using synthetics or sable or Kolinsky?

    Einion

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    I rinse my brush every dip, sometimes 2. I have tried to clip it off before, with nail clippers, and ruined a #1 round :( I took a little too much off and then it had a blunded tip. I\'ve never thought of trying to isolate the hair and pull it to the side to clip it, that\'s a good idea. Would probably be a bit harder to do with the miniature versions though.

    The little ball only forms every few rinses or so, and I paint with very thin paint, never less than 1:1 for anything but basecoats.

    They really aren\'t that hard to deal with unless you\'re trying to dot eyes which is why I started whining in the first place :D

    Cheers!

    James

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    Originally posted by lizcam
    I have to clean my brush constantly to keep it in check.
    You really should do this anyway.

    Rinse thoroughly and often, that\'s my motto. Actually I have a lot more mottos than that but it\'s one good one :D

    Originally posted by lizcam
    By the time a brush is broken in well enough to stop getting a nobby it\'s almost too worn out to use for anything but dry brushing.
    What the... ??? What are you doing to your poor brushes? Are you using synthetics or sable or Kolinsky?

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    Irinse in water every few seconds but what I mean by cleaning is using liquid brush cleaner. I have been using cheap brushes but thats mostly because I don\'t have a sorce of good ones out here in the boonies and buying them on line works but takes time. I want to get on with it. The few good brushes I have (mostly fine detail 20/0 to 30/0) don\'t have the problem with the nobby. Again, it could be cheap paint, too. I have the same issue with paint I have with brushes. I am replacing everything with (right now) Reaper master series but it\'s espensive and slow. Plus, our water is really really hard. I know that doesn\'t help at all.

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    yeh i sometimes get those little wiggly bits on the end of my fine detail brushes, and when i paint eyes the paint dries on it before i can even put it to the mini...then i swear abit, rinse off and try again... i dont like clipping my brushes (which are cheapo BTW) cuz i dont drive and if i mess up it will be like 2 weeks before i can get a new one... lol i hope that helps lol lol

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    Originally posted by JaPizzy
    I have tried to clip it off before, with nail clippers, and ruined a #1 round :( I took a little too much off and then it had a blunded tip.
    Try using a sharp knife in stead, easier to see what you are doing :o

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    Originally posted by lizcam
    I rinse in water every few seconds but what I mean by cleaning is using liquid brush cleaner.
    I have been using cheap brushes but thats mostly because I don\'t have a sorce of good ones out here in the boonies and buying them on line works but takes time. There are quite a Few Cmonners who would more than likely help you out by selecting good ones for you.The internet is a wonderful thing for making friends.
    The few good brushes I have (mostly fine detail 20/0 to 30/0) don\'t have the problem with the nobby. 20/0 & 30/0 :o It looks like you\'ve made the same mistake that a number of painters, myself included, have. Getting a smaller brush doesn\'t mean the capacity to paint smaller detail as I find that the amount of paint on the brush that small dries a lot quicker than I can use it. I\'ve virtually stuck at 000 , 00, 0, 1 & 2 as a standard set (W&N series 7)

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    Yep, A larger brush with a good point is better than the teny tiny brushes available. The paint doesn\'t dry as quick and the hold alot more in the barrel.
    I only use W&N sizes 0,1,2 and 4, similar to DR.

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    I thought it was only me... that one long hair in a brush that seems to pop out of a tip I had assumed was just a hair from the air falling into the brush/paint. Never been bothered enough to snip it off though, not that bothersome, just wash and reshape seems fine for a bit.

    As for a little ball on the end, have had that very rarely also. More thinking it\'s something to do with the paint than anything else, little bit of dried stuff crumbling in perhaps.

    Enlightening topic though, at least now I know it\'s not me being careless when mixing perhaps.


    Oh and have to agree on sizes, lately I\'ve been doing everything with a W&N size 0, only occasionally larger or smaller. (baecosting and fine detail). Also found the normal brushes are far better than the \"miniature\" range in my opinion, the 000 mini brush for example is so short and small it holds little and is dry in no time at all.

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    Generally I would agree with Mike on the brush sizes. However, the smaller brushes have their uses. If you want to get some sort of texture impression on surfaces I find small brushes very useful.

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