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    this is an email i posted to my dad just now. it simply entails a letter i received here at college about our internet. the events leading up to this are yeah.... dont feel like typing it right now but if people ask il\'l post however i feel the rest of the post is rather self explanatory

    \"Most of our problems to date have been a result of students using file sharing programs such as (list of programs) to upload games music and movies. this illeagle activity has put tremendous strain on the systam and congested our internet pipe thereby limiting the access to other users and slowing down the system to a crawl.\" ok heres my problem with this one. first of all how can this be the problem when it was like this in augest when there was mayb only 50 of us here? 50 people even if doing such things should not slow the system (if properly set up) all that much. also in order to do such things you must first be able to be connected to the internet of wich 80% of the time (about 70% of the time to date) we cant connect AT ALL.



    \"student requierments

    1 routers or hubs are not compatable (understandable. but what if you want a LAN for just your house? not an issue in my house but some houses may want to use their own LAN for file sharing and what not.)



    2 gaming systems are not compatable (also understandable)



    3 current recognized antivirus products are required to be purchased by all users. in the event a user does not have a current anti virus and is infected with a virus that tries to propogate the network, that user will be billed for all associated charges and will have their network dissconnected until their PC is fixed. (this is somewhat understandable but is it not still possible for viruses to get through even with anti virus? what if i have anti virus and 1 gets through am i still charged?)



    4 as canadore is a learning institustion abs this service is being provided for educational and research purposes, visiting of pornographic websites or piracy from file sharing is prohibited. violators can have their service terminated (first of all we are paying for the internet as a part of our fee and thats the ONLY reson it is provided. second if you ask me it seems as though they are litterally watching us, and what we are doing. this if you ask me is an invation of privacy. to be honest im not sure if i even want the internet if its going to be like this! feel like your being watched, and if you make 1 wrong move (playing games?) its gone....)

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    3 current recognized antivirus products are required to be purchased by all users. in the event a user does not have a current anti virus and is infected with a virus that tries to propogate the network, that user will be billed for all associated charges and will have their network dissconnected until their PC is fixed. (this is somewhat understandable but is it not still possible for viruses to get through even with anti virus? what if i have anti virus and 1 gets through am i still charged?)

    No it clearly states that you will be billed only if you do not have one of the three recognized antivirus programmes on your system.

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    I hate to say this, but these are their rules. You know this when you go there, right? If you can’t follow something as simple as this, maybe you should leave. Is downloading pirated stuff really that important than an education?

    The same thing happened t my wife and some of her co-workers here. Downloading pirated stuff made the network here slow as hell. So, it was banned at her office. They didn’t mind and simply stopped doing it.

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    So, going to school in Omish country? How\'s that working out for ya? I guess I don\'t really need to elaborate on how I feel about what you posted. Same as you for the most part I\'d imagine.

    Schools always have outdated rules and regulations. It\'s just the way it is. Try to not let it get to you too much. Make use of the computer lab, library etc when you can, if you can. Until they get their head out of their rear and fix the problem instead of passing the buck off on the people downloading porn and music. Just remember you\'re there for an education, not a revolution. Things will work out sooner or later %99 of the time, regardless of how much it puts you off or how much of a stink you raise. Which is why I suggest trying to let it roll off your back so to speak.

    Your education is way more important than anything else and it will suffer if you\'re pissed off and annoyed and fighting with the \"man\" or the establishment over random crap.

    Anyway, hope it all gets worked out quick.

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    Hi wolf!

    School networks, especially \"resnet\" can become 24/7 file sharing bandwidth hogs, so I sympathise with the college somewhat. I also recognize that while pornography is not illegal, it is their right as an internet provider to students to decide it\'s not a good use of network resources. (I\'m sure it could really add up with 100\'s of frustrated youths on one network :D). I doubt they monitor ANY of a user\'s traffic unless the user is generating massively over-average traffic, however, simply for practical reasons.

    I understand why this kind of thing FEELS wrong, and I think learning institutions should exercise the bare minimum of \"censorship\" or whatever you call it to keep their networks from becoming less usable for work. I guess I think they should not care much about WHAT (legal things!) you do with the connection, as long as you don\'t slow everyone else down.

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    i feel for you man.

    i love living in sweden we have absolutely no rules at all at school, and noone can monitor our traffic since we have a anonymous lohin system.

    but as said, studies are worth more than piratebay or playboy, in the end atleast

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    4 is pretty much standard for most workplaces, many of which actually block as many \'non-work\' sites as possible.

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    My sister\'s workplace has cut internet completely for personal use as some people were using it during worktimes and not just at lunchtime and other breaks. Therefore my sister only has access to one internet connection at the moment; mine. I have to put up with her coming round here and obsessing about Ricky Martin (she also does her banking online but that doesn\'t take long).

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    Welcome to the real world. Controls to excess are bad, but it is not your network, it is theirs. If you want to download, go barefoot or add 10 pc\'s to your own internet node, then buy your own service.

    1. It says hubs and routers are not compatable, what about switches?

    2. Understandable

    3. Understandable

    4. Totally understandable. When my #1 daughter is playing WOW and #2 daughter is downloading anime, then that leaves very little pipe for me to post on CMON. Imagine a couple hundred people all downloading music and movies and see how big a pipe the school would need, calculate the cost, factor in the shool\'s overhead and distribute across your tuition. Much cheaper to follow the rules.

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    hahaha you\'ll have to pay for porn now!!

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    Originally posted by freakinacage
    hahaha you\'ll have to pay for porn now!!
    You would be in stuck Tim, you kinky bar steward!

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    I work in IT at a university. Everything you posted comes down to one thing: money.

    Routers on student networks cause problems because a lot of them serve DHCP. Multiple DHCP sources leads to duplicated IP\'s and big network problems, which techs then have to try and figure out. Money. Hubs? Not really sure, unless they were including that thinking that most users wouldn\'t know the difference and would hook up routers thinking they were only hubs. If you are having intermittent network connectivity issues this might be part of the problem.

    File sharing: at least in the states, universities have to pay their backbone provider per volume, not a flat rate like household service. Our data bill increased 3x (I think $150k a year to $450k a year were the number I heard) when file sharing started to become popular in the dorms. Our solution was to install a \"packet shaper\" that limits bandwidth of certain types of traffic when they hit the campus barrier. Internally it\'s still quite fast, but file sharing with the outside world happens at a snail\'s pace from the dorms. It saved us a ton of money.

    As for being restricted from porn, who determines what is valid and what is not? If they want you to not visit some sites they should just blacklist. One could certainly generate as much traffic visiting CMON as any porn site, I suppose. I don\'t get this one...

    Anyway, good to hear from you and keep studying! Getting through school all at once will make life so much easier than piece mealing it over 10 or 20 years.

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    well. the new impliment is at play. funyn thing is i got home today and guess what! same crap as always happened same with last night.. so far im not convinced this fixed their little problem lol

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