\"Correcting\" the GW Battlewagon
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    Ok, here is my take on the battlewagon. I don\'t mind the kit, in fact it\'s pretty cool and actually a lot simpler than I expected. But it bugs me that the wheelbase is SOOOOO damn narrow. I mean, it\'s orky so it should be BEEFY BEEFY BEEEEEFCAAAAAKE! Instead of \"It\'s fun to tip over on the corners when we shoot da guns\"...

    So I took the kit, widened the wheelbase while keeping the basic vehicle width, removed the big \"Jaw\" off the front and added a proper krusha wheel. The next one will probable have a harvester style crushy sort of intake- hard to explain I\'ll build it (if I can work out how).

    Anyways - pics of the \"corrected\" battlewagon...









    Enjoy!

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    I personally think that is one of the greatest kits they have come out with in years. And I think what you did to it is fantastic! cant wait to see it painted! As an owner of a custom built jeep rock crawler, I TOTALLY agree about the wheel base!

    well done man!

    BTW, the howd you make the roller?

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    What!?!

    You cram your orks in that with only a couple of windows to shoot outta... you trying to start a fight?

    Orks need open tops!!!

    Seriously, Nicely done!:flame:

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    It does look better, you are right. Is the roller built out of card?

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    Nice improvement, deffinatley more orky in my book.

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    The roller is a combination of card and plasticard/rod/tube.

    Ok, well I haven\'t been posting much lately - so thanks for all the comments BTW.....

    Anyway - taking some other ideas I\'ve had and stuff that other people have been doing into consideration I plunged headlong into building the second battlewagon. This one I wanted to have the Killkannon + Kannon combo of the old (I think) Lungbursta wagon.

    Now in advance I will admit that I think the dozer blade on the front is a bit weedy - but for some reason I actually think it works. For me anyways... I haven\'t taken any pics of the undercarriage at this stage to show how I widened it - I\'m kinda too tired to care about that atm...so maybe another time... hehe!

    This time I widened the troop bed, closed in the roof more to represent more of an \'ard Case and built an entirely new turret and cannon to represent the killkannon. Hope you like - here\'s some pics:







    And an aerial view of both the first and second models. You\'ll notice that the second is only slightly wider. I honestly think the main problem (and it seems from looking at other mods on the net that many agree) is the that tracks are too narrow. The wheelbase looks more like a train than a beefy destructive ork carrier of mayhem and destruction. Anyway - I rambly too much - here\'s the pic:


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    Ok, here\'s some extra pics for those eager to try something similar to what I\'ve done! :) I\'ve taken a few pics of the undercarriage to give you an idea of what I did and how it looks, and I found a pre-release pic of the sprue layout that let me show you a mockup of where to cut the important sections.

    Here\'s some pics for you to peruse:







    As best a view as I can get of the side of the piece:



    And here\'s a rough example of where to cut:



    The red line indicates the cut lines. The yellow line indicates where the wagon tray slot runs. The idea is to cut at an angle to this slot and the go straight from there along. you can just cut it at the angle all the way if you want, but you need to trim it a bit to fit the wheels in if you do it that way. I think this way ends up a bit neater. I actually cut it straight along at the angle on the first one, and the second one I fiddled it a bit more. I prefer the end result of the second cut method. You\'ll also notice I put a piece of plasticard into the breach of the cut in the model, this is to lend strength to it.



    In this pic I have circled the added tray areas. I cut off the old tray sides and replaced them with these which are slightly wider. Not much but enough to make a big difference. I deliberately made one squared off because - well - i wanted to. And the panel lines on these have been scratched in using a steel rule and one of my sculpting tools. They are actually engineers picks, and I have a whole set of them. The tool I used have a sharp end and being a pick is designed to scratch stuff.

    A tip for all those rivet makers - here\'s how I do it.

    I use a combination of methods and any one of which will help out. Lately, on the smaller stuff like this, I get various thicknesses and types of plastic rod. I like to mix up square and round and I wish I could get some hexagonal that would be sweet. Then I cut off thin slices of the rods and pile them all together. After that, I use something to hold a small pool of superglue and using a very sharp small stanley blade, I pick each rivet up with the sharp tip and dip it into the superglue. Then I put the rivet where I want.

    Another way I get my rivets is to use a hand punch. I haven\'t been able to get one smaller than 1/16\" but it still works fine. I also have a 1/8\" and also use a standard paper hole puncher. These can be used on card (although it\'s not very reliable on card as it tends to split in the thicker sizes) and various plastics like old ice cream containers. I like to stack up different shapes and sizes into nut-bolt-washer type configurations on my larger scratchbuilds and use those for added detail. If I could fine a hex punch I would be in HEAVEN :) I do also have a 1/8\" square hand punch, so I get a nice variation of shapes.

    One other thing I sometimes do, and it\'s really annoying, is to get the square pieces and carefully cut off the corners to give a \"sortof\" hex shape. I do it a little bit it\'s pretty fiddly.

    Be careful with some plastics as they resist superglue and others may be melted by it.

    Anyway, hope this is useful :)

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    One thing I forgot to mention - there are additional cuts to make so that the track sections will fit. You have to clear out some rivets an plate sections to make them sit flush on the panels. Here\'s a representative pic so you can see about where they should be, roughly.


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    its really lookin good... cant wait to see some paintage on these things!

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    Looking good, the transport section was nowhere big enough on the stock model. I think the kit in general could benefit from being 50% wider, if not more.

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    Great job! They are turning out very well. Makes me want to convert one... or two :D

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    so.. do cooler models win the game more often?

    I hope so!

    Lookin forward to the next post.

    Cheers
    Tim

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    That depends on who you ask, we gamers are a superstitious lot and many of us have unique and different rituals/fears/etc. :P

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    Well I can guarantee that the first time I put one of my cool models on the table to play a game with they get blown to bits. The only exception to this was the game I played with 3 stompas as part of a Dredd Mob. That was the only exception where the stompas just wouldn\'t die.

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    Originally posted by Lemmingspawn
    Well I can guarantee that the first time I put one of my cool models on the table to play a game with they get blown to bits.
    Hear, hear! Same for me. I never play a model for the first time in a competition setting. Always get\'s destroyed, most times, in the first turn. It\'s like having to break some kind of gaming cherry each time I finish something.

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    Originally posted by Sukigod
    Originally posted by Lemmingspawn
    Well I can guarantee that the first time I put one of my cool models on the table to play a game with they get blown to bits.
    Hear, hear! Same for me. I never play a model for the first time in a competition setting. Always get\'s destroyed, most times, in the first turn. It\'s like having to break some kind of gaming cherry each time I finish something.
    We do not play orks to win, we play orks to laugh as our wonderful converted minis get blown up! I few years back I converted a battle wagon out of a land raider and forge world ork truck and it made its first appearance at a GW tournament. Well I turbo boosted the wagon over some rubble and had to roll to see if it broken down going over the terrain and IT DID! First turn of the game and the wagon broke down. It was very funny but my orks were slaughtered.

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