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    Quote Originally Posted by mickc22 View Post
    no you can't!
    it doesn't set properly 'cause it doesn't reach the required temp, to quote Katherine Dewey:[/url]
    I hate doing this but yes you can boil Super Sculpy.I've done it and it seems fine.
    I needed to harden the clay but I had a bust with plastic teeth and didn't want to chance to melt or soften the the plastic and warping.I tried boiling and it worked fine. The only thing I noticed was the clay lost it's colour and went from GS green to a very pale green. The only thing I did was leave it to boiling longer than if it was being baked.

    Also steam is hotter that boiling water. You need extra energy to convert water to vapor and thus there is more heat energy in steam. This is why steam burns are worse than the water burns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyewantyourskull View Post
    Another trick for using Sculpey is to use a heat gun. The cheapest option is a paint stripper that you can find anywhere that has home improvement stuff. You have to be careful not to get too close and burn the outside of the sculpt, but with a little practice, you'll be able to bake in very precise portions of your sculpt without having to bake the whole thing over and over and over.

    heat guns can be useful but are a bit inaccurate, not to mention a little dangerous, should you inadvertently contact a body part(yours not the sculpt)
    There are no problems with 'series baking' so long as you use an oven thermometer (do not rely on the oven settings!) and correctly time the bake, if you are worried about previously baked parts scorching, they can be covered with damp paper towels. Although that is really only an issue when sculpting in color, as this is going to be cast in resin it shouldn't present a problem
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    very nice cant wait to see him finished.are you painting him?
    what kind of wings are you doing and can you do a shot by shot on how you do them?
    im doing a bust that will have wings and need some tip's.
    thanks in advance. great job

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    Quote Originally Posted by DXM View Post
    I hate doing this but yes you can boil Super Sculpy.I've done it and it seems fine.

    I needed to harden the clay but I had a bust with plastic teeth and didn't want to chance to melt or soften the the plastic and warping.I tried boiling and it worked fine. The only thing I noticed was the clay lost it's colour and went from GS green to a very pale green. The only thing I did was leave it to boiling longer than if it was being baked.

    Also steam is hotter that boiling water. You need extra energy to convert water to vapor and thus there is more heat energy in steam. This is why steam burns are worse than the water burns.
    Alright, yes you can boil Polymer clay, but it doesn't fully cure the sculpt all the way through
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    You didn't by chance see Hogfather reasonably shortly before you started this project?
    Great stuff so far

    Marc
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    Thanks for putting me right on the boiling issue Mick. Would hate to think my poor advice ruined someones work

    Lol that sounded sarcastic but wasnt meant to be. I read your link before you posted it tbh and you beat me to putting a warning up. Thinking back Im pretty sure I boiled part of a sculpt to preserve some detail while working on another area.

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    nah, you're ok, didn't think it was,
    the boiling may set the first few millimeters of the sculpt, but it won't cure the whole thing properly, like Kathy says you're at least 50F below the manufacturers baking temp, anyway I'm sure Victoria has done her homework

    As the saying goes:
    "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing"
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    oi! come on Vic, don't think you can slip off the first page and we'll forget about you

    more pics!!
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    Here we go. Coming along ,still a lot to go. I think I am going 'fur crazy'. Its so tedious that I am almost looking forward to moving onto the feathers for the wings. But the client is very happy so far, which is nice.
    What's done still needs to be a bit smoothed and tidied up.
    Any tips for smoothing sculpy? I'm currently using white spirit and a brush.
    I have not baked it yet, I'll put it off as long as possible. But I will have to go back and finish bits like ears, tusks and underside once its been baked.
    Its 42 degrees C. outside, so its looks like I'll just have to stay inside by the aircon and sculpt some more fur.
    Cheers.



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    Quote Originally Posted by victoria View Post
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    Its 42 degrees C. outside, so its looks like I'll just have to stay inside by the aircon and sculpt some more fur.
    OK Rub Salt(*) into the wound, the UKs virtually ground to a halt with temperatures around -8 degrees.
    (*if you could find any salt, that is)

    Seriously though the amount of effort you are putting into this with individual hair clusters is remarkable. Whilst I you had my admiration for your previous sculpting/converting works you've taken it up another notch.

    I just hope that your customer realises the amount of effort going into this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by victoria View Post
    What's done still needs to be a bit smoothed and tidied up.
    Any tips for smoothing sculpy? I'm currently using white spirit and a brush.

    I think you use alcohol, but I'm not 100% on that

    Its 42 degrees C. outside, so its looks like I'll just have to stay inside by the aircon and sculpt some more fur.

    yeah, OK, rub it in. It's -5C and as low as -12C at night!

    Cheers.


    this is looking great, I don't think you'd ever have got the same effect by teasing it out. Looking forward to seeing the wings take shape

    have you heard of Amanda Day, she lives up the Gold Coast, her website is Twinessence, she has a bunch of videos, a blog, on facebook etc, all on her website. May be worth getting in touch with her regarding the smoothing. At least she'll be awake more or less at the same time as you, so might be easier to get in touch with her
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    wow, looking great. very textured..
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/freak-in-a-cage/freakinacage-1.jpg

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    Lovely work so far. Excelent fur. Have to say I really like his "face" expression too.

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    Very good work, very expressive, the fur is really well done.

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    I'm starting to think we'll be able to see steam coming out of it's nose as it breaths when your finished! Really excellent work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victoria View Post
    Here we go. Coming along ,still a lot to go. I think I am going 'fur crazy'. Its so tedious that I am almost looking forward to moving onto the feathers for the wings. But the client is very happy so far, which is nice.
    What's done still needs to be a bit smoothed and tidied up.
    Any tips for smoothing sculpy? I'm currently using white spirit and a brush.
    .........
    I found this reply on the Elvenworks forums, to someone asking the same question

    "...Turpenoid, Mineral Spirits and Naptha (Ronsonol lighter fluid) are more agressive than rubbing or denatured alcohol do. Also, they tend not to dry the clay as alcohol does. Adding diluent to alcohol (one drop per ounce) can prevent drying and cracking of the surface is too much is used. With all of these solvents, the clay becomes softer on the surface. This is why using these solvents is usually a last step.
    It takes a bit of experimentation to find the method and media that works best for you.
    Hope this helps,
    Katherine"

    like she says,
    Hope this helps
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    Thanks again for all the feedback and tips. Much appreciated.
    I have almost finished it up to the adding wings stage. I still need to finish ears, tail and underside. I have just successfully baked him. (that bit always scares me).
    I used a baking method I picked up some time ago. Heat the oven to the required temp. Then put in the model and turn the oven off. This way it wont get burnt. He'll probably go back in for another bake later.
    I ended up using a little bit of white spirit and a soft sable brush for smoothing. I don't know where to get rubbing alcohol so I've not tried it.




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    Wow... I am so impressed I don't know what to say. I know this is for a client, so I don't know what your contract with him/her is, but is there any chance you'll be casting this one? That's the most realistic and interesting boar I've ever seen (not that I've seen too many boar minis...this one has undeniable character), and I'm itching to paint it...

    Either way, he is absolutely gorgeous.
    Blasting forth in three part harmony!

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