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    Default Need some minis to get back into the hobby.

    I need some mini suggestions to get me back into the hobby. I can't decide on anything to paint. Any ideas? Maybe something that has a step-by-step guide for a reference.

    Thanks!

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    I was inspired in particular by a White Dwarf article painting Sgt Lorenzo from the Space Hulk range. I studied that article a lot then attempted to develop my technique with painting that model in mind. The GW stuff is the only range i've seen with step by step guides, but then again as a player of 40K i dont tend to branch out into other model makers unless i see something i want to paint for fun. There is likely many others, but thats all i've seen.

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    I have been thinking of trying some 40K minis since my friend plays and I have painted GW Fantasy in the past. I wish their minis were cheaper though. This weekend I will try to pickup some cheap paint at walmart or michaels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cbl12886 View Post
    I have been thinking of trying some 40K minis since my friend plays and I have painted GW Fantasy in the past. I wish their minis were cheaper though. This weekend I will try to pickup some cheap paint at walmart or michaels.
    I just wanted to warn you to be careful about buying the cheap paint at Walmart and Michaels. Most of the craft paint that they sell is NOT well suited to painting minis. It tends to be too thick, the pigments are very rough, and if you try to thin it down with water it separates. You may have a hard time getting the kind of results that you want with that paint. You may be better served by starting with a small kit from Reaper, GW, or Vallejo. They are more expensive, but you'll probably get much better results.

    I also wanted to recommend that you take a look at the Reaper minis if you like painting fantasy stuff. If you want to send me a message, I've got BOXES of Reaper minis laying around that I will probably never get around to painting. I'd be happy to send you some to try. Welcome back to the hobby, this is a great place to learn. Don't hseitate to ask for help or suggestions.

    Cheers,
    Grumb

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    Wow hey grumb, glad you are still about!! I have to echo what grumb says, quality paint are the way to go. You will probably find yourself getting frustrated if you can't get a quality finish, which is more likely with the non specialist stuff
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    What Grumb and Freak said, the cheap paints are OK for scenery and craft projects, that's why they are called craft paints, you'll just end up getting frustrated disappointed


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    If you decide to paint something a little more sci-fi, I have to recommend the Lt Kara piece from Studio McVey. Painting it right now, and it's wicked fun. Plenty of variety in surfaces and textures that you can really experiment with it.
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    Apparently keV may be doing more marines for them in the same style... Awesome!!
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    I still think ill start off with craft paints so I don't spend so much money to start off. I have a friend that might be giving me some 40K miniatures he is not using so I can practice. Those Studio McVey minis are awesome. I really like Broga Hourigsen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holg View Post
    I still think ill start off with craft paints so I don't spend so much money to start off. I have a friend that might be giving me some 40K miniatures he is not using so I can practice. Those Studio McVey minis are awesome. I really like Broga Hourigsen.
    I suppose it's okay to start off with inexpensive paints on models you don't care too much about. Once you get a chance to use something like Vallejo you'll notice the difference, and appreciating that difference might be a good thing.

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    I have used Vallejo and the Reaper Master paints in the past but I do not remember what is best. What is the best for the price? If I decide to get some paint specifically for miniatures, I do not want to break the bank. The nice miniatures are already expensive enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holg
    I have used Vallejo and the Reaper Master paints in the past but I do not remember what is best. What is the best for the price?
    Can of worms! There are loads of threads on paints here and you'll see there are many differences of opinion on the matter. Honestly, past a certain level it's nearly entirely about familiarity and personal preference, not about good/better/best (except with regard to individual colours that might have something particularly good about them).

    Anyway, a decent matt-finish acrylic paint intended for artists, like the Jo Sonja range, beats any of the common hobby paints many times over in bang for the buck. And in quality terms they're better in nearly every way IMO. But they're not available in familiar 'game colours' and they're thicker, so you have to dilute a lot more than you'd probably be used to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Einion View Post
    Can of worms! There are loads of threads on paints here and you'll see there are many differences of opinion on the matter. Honestly, past a certain level it's nearly entirely about familiarity and personal preference, not about good/better/best (except with regard to individual colours that might have something particularly good about them).

    Anyway, a decent matt-finish acrylic paint intended for artists, like the Jo Sonja range, beats any of the common hobby paints many times over in bang for the buck. And in quality terms they're better in nearly every way IMO. But they're not available in familiar 'game colours' and they're thicker, so you have to dilute a lot more than you'd probably be used to.

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    Are these sold at Michaels? I looked on dick blicks and they are almost the same price as the model paint but includes more. If I can get a set of artist acrylics with their 50% off coupons ill have good paint that is cheaper most likely. What is the best thing to thin these paints?

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    Also, I was going to try these brushes because of their price and I saw some people recommending them on the forum. What sizes would you guys recommend if I was buying 3-5 brushes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holg View Post
    Also, I was going to try these brushes because of their price and I saw some people recommending them on the forum. What sizes would you guys recommend if I was buying 3-5 brushes?
    Tiny
    Tinier
    Stupid Tiny
    Eyelash on a stick
    Airbrush

    But seriously, I wouldn't limit yourself to just 5 brushes. Go to a shop, get a feel for them, compare their size, bristles, and comfort. I don't mind buying paints or adhesives online, but to determine brush quality I prefer to evaluate in person. You may only need 3 to start, or you may end up needing 16 like me.

    Okay, 16 is an exaggeration. I only need 14. The other 2 make me feel better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holg View Post
    Also, I was going to try these brushes because of their price and I saw some people recommending them on the forum. What sizes would you guys recommend if I was buying 3-5 brushes?
    Well they seem a reasonable price, I'd recommend four sizes 2/0, 0, 1, 2 as the ones to go for initially as these sizes are the most common ones used in figure painting. (I'd be tempted to get two size 0 andsize 1's as those are my workhorses).
    I have to add a proviso in that I've not heard of these brushes and tend to stick to my Winsor & Newtons, but they have lasted me a good long while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holg View Post
    Are these sold at Michaels?
    Not sure; haven't seen it in any I've been in but there are so many, don't know if there is a common stock between their branches.

    Although the craft paints - e.g. Americana, Craft Smart, Delta Ceramcoat - are actually not bad and quite usable, other higher-end paints you might like to also keep an eye out for include Matisse Minis, Golden's Matte Fluid Acrylic Colors and Holbein Acryla Gouache.

    Quote Originally Posted by Holg View Post
    I looked on dick blicks and they are almost the same price as the model paint but includes more.
    Lots more - 60ml v what, 12-17ml? And once you thin to around the same consistency you've got maybe 20 times more paint.

    If you'll be ordering from Dick Blick anyway, you might like to try a couple of their Matte Acrylics.

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    What is the best thing to thin these paints?
    Different people like to use different things, just tap water can do fine in many cases (with or without a drop or two of added dishwashing liquid in the water jar).

    But others prefer to use a medium or additive of one kind or another - to slow drying, help blending, smoother brushstrokes, reducing separation, specifically for washes etc. etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Holg View Post
    What sizes would you guys recommend if I was buying 3-5 brushes?
    I would generally suggest having at least two of the size you'll use most (1 maybe) and then a 00 or 000 if you need it for very fine detail and a 2 or 3 for larger areas.


    Quote Originally Posted by IdofEntity View Post
    Tiny
    Tinier
    Stupid Tiny
    Eyelash on a stick
    Airbrush
    FTW:
    very small;
    bigger than you'd expect.
    much bigger than you think you could use.

    Airbrush ain't even on the scale

    Quote Originally Posted by IdofEntity View Post
    ...or you may end up needing 16 like me.
    Why so many, multiple colours on the go at one time?

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    My wife gave me some liquitex titanium white and green as well as another artist black paint so I won't need to buy those colors. What do you think are some good Jo Sonja's colors to get? I plan on buying 8 paints and a 2 and 0 size paint brushes this weekend. What type of dishwashing liquid are you referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holg View Post
    What do you think are some good Jo Sonja's colors to get? I plan on buying 8 paints and a 2 and 0 size paint brushes this weekend.
    Palette choice is tricky since there's a huge amount of personal taste involved. But with such a small one you do want to get key colours that will give a wide mixing range, while giving good opacity as much as possible. So with that in mind I'd recommend:
    Cadmium Yellow Medium (got the Light myself but I think the medium shade is probably more useful)
    Cadmium Scarlet
    Trans Magenta, or Permanent Alizarine if you prefer
    Ultramarine Blue Deep
    Phthalo Green (very strong, use sparingly!)

    You need white and black but you already have those so that's good.

    They're not absolutely necessary but a couple/three earths are useful to have around; Yellow Oxide and Burnt Umber would be the two most useful ones IMO. I also like having an opaque red earth like Red Earth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Holg View Post
    What type of dishwashing liquid are you referring to?
    Whatever you use to wash your dishes! You just add a drop or two to break surface tension (acts as a mild flow improver).

    Einion

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    Isn't it possible to go into a GW store in your area and use their paints? This will at least let you see the difference two different types/qualities of paint

    Quote Originally Posted by Holg View Post
    I still think ill start off with craft paints so I don't spend so much money to start off. I have a friend that might be giving me some 40K miniatures he is not using so I can practice. Those Studio McVey minis are awesome. I really like Broga Hourigsen.

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