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    Sorry if this was asked but the forum wont let me search for the word oil, being a 3 letter word and all. So today I started painting my first canvas and I was wondering if people use oil based paints for freehand or NMM. I know about the texture thing but it seems like in small quantaties it might be an effective way to do certain effects. Has anyone tried this and if so do you have any tips on where this might be used and anything else that comes to mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boogieoompa View Post
    So today I started painting my first canvas and I was wondering if people use oil based paints for freehand or NMM.
    The simple answer is yes.
    The more complex answer is one of those that will involve you practising like crazy, inhaling lots of Turps fumes (until you discover Odourless thinners) and the consumption of a lot of time.
    I've used oils in the past for miniatures (and in fact have done so recently for a bust) however I find that Oils are best for large area smooth blends. That's not to say that some of the more expert (and clever) painters can't use Oils for Freehand details.
    Lets face it a lot of Canvases in Art have some bleeding small details on them.
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    Yandegio uses oils a lot on his minis, have a browse of his Gallery, here's just one

    http://www.coolminiornot.com/119201

    Planet Figure is also a good place to go

    http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/index.php?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boogieoompa
    Sorry if this was asked but the forum wont let me search for the word oil, being a 3 letter word and all.
    Expert tip: you can use Google to search within some forums for words that are too short for the internal search. This can also be useful for when the forum's search is down or working very slowly.

    The code for this is site:urlofforum.com and then the search terms. You can also look for groups of words more easily this way, like "NMM with metallics" so instead of finding all threads that mention NMM and metallics you should more easily find specifically what you're looking for.

    Oil paint and enamels have a long history of use in painting miniatures, they're the granddaddies in the field really (by comparison acrylic/vinyl paints are a recent blow-in!) With freehand they do seem to offer something very useful - the ability to easily tidy up lines with a solvent-dampened brush and even to wipe off and start again if it doesn't go right.

    The main issue practically I think isn't the drying time* but with coverage, so careful selection of pigments can be a good idea - some artists' paints are extremely transparent, and even with their very high pigmentation (much higher than with water-borne paint) they sometimes won't cover like you'd want them to.

    *This can be shortened with heating, under a lamp or in a drying box or even a crockpot for metal figures. Another drying box here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Einion View Post
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    Golden has a line of paints called Open that I've been playing with lately and really like them. They are an acrylic that's slow drying thus no fumes and yet they have that same quality of oils like you're painting with butter.

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    I used oils for painting pictures before I started painting minis, my big beef was the drying time. Einion is right you can shorten this, but the energy expended in a heat box or putting it under a lamp was simply not worth it, to me. Then again I paint units and armies, and not really single minis. If I were to try a golden demon, i might use oils and wait.

    Einion is right, artists paints often have very few matting agents in the binder, and the pure pigment can be very very transparent, especially if you are using non-mineral paints (like pthalo's or Quinaquidrones). If you are used to GW paint, then artists colors will take some adjusting. of course you can paint with techniques were the transparency is desireable....
    I use golden acrylics, but I have not tried the golden Open paints...I'd be curious to see a review.

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    I have started using oils a lot for blacklining, so pretty much black or burnt umber. I find the capillary action fantastic for flowing paint along lines and easy to clean up if I over do a line. Drying time is not an issue since it is the last thing I do.

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    I've been playing with W&N's line of water based oils for larger minis (54mm & 72mm). Playing with skintones mostly.
    Wonderful in that you can shade and blend and then shade and blend some more. Tommorrow or even the next day.

    But you cannot touch it until you've put some dulcoat on it.
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