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    Quote Originally Posted by Einion View Post
    Don't think there's any need to define something as basic as paint or painting; we're not writing a dictionary, just assembling a glossary of terms that might not be defined everywhere as we use them in the hobby.
    I thought of that, but decided to include this one as a sort of a joke, but also to get the term straight, as it may be used quite a lot later on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Einion View Post
    (on shades) I think of this really only as a verb; I don't really call darker mixes shades and ditto with others. Also, it has a specific definition in painting circles.
    I'm looking for a description of both the technique and the effect, any suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einion View Post
    Glaze medium changes consistency in what way?
    Yeah...
    *scratches head*
    as a person with english as a second language, i've never been able to pin that down...

    Quote Originally Posted by Einion View Post
    Thinner is not a medium, it's a diluent.
    Technically retarder is an additive, not a medium.
    I realised that, but decided to add these to the medium list.
    not much sense making am almost identical entry just to specify that title.
    the usage is essentially the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Einion View Post
    Glazing is not painting with a wash. It may be painting with paint diluted to the same level of a wash but the distinction between the two is v. important.
    Illuminate us with your wisdom, oh Great One.
    I've been painting for 10 years, yet the exact distinction between the to continues to elude me....
    Someone else??

    Quote Originally Posted by Einion View Post
    More detail needed here (run by GW, tight rules, first-past-the-post awards, judging controversy etc.)
    I am very (VERY) ashamed to say that i've never attended a GD....
    So I'm affraid someone alse will have to write this entry..

    I've also added some more empty entries to be filled...

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    Wash: paint diluted with appropriate thinner, and applied to model, allowing the diluted paint to run into and pool in the recesses of the model.

    Glaze: Paint diluted with appropriate thinner, and applied to model and/or area of model, in a thin uniform layer thereby tinting the surface.

    Layering: different shades of Paint(diluted or not) applied in successive gradation to achieve highlighting or shading on an area or whole figure.

    Shade: A darker tone of a base colour

    Highlight: A brighter tone of a base colour

    Blending: The act of creating a smooth gradation between different colours.

    Feathering(this one may cause controversy): applying a layer of paint, then "feathering" out the edge by pulling the pigment thinner creating a smooth gradation.

    wetblending(you've already got this).

    This is what i've always thought these techniques were. Maybe people agree, maybe they don't? Maybe it helps

    Cheers, Gary.

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    thanks gary, This i'll certainly help.

    I'll edit the list again tomorrow (i'm tired now :P)

    and the controversial techniques and terms are what i'm looking for, as Einion said, we can all agree on what "painting" is, but such things as Feathering would benefit from a more specific description.
    or maybe even an agreement from the mayority on what this technique is exactly... (subtle variation being ignored ofcourse)

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    dare I add Underpainting to this list?

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    Pinning: Inserting a metal pin in a joint on a mini to add strength. The fine art comes in drilling one side of the joint in a mini, then drilling a matching hole on the other part of the joint. Pins range from straight pins and staples to small brass rods for larger joints. Small drill bits and small hand drills are generally the tools used to drill these tools. See Pin Drill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mourner View Post
    I thought of that, but decided to include this one as a sort of a joke, but also to get the term straight, as it may be used quite a lot later on.
    I'd have thought that it's so basic that it doesn't need to be defined here. In case you haven't thought of this technically it means that in every entry that mentions the word paint it would have to be underlined, which could make it irritating to read....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mourner View Post
    (on shades) I think of this really only as a verb; I don't really call darker mixes shades and ditto with others. Also, it has a specific definition in painting circles.
    I'm looking for a description of both the technique and the effect, any suggestions?
    I'd sidestep it:

    Shading
    The painted simulation of light and shade on a miniature. Sometimes refers to just the shadows, which are usually added over the basecoat. Can be done by glazing or with a wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mourner View Post
    Glaze medium changes consistency in what way?
    Yeah...
    *scratches head*
    as a person with english as a second language, i've never been able to pin that down...
    Glaze medium increases transparency but technically so do almost all mediums of course.

    Glaze medium increases transparency and may improve flow and increase open time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mourner View Post
    I realised that, but decided to add these to the medium list.
    not much sense making am almost identical entry just to specify that title.
    the usage is essentially the same.
    Not really, the distinction is important (hence why it's made by some Golden and Liquitex for example).

    Mediums include at least some binder, some are all binder, so you're extending or bulking out the paint but adding in additional binder, and you can use as much as you want without any compromise in film-forming.

    But retarder or flow release on the other hand have no binder in them and you have to be very careful not to add in too much because not only can they compromise the formation of a cohesive paint film they can actually prevent the paint from drying properly at all. So:

    Additive
    Something that modifies the properties of a paint but without adding binder, e.g. flow release, Tamiya Flat Base (X-21), retarder. See also medium.

    Binder
    The adhesive component in paint. In hobby colours this is usually a vinyl or acrylic polymer, or a combination of the two. In oil paints it is typically linseed oil.

    Diluent
    Anything that acts to dilute paint, e.g. water, paint thinner.

    Flow release
    An additive to reduce surface tension and improve flow. Can be useful when doing freehand as well as blending or glazing.

    Retarder
    An additive that increases open time, slows drying. A medium can have a retarding action, e.g. glazing medium.

    Thinner
    See diluent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mourner View Post
    Glazing is not painting with a wash. It may be painting with paint diluted to the same level of a wash but the distinction between the two is v. important.
    Illuminate us with your wisdom, oh Great One.
    I've been painting for 10 years, yet the exact distinction between the to continues to elude me....
    Oi! The distinction has been made clear a few times here over the years:
    http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/...G-like-filters
    http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/...Paint-Coverage
    http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/...-use-of-washes
    http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/...problem-within.

    Glaze
    Very dilute paint applied sparingly to the surface, with a damp brush. Sometimes referred to as a filter. Can be used to tint a surface or as part of layering to achieve smooth colour transitions.

    Wash
    Very dilute paint applied generously to the surface, where it settles into recesses. Used as a simple method of shading.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mourner View Post
    I am very (VERY) ashamed to say that i've never attended a GD....
    I wouldn't be. They're overpriced, too crowded to be comfortable but above all badly judged!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mourner View Post
    I've also added some more empty entries to be filled...
    Er, where did all the coding go?!

    Einion
    Last edited by Einion; 12-16-2010 at 10:23 AM.

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    Other entries:

    Airbrush
    Brush (I'm not kidding, if you're going to define paint...)
    Freehand
    Future
    Gradient
    Highlighting
    Lining
    Klear
    Layering
    Magic Wash
    OSL
    Preshading
    Scumbling
    SENMM
    Tint (both meanings)
    Zenithal Highlighting

    If this is intended to cover more than just painting techniques then we should also include basic colour terminology - hue, value, chroma, maybe a couple of others including saturation. Since we mention flash and mould lines, pouring blocks for resin kits.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jbickley00 View Post
    dare I add Underpainting to this list?
    Yep, absolutely. Either listed separately or under basecote as another term for it. And thanks, you just made me think of another thing to add to my list.

    Einion

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    earth inverting horticultural implement (spade).
    i feel your list may become something of a great wall of china long and difficult to maintain, (people are always coming up with new stuff).

    speaking of which "routing" new technique for the sculpting into pleasing forms of set epoxy putty's and the like.

    einions yer man for mind boggling attention to detail and listing it in multi quotes, not an insult or meant to be offensive in anyway einion, credit where its due.
    Last edited by cassar; 12-16-2010 at 01:14 PM.
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    noun ( fem. demigoddess |ˈdemēˌgädis| )
    a being with partial or lesser divine status, such as a minor deity, the offspring of a god and a mortal, or a mortal raised to divine rank.
    • a person who is greatly admired or feared.
    ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: translating Latin semideus .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassar View Post
    i feel your list may become something of a great wall of china long and difficult to maintain, (people are always coming up with new stuff).
    I realised this pitfall myself.
    My intention was to create a comprehensive list, that's usable for both starters and experts.

    If we can agree on an entry, that should last quite a while...

    I know people are allways coming up with new stuff, but I think we can come up with a decent enough list.

    any interesting new techniques can allways be added later on.

    @Einion
    first of all, thanks for the input,

    I'll edit the list with all the suggestions (and more) tonight.

    But I might need some help with the following entries:

    Future

    Gradient
    Lining
    Klear
    Layering
    Magic Wash
    Preshading
    Scumbling
    Tint (both meanings)
    Underpainting

    some of the terms are unfamiliar to me, others are beyond my grasp of descriptionary english.
    (don't get me wrong, my english is top notch, but describing these kinds of specialised terms... )

    The layout of the list got messed up by Word, I was too tired to change it back last night, i'll sort that out tonight.


    till tonight,
    Mourner

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    klear =floor polish used to create a gloss finish simular to gloss varnish

    hope this helps or adds constructively

    urban dictionary might come in helpful, scratch that its not
    Last edited by cassar; 12-16-2010 at 03:09 PM.
    LAAARRFF, I SPLIT MY SIDES!!

    cassar [demigod] |ˈdemēˌgäd|
    noun ( fem. demigoddess |ˈdemēˌgädis| )
    a being with partial or lesser divine status, such as a minor deity, the offspring of a god and a mortal, or a mortal raised to divine rank.
    • a person who is greatly admired or feared.
    ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: translating Latin semideus .

    on a serious note, i do commissions, no really i do, ask and ye shall receive


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    Mourner, I can tell already you're going to run into a problem with the maximum character count for a post as this grows. It's set at 10,000 characters for the forums and I'm already at 5,500 without including some of the definitions you already tackled at the beginning.

    So if you want to post this yourself as a sticky you'll have to begin a new thread where you post first and second (and maybe third too, in case this gets really long in future... it's theoretically possible it could grow to more than 20,000 characters).

    Anyone know if there's a character limit for articles and if so what it is?

    Einion

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    I see what you're getting at, the latest list is 5,849 Characters, and 38 enties long but I think it's about 90% complete.
    there's still 10- 15 entries that might need tweaking or filling, but that should'nt be more than a couple thousand words (absolute worst case)

    I've always figured to use this thread to build the list, get the layout right and have it discussed so we get a list that's worth something.
    and then either post a new thread with the complete, finished list if it's worth a sticky.
    Or make it into an article.
    I might even put it on wiki for easy editing.

    and I've changed the list :P

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    Here's where I got to (7,100+ characters - to give an idea of the size problem, the character count increased by ~1,100 just with last-minute additions and tweaks):

    Additive
    Something that modifies the properties of a paint but without adding binder, e.g. flow improver, Tamiya Flat Base (X-21), retarder. See also medium.

    Airbrush
    ? ? ? ?

    Binder
    The adhesive component in paint. In hobby colours this is usually a vinyl or acrylic polymer, or a combination of the two, in oil paints it is typically linseed oil. See also medium.

    Brush
    ? ? ? ?

    Catchlight
    Another term for specular highlight.

    Chalky paint
    ? ? ? ? Really don't know the best way to define this so it's clear!

    Compressor
    ? ? ? ?

    Diluent
    Anything that acts to dilute paint, e.g. water, paint thinner, magic wash.

    Feathering
    ? ? ? ?
    Brushing out the edge of a layer of paint, e.g. to prevent a tide mark.
    ? ? ? ?

    Filter
    See glaze.

    Flow improver/flow release
    An additive to reduce surface tension and improve flow. Can be useful when doing freehand as well as blending or glazing.

    Freehand
    In miniature painting, any patterns or decoration that are painted by hand.

    Future
    An SC Johnson product originally intended for use on floors. Used in miniature painting as a gloss varnish, to prepare a painted surface for decals and as the main ingredient in magic wash. See also Klear. Renamed in 2007 and currently called Pledge with Future Shine.

    Glaze
    Very dilute paint applied sparingly to the painted surface, with a damp brush. Sometimes referred to as a filter. Paint can be diluted with water, medium or a homemade mixture such as magic wash.

    Can be used to tint or as part of layering to achieve smooth colour transitions.

    Glazing
    Using a glaze.

    Gradient
    A smooth transition from one colour to the next. Usually done by layering but also by wet-blending and airbrushing.

    Hairspray technique
    A weathering method usually used to realistically recreate flaking paint on vehicles. Hairspray is applied on top of a base colour and then overpainted with a contrasting colour (generally sprayed on, not applied by brush), then the surface is dampened and worked over with a brush or other tools. See also salt weathering and masking.

    Highlighting
    Applying paint of a lighter colour over the basecoat to simulate the effect of light. Can be done by layering or drybrushing. See also prehighlighting, shading, zenithal spraying.

    Klear
    Another name for Future in the UK. Currently sold as Pledge Multi-Surface Wax.

    Layering
    A painting technique where you apply many thin layers of paint, usually heavily diluted. Generally used to achieve smooth colour transitions when highlighting and shading.

    Lining
    ? ? ? ?
    A painting technique where dark lines (often black) are used to outline areas on a miniature.
    ? ? ? ?

    Magic wash
    A homemade mixture of Future and various other ingredients used to dilute paint for a wash, to help it settle into recesses and to prevent tide marks. Can also be used as a painting medium.

    Mask
    A removable protective layer that shields any part of a model from the next layer or layers of paint. When the mask is removed it reveals the colour (or the unpainted surface) underneath. Mainly used when airbrushing, to prevent overspray.

    Masking
    Using a mask.

    Midtone
    The middle colour value between the highlights and shadows. Often the same colour as the basecoat.

    Mini
    ? ? ? ?
    Short for miniature, but specifically used to describe small-scale miniatures (below 1/35th scale).
    ? ? ? ?

    NMM
    Non-metallic metals. A painted simulation of a metal surface. See also metallic paint, SENMM.

    Open time
    The workable period of a paint before it dries. See also retarder.

    OSL
    Object-source lighting. A painted simulation of light and shade on the surface of a model from a specific lightsource, e.g. a torch, campfire, muzzle blast or explosion. See also zenithal shading.

    Overpainting
    Painting on top of an existing area of paintwork. See also stripping.

    Overspray
    When airbrushing or applying paint from a spraycan, unwanted colour that falls outside of where it's wanted. Usually prevented by masking.

    Paintjob
    The completed paintwork on a model.

    Preshading
    A painting technique, usually used when airbrushing, where recesses are painted a dark colour before the basecoat is applied. Used instead of or in addition to a wash, e.g. for recessed panel lines on vehicles.

    Prehighlighting
    A lighter colour, usually white, applied over the primer to establish the basic shading. Can be done with an airbrush or with paint or primer from a spraycan.

    Repaint
    Painting over an existing paintjob, usually commercial pre-painted models. See also overpainting.

    Retarder
    An additive that increases open time (slows drying). A medium can have a retarding action, e.g. glazing medium.

    Scumbling
    A little like drybrushing but using a damper brush, with a scrubbing action rather than a light flicking motion. Usually done with lighter paint over darker paint. Can be used to simulate texture or on a flat or featureless surface to help it look less boring or uninteresting, by creating irregular colour variations. See also stippling.

    SENMM
    Sky-earth non-metallic metals. A painted simulation of a polished metal surface where there are clear reflections of the sky and ground, e.g. as you would see on a chrome bumper. See also metallic paint, NMM.

    Shading
    The simulation of light and shade in painting. Sometimes refers to just the painted shadows, which are usually added over the basecoat. Can be done by layering or with a wash. See also highlighting, zenithal spraying.

    Specular highlight
    The bright, sharp-edged, highlight on a reflective surface. In miniature painting most often used on gemstones and when metals are done using NMM or SENMM. Also called a specular or catchlight.

    Sponging
    A painting technique using small pieces of sponge or foam to create random patterns. Often used to simulate chipped paint.

    Stippling
    A painting technique where the brush is used in a jabbing motion, usually using a stiffer brush or one with the bristles cut down. Can be used to simulate texture or on a flat or featureless surface to help it look less boring or uninteresting, by creating irregular colour variations. See also scumbling.

    Stripping
    Removing paint from the surface of a model, e.g. using paint stripper, oven cleaner, acetone, Dettol. Often used as a last resort when a paintjob doesn't work as intended instead of overpainting.

    Thinner/thinners
    See diluent.

    Tide mark
    An unwanted line formed by paint drying at the edge of a coat of paint, generally seen with washes but sometime with glazes. See also magic wash.

    Tint
    To slightly colour an area by glazing with a thin, transparent coat of another colour.

    Also, any mixture of white with another paint (although generally used to describe colours where the addition of white is noticeable, as in pastel shades).

    Wash
    Very dilute paint applied generously to the surface, where it settles into sculpted detail. Used as a simple method of shading.

    Zenithal shading
    A shading technique that simulates lighting from a specific direction (usually from directly overhead) rather than a generic light from above as more usually used in miniature painting. See also OSL, zenithal spraying.

    Zenithal spraying
    An airbrushing technique, usually where lighter colour is sprayed from above and darker colour from below over the basecoat, to shade and highlight a miniature. Can be used by itself or supplemented with brush-painted refinements. Usually combined with some form of masking. See also zenithal shading.

    Einion

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    Great Idea.

    Future
    This is the same a klear and is simply the U.S. name for the exact same product

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    Preshading: Priming in black, then spraying white paint from the desired point of lighting to realize the shadows prior to painting.
    Underpainting: A technique also known as staining in some circles. Prime black, then a medium/heavy white dry bursh. Then paint with paints thinned to the consistency of milk so that the preshading of the basecoats shows through the paint. When called staining, i have seen folks use oils over this basecoat method and rub them on. This is typically used on smaller minis for speed purposes.
    Last edited by mckeansa; 07-04-2011 at 09:16 PM.

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    Preshading (and prehighlighting) are also already defined above.

    Your second definition is really more about the staining, done over preshading/prehighlighting (which are forms of underpainting)

    Einion

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