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  1. #161

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    Quote Originally Posted by moetle View Post
    I think your blending is going in the right direction. Have tried adding drying retarder? I have had good results from reapers drying retarder. i also have a big bottle of liquitex drying retarder but i haven't tried it yet.

    The reds looks really nice. The only thing i didn't like about the yellows were on the outside of his cuffs. I think you have too much dark in the middle. Are those army painter flowers and grass i see on that base?

    Moe
    I use a "water" mix from the tutorials called "Danny's Magic Wash" that contains 350 ml water, 100 ml flow aid, 50 ml retarder, and a drop of detergent. This is about the recommended retarder dilution for the winsor and newton retarder, but I think I will add a little more when I make a new batch. After reading up on two brush blending on the McVey forums it sounds like it is better to have a little thicker paint for two brush blending, so it does not dry out before getting the wet blending brush to it. I went over the back of the cloak with real thin black ink and then re-highlighted. I think the blend is smoother now, but will have see under "macro lens". Haha

    I intentionally made the inside of the wizards sleeves dark as they were modeled fairly shallow and was hoping to make them look deeper...if I were starting him from scratch I'd probably hollow out the sleeves, but heh I am lazy on that guy I was real happy with the reds and felt the yellows were meh. I also do not understand what the embosed "fox" symbol is for on the front of the robes, so kept it yellow as well. Yeah, the grass and flowers are Army Painter on the base. The stone is from the KruleBear driveway and i used scenics fine flock in the other areas. I wanted to try the flowers out in particular to see how they look as they will be going on the ogre base now as well. So far I am really happy with the Army painter grasses.

    I am going to try to finish the vampire this week, (but work may interfer) then I am going to play with modeling. First the ogre base, then clean up mold line on Reapers Gauth dragon. I epoxied the sucker together several years ago and the wings and upper jaws are not well fit. Since the epoxy seemed to work too good, I think I can fix the seems with putty the easiest (fingers crossed) Then I will try using my airbrush to paint the beast.
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  2. #162

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    Well whatever technique your doing i can see serious improvement from the start of the thread to here. If your ever in the area let me know and we can share some paint tips or something.

    Moe
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  3. #163

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    Quote Originally Posted by moetle View Post
    Well whatever technique your doing i can see serious improvement from the start of the thread to here. If your ever in the area let me know and we can share some paint tips or something.

    Moe
    I'll have to take you up on that. How far north are you? My brother in law is on the north side of Chicago and we try to get up there a couple times a year.

    Anyways, some progress on the vampire but these pictures are absolute rubbish. I must have messed up something on the camera as the front view is nowhere near actual. Colors on the back are close (hmmm maybe the white shirt and light skin are throwing the camera off). Anyways, I'm considering the cloak, shirt, and the skin essentially done (there is a spot by the bottom shirt button I need to clean up). I may tweek the hair some more, but may leave it. I'm debating making the shirt buttons, belt buckle, and point of the staff silver rather than leaving them dark. Thoughts?

    I'll work on the red vest & pants next and then finish up the base. Probably should get some pink wash on the eyes as well. I'll also try to get better pictures this weekend.

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  4. #164

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    Tryst is near Chicago, I'm about one hour straight east of you if i recall. I had thought about seeing if you guys wanted to get together for games day or Adepticon. I think there was a group that did that last year and it sounded like fun.

    Anyways the Vamp is coming along well

    Moe
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    A blizzard does commeth, that can only mean that KruleBear completed another mini! After painting the vampire's eyes about 20 times, I had enough and decided he was destined to be the cross eyed vampire with the lazy eye. It took all my willpower to not put any green grass on the base and I'm happy with how it turned out. I started painting the rock gray and decided it was boring. Heck the rocks and stones where I grew up were all brown anyways. I like the way the white shirt, both styles of black on the cloak, and the base turned out. I also think I have the camera adjusted enough to show the shirt, but it caused the other colors to come out darker. Anyways C&C is appreciated.

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    Now I am going to party for completing 4 mini's in a year. I'll have to think of a New Year's resolution...hmmmm....maybe 2 mini's per quarter. Then I can support more Kickstarters!

    @Moetle--Adepticon sounds like a good idea. That would be a good birthday present for myself.

    Now I need to get back to the base for the Ogre. I have armatures formed for roots. We'll see how the painting goes the next three weeks---the wife has been put on bed rest until the baby comes, so I've been watching a lot of movies with her.

    Anyways, cheers and stay warm as the blizzard goes through the midwest!

  6. #166

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    Since it is a vampire you could have applied the old trick of full white eyes.

    As for the photography, if you set the camera light measurement point in the white clothes, the other colors sure will come out darker, but the different white tones are going to look better. I would also suggest trying a black/darker background for this particular figure.

    Anyway, good job. You're really improving with every miniature you paint.

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    I like it. The eyes might be crossed but i think it gives it some good character, like he is about to sneeze, hence he is grabbing his cloak to cover his mouth. Sorry bout the wife, how long before baby KB is due?

    Moe
    "I was too distracted by the ladies to be scared of your bear. That is the second weirdest sentence I have ever typed on this site o_O"- Zab

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  8. #168

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    Quote Originally Posted by atgill View Post
    Since it is a vampire you could have applied the old trick of full white eyes.

    As for the photography, if you set the camera light measurement point in the white clothes, the other colors sure will come out darker, but the different white tones are going to look better. I would also suggest trying a black/darker background for this particular figure.

    Anyway, good job. You're really improving with every miniature you paint.
    Thanks. It is funny you mention the white eyes. As I was cussing GIMP to make the collage I was thinking the same thing. The funny thing is I have started one of my Relics Nuem Specialis Pueri and have the eyes starting to look pretty good. Then I looked at the fluff and the official paint job and she is supposed to have glowing eyes. Leave it to me to be a day late and a dollar short. I will have to give a darker background a try again when I have lighter colored mini's.

    Quote Originally Posted by moetle View Post
    I like it. The eyes might be crossed but i think it gives it some good character, like he is about to sneeze, hence he is grabbing his cloak to cover his mouth. Sorry bout the wife, how long before baby KB is due?

    Moe
    I like your explanation more than mine. I am taking Edison's philosophy...I have learned twenty more ways not to paint eyes

    Good question on the cub. Originally Jan 24, but they said no later than the 17th. And it was looking like this past Monday for a few hours...beginning to think Doctors are actually as clueless as the rest of us professionals.

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    I like him to, lots of character. You made me laugh about his eyes (been there, done that!)
    Nice tidy base also
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    Well, vampires aren't perfect, you know...
    You've getting better and better by each mini you paint. You can pat yourself on the back

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    Thanks 10Ball and Alexandra.

    On to new things. Finally taking some paint to my Indiegogo (the start of my crowdsourcing addiction ) Relics minis. This is the Nuem Specialis Pueri. I had painted the eyes a few weeks ago and they were pretty good (even though there are a couple of defects in the cast of the eye)...then I looked at the fluff and decided they needed to be glowing green. So I painted them titanium white and washed some emerald green on to them. It look like the right direction, but not really getting the "right" glow. Suggestions for this appreciated. I'm also not sure if this will be my first second attempt at OSL from the eyes...hmmmm.

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    Anyways, based the skin with coal black, added layers of prism violet / gene steeler purple, a top layer of silver grey / gene steeler purple, and then hit the high points with basic skin tone (I started getting sloppy at the last highlight). I'm happy with it so far, but need to go back and do some blending. Based on the fluff the skin probably should be lighter, as the Nuem spend their time out of the sun. But, I like the way it turned out.

    So far I've just base coated the cloak with German Dark Green. Will probably shade the inside darker and work up to some brighter green highlights. The trim and chaines will be either brass or copper (the bulk of the rest of the Nuem are wired into enclosed armour reminiscent of a cross between original GW dreadnaughts and Steampunk clock work automaton's...So they will have a lot of brass and copper bits as well (damn, more minis to paint ). So far this one is coming along pretty quick for me, so maybe there is hope.

    Any thoughts for blends on the skin, fixes for the eyes, or other bright ideas ?

    BTW...these will be going on some simple resin clockwork bases I bought.

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    The way to go is to build a lighter colour toward the centre of the eye and having a bit of the darker colour to show in the skin around the eye. Of couse, this depends a lot on the size of the mini and the size of your brushes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandra View Post
    The way to go is to build a lighter colour toward the centre of the eye and having a bit of the darker colour to show in the skin around the eye. Of couse, this depends a lot on the size of the mini and the size of your brushes...
    That makes sense. I kind of tried that by washing the green over white and hoping it would pool to the outside. Besides my limited painting ability, there is a lack of smoothness to the eyeball...i.e. Multiple high points. Fortunately these guse have big eyes for 28mm, so I will try to build up lighter in the middle. Thanks for the idea.

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    Looks neat. I like what you're doing with the skin.

    As for the OSL, I'm new to it but a good tip I heard was to remember that the lit area has to be lighter than the surroundings. The glowing eyes are giving the surrounding area more light. Because the skin is close to white there you're going to want a very light green. I'd also try to do a transition region as the light falls off. Maybe water down the green more and see if you can smooth it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey03 View Post
    Looks neat. I like what you're doing with the skin.

    As for the OSL, I'm new to it but a good tip I heard was to remember that the lit area has to be lighter than the surroundings. The glowing eyes are giving the surrounding area more light. Because the skin is close to white there you're going to want a very light green. I'd also try to do a transition region as the light falls off. Maybe water down the green more and see if you can smooth it out.
    I have used flow improver and acrylic medium to thin it. I am thinking I may need to use some thicker paint on the eyeball to smooth it out...that ought to be entertaining I also need to lighten the color a bit. As for the skin, it is just a touch darker irl with the contrasts looking even smoother...and I am really liking it

    Quote Originally Posted by atgill View Post
    Here!

    From step 9 onwards
    Thanks Atgill. I feel really stupid, as I read this tutorial several months ago when I messed up my first OSL attempt with blue on my Warjack. Now I just need to get some additional green colors mixed up! I think I will keep it subtle as done in the tutorial and just highlight out onto the face ( yes, I am a chicken)

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    Some more work on the Specialis Pueri's Cloak. (The wife said she like it better with just the dark German green basecoat ). I don't think I'll add any more highlights as I think it would take away from the darkness of the character.


    Will work on the metals/trim and hopefully the eyes tomorrow. Something must be wrong as this one is being a joy to paint.
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    I really like this mini! good job already, i like the extreme highlights on her skin but I would glaze it with purple to smooth the transitions and highlight it again because it will dull the highlights down a bit.
    Keep it up!

    Cileon

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    @Cileon-I agree. I've been debating glazing with my purple ink, but I tend to get that too dark.

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    If you are a genuine member please accept my apology ..but for flips sake can one of the c'mon guys get rid of this Vietnamese spam it is most annoying

    Any way your doing a great job here krule bear as has been said your painting skills are coming along nicely
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