The Imperial Painters 'Getting Ready for Golden Demon 2013' WIP Thread

[The Imperial Painter]

Hi Guys,

I created a Working up to GD thread in the Painting & Conversions section of the forums but I realised that I should try a WIP thread to help me improve on a model to model basis.

So I decided to turn to the wise old CMON'ers to be my weapon of choice. I want you to tell me exactly how to paint this guy and I will try to follow your instructions.

So this guy is Asterion Moloc, Chapter Master of the Minotaurs from Forge world http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuf...MINOTAURS.html

He is prepped and I want to paint his armour in a dark red. The primers I have are Army painter Pure red, white and black. So start giving me ideas (unfortunately I only have the old GW paints. Can't spare any money to buy some other's).

Tom

[TrystanGST]

Dark red? Prime black. What are the Minotaur chapter colors?

[war0827]

Minotaur chapter color is like a bronze color.

I would prefer to work off of white primer. I guess it could be done with black or red primer, but I'm thinking that the white primer will help bounce the light back outwards and create brighter colors whereas the black primer will soak in the light and create a darker model (correct me if I'm wrong). Not too sure about the red primer, but I would also look into grey primer as well. You would get both advantages of white and black primer. I paint models using both primers, but for golden demon I use white, tabletop gaming I use black or grey. But don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are people who win using black primer also. It's just how I paint, that's all.

[TrystanGST]

Krell and Imotekh were both done with black primer. You can still get bright colors, it just takes a little more effort. I prefer black because it helps avoid the dreaded "white in the cracks" syndrome. Personal preference, of course.

[The Imperial Painter]

Dark red? Prime black. What are the Minotaur chapter colors?

I'm not following the codex colours so I'm going for dark red.

Minotaur chapter color is like a bronze color.

I would prefer to work off of white primer. I guess it could be done with black or red primer, but I'm thinking that the white primer will help bounce the light back outwards and create brighter colors whereas the black primer will soak in the light and create a darker model (correct me if I'm wrong). Not too sure about the red primer, but I would also look into grey primer as well. You would get both advantages of white and black primer. I paint models using both primers, but for golden demon I use white, tabletop gaming I use black or grey. But don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are people who win using black primer also. It's just how I paint, that's all.

With this model I'd quite like a dark feel to it so I think I'll prime black

Krell and Imotekh were both done with black primer. You can still get bright colors, it just takes a little more effort. I prefer black because it helps avoid the dreaded "white in the cracks" syndrome. Personal preference, of course.

Totally agree. Do you think I should try zenithal highlighting by spraying white from above and use glazes to get the colour and then use edge highlighting?

[TrystanGST]

I've personally never tried the spray highlighting technique. I suppose it's worth a shot, although I would try it on a different mini first to see if you can get it to work for you.

[VeristicalBlaze]

I think zenithal lighting and directional lighting techniques created by spraying work better on minis with not much metal parts. Doesn't matter if you paint it NMM or TMM. In my opinion it works better on figures with skin or cloth and only small metallic details. So these two from Forgeworld aren't the best to try it on

[crazyboyae1]

My dude, just do whatever excites you. Try it out. If you mess up and you're not happy with it then start a new mini.
You'll get better by continuing to experiment with techniques and practicing them. So far you've mastered nothing, but you keep showing progress.
Also take your time and paint each model better than the last. Try to make each aspect of every new model "the best thing ever painted"
It will never be, but that will push your progress.

On the space wolf model; the claw was well blended. You didn't paint the rest of the model to that level. Spend 100 hours painting your next model. You'll learn a lot. Demon is hard man, push to paint the best you can, but don't ever expect to win. It's not a math test, it's more subjective than that, so you'll never know if you're gonna win or not.