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    Default New painting projects - Thank you Santa.

    OK, I've managed to add to my "to paint" list thanks to the jolly fat man.

    I'm in the middle of Puppet Wars Unstitched (Malfaux/Wyrd). Painting those little buggers had bee fun and I'm only about a third through the box.

    Then my last trip to the FLGS and I had a LARGE box set aside - the new Ogre box set that I ordered last summer - just in time to be a present to myself under the tree. I know there is not much painting involved (preprinted minis) but I still have some of the old Ogre lead units that need painting and the scale is just right....

    So what did the Jolly Ole Elf bring you?
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    I live in sunny England, due to this I haven't really been able to use the airbrush I bought myself over the summer as the weather did not permit it.

    Luckily and very nice of him to do so, Santa when collaborating with my mum and dad, decided to get me one of these bad boys!

    http://www.benchvent.com/hobby/bv300...xtraction-unit

    It's amazing, ill now be able to spray in doors and actually get to use my airbrush. Best thing about it is that it's such a good spec, it eliminates the need for a mask too
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    Nice . Most of my bits were non miniature/painting related. Loads of books and (unusually for me) DVDs. I did get the GW Ork freebooters pirate mini from my girlfriend so it wasn't entirely empty. The UK weather is indeed awful today so currently painting the fiddly bits on a unit of Blood Claws. I'm installing a pc for my girlfriend later on so will likely get some airbrushing done whilst that's downloading updates.

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    My lovely wife bought me all Andrea paint sets, she thought the colours would look good. Funnily enough she asked nto 2 months ago why I need so many paints!! Also, through lovely parents I have got a couple of huge Mierce monsters coming my way. That and a new badger airbrush should keep me busy for the next few months. Oh, and the every growing pile of resin that dominates my painting desk.
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    I got me an airbrush compressor this xmas to, mainly for basecoating models, general modeling projects and for my copic markers. Have a question....do you need one of those extraction booths really for water based paint airbrushing? I thought they were for solvent based paint work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfacedboy uk1 View Post
    I got me an airbrush compressor this xmas to, mainly for basecoating models, general modeling projects and for my copic markers. Have a question....do you need one of those extraction booths really for water based paint airbrushing? I thought they were for solvent based paint work.

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    The answer is "It depends".
    If you do much airbrushing in a bedroom studio, you'll soon see the fog of atomized paint on everything. Wear a dust mask as a minimum. I prefer a cartridge type mask with the silicone face piece. Much better fit than the disposable masks. (I have been known to knock out a few basecoats without any mask - but that is a small project - and you are apt to have colored boogers in the morning.)
    I've made extractors with box fans in the window and painting on a table in front of it. That will pull the overspray out. At one time I had a large easle made with pegboard front that had a box fan pulling the overspray through the pegboard. Worked well. You can make something similar with a piece of pegboard, a air conditioner filter stacked on a box fan on a frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfacedboy uk1 View Post
    I got me an airbrush compressor this xmas to, mainly for basecoating models, general modeling projects and for my copic markers. Have a question....do you need one of those extraction booths really for water based paint airbrushing? I thought they were for solvent based paint work.

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    The reason I got the extraction unit is because it means I can spray in-doors now and it completely eliminates the need for any type of mask based respirator. The guys at BenchVent really know their stuff when it comes to health safety and extraction! Lot's of people think that you don't need a mask if the paint is water based acrylic, but this is far from true. When you use an air brush you are atomizing the paint, no matter that its water based you would still (without a mask or extraction unit) be breathing in atomized chemicals which are not good for your health and can cause all sorts of nasties...

    If your spraying in-doors then I couldn't recommend a proper extraction unit highly enough, if your spraying out-doors in a well vhentilated area then you could get by with just using a mask based respirator. Good extraction units aren't huge, you can see the one i got for Xmas on my blog, I set it up last night: www.miniature-studio.com



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    Okay, thanks guys! Luckily I havent started using mine yet. I have only used Copic Marker airbrush (alcohol based ink) indoors. The compressor is pretty noisy so I think I may well be thrown outside to do airbrush work of any magnitude. I think I will investigate further before I do vast amounts of indoor work. My art desk bedroom setup is in front of a window handily.


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    Put the compressor in the garage or outside and run an air hose to your paint station. Put a second regulator at your paint station then you don't have to go out and adjust the regulator at the compressor each time.
    Set the compressor at around 20 psi (unless you're doing shirts), then you can regulate down at your paint station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by airhead View Post
    Put the compressor in the garage or outside and run an air hose to your paint station. Put a second regulator at your paint station then you don't have to go out and adjust the regulator at the compressor each time.
    Set the compressor at around 20 psi (unless you're doing shirts), then you can regulate down at your paint station.
    I dont think they make hoses that long do they lol? I have no outside power unfortunately. I have little space for a extractor booth, although I could set one up in the loft I suppose just above the loft hatch, stand on the ladder and work! This is the compressor I bought....

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AS-186-Com...item2eb4bff640

    I dont know much about adjusting stuff on it. the instructions are sparse! The guage hits just below 60 and stops. then when i spray air it lasts hardly any time at all before it kicks back in to fill the tank. I am a noob when it comes to airbrushes I'm afraid!


    This is the booth i was looking at....

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    That compressor should not make much noise. Put it under your paint table and spray away.

    Turn the regulator knob to the left to reduce pressure (you may have to lift up the knob first to unlock it).

    I'm guessing you'd want around 15 psi to start with. Check pressure with air flowing out of the airbrush. The gauge may go up some when you stop the air.
    Not enough and you don't get atomization.
    Too much and you shoot so much paint that is spiders or orange peels on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by airhead View Post
    That compressor should not make much noise. Put it under your paint table and spray away.
    It's the same compressor as I've got (and my brother and a mate). Although it's not "super silent", I can airbrush in one room with my girlfriend asleep in the next room without too much hassle.

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    well its not bad, but my mum watches tv downstairs. Without the TV on it can be heard and would probably be annoying. Will have to experiment with the TV on also lol. I am confused as to why the tank stops filling when it hits 57 ish on the guage? Is that as far as it will fill it - doesnt seem like a lot. My purpose for it is to lay down basecoats with it. Maybe later, doing some kind of art with it. I havent even had a chance to test it yet beyond seeing it works and blasting a mate in the face with some air! I have Vallejo model air paints ready to go. a starter set and some metallics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfacedboy uk1 View Post
    well its not bad, but my mum watches tv downstairs. Without the TV on it can be heard and would probably be annoying. Will have to experiment with the TV on also lol. I am confused as to why the tank stops filling when it hits 57 ish on the guage? Is that as far as it will fill it - doesnt seem like a lot. My purpose for it is to lay down basecoats with it. Maybe later, doing some kind of art with it. I havent even had a chance to test it yet beyond seeing it works and blasting a mate in the face with some air! I have Vallejo model air paints ready to go. a starter set and some metallics.

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    Try sitting it on a rubber mat or similar to absorb some of the vibrations - it might help with hearing it downstairs. On mine the guage is related to the pressure I'm spraying at and not the pressure in the tank. Then again, I've never pumped it up as high as 57, even cleaning I only tend to do it around 40psi. What mine does is to completely fill the tank and then just tops it up. Generally I'm spraying VMA around 15~20 psi level

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    right I have no idea what I'm doing regarding setting the psi to be honest. at first i thought there would be a guage for the tank and a guage for the max psi setting you select and then the dual action airbrush that comes with it is what controls how much air you want for the job in hand. thats what I thought it would be. turning the knob didnt seem to do nothing to the needle if I remember rightly. it just goes to 57 and stops and the compressor cuts out until it drops to 40 and then it pumps it back up and the guage hits around 57. Confused noob here. Sorry for the retardedness!!! I looked at the instructions but not much there.....

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    Sounds like your regulator is set to at least 60. You are reading tank pressure. The pump runs until the tank is at 57 (60 nominal) then shuts off. The air comes out of the tank until it is at 40, then the compressor starts again. The tank is rather small so it does not take much air to let it go from 57 to 40. My beast has a 5 gallon (20 liter) tank. I can shoot for a while before it cycles again.

    Now, lift the black knob to unlock it, then turn it counter clockwise to reduce the output pressure until you are around 10 to 15. Try that for shooting. You may turn it up a bit more (20 - 25) for fogging base coats or clear coats. Be sure to push down on the black knob to lock it back in or the vibrations may let it move one way or the other.

    EDIT:
    That model may not have a lock on the regulator knob - it may just be a bit stiff and turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by airhead View Post
    Sounds like your regulator is set to at least 60. You are reading tank pressure. The pump runs until the tank is at 57 (60 nominal) then shuts off. The air comes out of the tank until it is at 40, then the compressor starts again. The tank is rather small so it does not take much air to let it go from 57 to 40. My beast has a 5 gallon (20 liter) tank. I can shoot for a while before it cycles again.

    Now, lift the black knob to unlock it, then turn it counter clockwise to reduce the output pressure until you are around 10 to 15. Try that for shooting. You may turn it up a bit more (20 - 25) for fogging base coats or clear coats. Be sure to push down on the black knob to lock it back in or the vibrations may let it move one way or the other.

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    That model may not have a lock on the regulator knob - it may just be a bit stiff and turn.
    Thanks mate, I will have a fiddle when I have finished moving all my stuff. Moving from a 4 bedroom to a single room involves a lot of packing and throwing stuff out. So it will be a few weeks before I get to play with it properly!

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