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Thread: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

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    Whoops:


    Seems I may have miscalculated on the size of the Titan. That face is huge compared to the Warlord. Of course I had planned upwards of 36 inches ( 0.9144 meters )but I had hoped to keep it under 33 inches (0.8382 meters ) just so it didn't relegate my Warlord to a minor player. This may not be the case now.


    http://i.imgur.com/928kBV1.jpg



    The front view in my estimation is spot on and I shall proceed with the styrene version and make the cutouts on the basic structure. Once I am satisfied with the overall size relationship of the various parts of the 'face' I'll make the details.


    http://i.imgur.com/MBwgT4X.jpg



    The side view doesn't look quite right as there is too much forward projection with the cardboard template. When rendered in styrene wot the extra cheek plates added all will line up as it is supposed to......
    At least that is my expectation.
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    That looks to be the right scale from what I remember from the epic ones, great work as always BA
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    Chin Guard Detail:


    Back from Easter holiday; before I left I started the detail of the chin guard because I might have to put slots in the backing as well as the decorative spear shapes. The slots are ready made aligning points so duplicating the spear point is a cinch.




    http://i.imgur.com/i8pheXC.jpg



    I used a slightly modified tongue depresor to file the pieces to roughly the same shape and each pair is roughly 2 MM longer that the other S M L respectively


    http://i.imgur.com/1IMWqXh.jpg



    Now that the three pair are rough shaped I can clean up the edges and thin them all down to the finished width.


    This model head seems a lot easier than was the Warlord so far.
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    OMG:


    Seriously this is probably the most gratifying construct I have done in quite some time.


    http://i.imgur.com/LpUWR8T.jpg



    Everything is falling into place.


    http://i.imgur.com/pmnMplO.jpg



    Even though the chin armour is too far forward (easily remedied) it gives a hint of the majesty to come.......


    http://i.imgur.com/oeVW0v7.jpg



    It's still not too late to start following/building along on this construction. I foresee this will be quite something when finished. :blush:
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    Looking great BA, and would say it is already quite something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackadder View Post
    It's still not too late to start following/building along on this construction. I foresee this will be quite something when finished. :blush:
    I completely lack the skills to follow this. Incredibly satisfying watching you manufacture this piece of art
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    Inspirational as ever! I must say reading your threads makes me want to convert/scratchbuild a Lucius Reaver too, so I'll be watching very attentively

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasdrubal View Post
    Inspirational as ever! I must say reading your threads makes me want to convert/scratchbuild a Lucius Reaver too, so I'll be watching very attentively
    You may or may not know I started a thread converting a Mars FW Reaver to a Lucius Reaver as my one and only commission;

    http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/...Pattern-Reaver

    The thread went nowhere and I received slight attention on the project. I finished the basic work and sold the Reaver to an Australian forum


    http://i.imgur.com/i9pRHzr.jpg


    but kept one for myself.

    http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/...Pattern-Reaver

    It would give me great pleasure to resurrect the project and bring it to fruition. Give me a reply if you are interested............
    Last edited by Blackadder; 04-18-2017 at 05:55 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackadder View Post
    You may or may not know I started a thread converting a Mars FW Reaver to a Lucius Reaver as my one and only commission;

    http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/...Pattern-Reaver

    The thread went nowhere and I received slight attention on the project. I finished the basic work and sold the Reaver to an Australian forum


    but kept one for myself.

    http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/...Pattern-Reaver

    It would give me great pleasure to resurrect the project and bring it to fruition. Give me a reply if you are interested............
    I indeed went through the thread (couple of non-productive hours at work...) about your Reaver, and would enjoy seeing you complete the build. The concept, design and execution was terrific.

    My project would be a 2018 target as I am preparing to move to a new place, and want to build my Lucius Warhound first to get some clues about the general design. I have limited experience with plasticard (converted a couple of ork battlewagon years ago) and therefore would kitbash a couple of key parts (head and weapons) while scratchbuilding the body and structure. Enough hijacking of your thread, I'll send you a PM.

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    Head looks great. I'm just lurking here, as I have nothing constructive to add, but this is a really amazing project. I'm perhaps most impressed at how reasonably you troubleshoot the inevitable problems that arise in construction- I think I'd have a meltdown if something didn't line up properly.

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    Thanks for the thoughtful reply, a very verbose response especially from a self categorized "Lurker"

    Analyzing the problems encountered is part of the fun plus when I'm finished for the day I get my Martini reward.

    Then A Miracle Happened:


    But no, it didn't.... I was working without checking on the so far completed 'Skull' (well that's what it looks like to me) and I got away from the proper relative sizes. and so far it looks okay. The cheek armour under the visor seems about right especially since the large round canisters under the eye sockets still need to be added.


    http://i.imgur.com/kdIR6Gf.jpg



    I still have to pare down the nose and chin dart embellishments and I'm having difficulty reconciling the extra wide vertical strip under the nose; it looks too wide to me on the skull but less so on the 2D image. I like it thinner as it give the lower face a more refined look.


    http://i.imgur.com/vUrJCti.jpg



    I'm going to have to bit the bullet and be less slavish to the prototype image and do what my instinct tells me looks best.....


    So here is today's effort just tack glue in place temporarily.


    http://i.imgur.com/yUS4JfD.jpg



    and I'm already not liking the chin dart (What was I thinking???) but the roughed in nose seems pretty close to what I looking for.
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    Coming together nicely Mr Adder. Still my favourite current thread on here.

    Keep up the fascinating work and insights into your processes

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    Space Marine regalia:


    Sorry, I got 'way too ahead of myself last night and in a fit of inspiration came up with the resolution to the nose and chin gewgaws but also the iron prow boot.


    First the boot as I don't know what the interior looks like I got the inspiration to make it a solid floor and use the slots for small arms loopholes,


    http://i.imgur.com/wDcB6Y2.jpg



    just about enough room for a coupl'a sharpshooters shoulder to shoulder firing down at retreating infantry probably not in


    http://i.imgur.com/5uE0rpp.jpg



    The floor is 0.040 inch (1,0 MM) styrene which still needs to be trimmed to size but I still left one side not done so you can see the gusset strips needed to spread the floor. 70,0 MM (2.75 inches).


    http://i.imgur.com/i71rWhT.jpg



    Gluing the strip inside first and letting dry for an hour


    http://i.imgur.com/7oBz3p8.jpg



    And finally finishing up the nose vents and rebuilding the chin gewgaw.


    http://i.imgur.com/XhTN3b1.jpg
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    Not so sure about the chin dart too, but the nose lookds great. Have you considered keeping the junction of both cheeks at an angle instead of using a flat area to glue the chin?

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    Back On Track:


    After quite a bit of editing I'm back on track With the nose and chin darts pretty much as I want them but of course they are still rough and need to be refined to a more elegant shape. I think it will be better to do these alterations whilst on the head a bit at a time so as not to compromise what is almost satisfactory.


    http://i.imgur.com/Iy0I9z1.jpg



    I took the image below so the substructure can be seen. I was in a quandary how to make the flare on either side of the chin until I added the floor which made the whole thing easy plus it gave stability to the chin guard and a reason for being; i.e. a small arms fighting platform. I just made more work for myself as now I need to access and egress this area.


    http://i.imgur.com/0ic6dSf.jpg



    The Space Marine is a bit large for this cramped area but a couple of cadians will fit nicely.


    http://i.imgur.com/Pvw7iBM.jpg



    This side view shows I still have a lot of shaping to the flare to do.


    http://i.imgur.com/QWxXLmH.jpg



    and front view likewise but there is a method to my madness because it is easier to sand and shape things smaller than it is to cut off and replace things with larger.


    http://i.imgur.com/LgN0py8.jpg



    So just a couple of more images tour de force while I install the other flare today.


    http://i.imgur.com/9xLnag7.jpg



    http://i.imgur.com/IPjFAHk.jpg
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    That chin dart looks loads better. Not sure I'd want to be cramped up in the chin, but I suppose it's better than being on the outside.

    Are the chin flares getting thinner? At the moment he has a jawline that could cut through steel.
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    Is the visor slightly off center or the one side flared out more, as something looks crooked in the third from the last photo above, but it also could just be the angle of the photo? That little bit of nitpicking done, this is looking fantastic. I admire your skill and patience in creating these monstrosities. Very well done indeed.

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    Like the small arms platforms, in first edition adeptus titanicus, you could have boarding heads so I think this works really well
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    Yeah So The Visor's Not Right; I Know:


    It's like working a Rubik's Cube. You have to discard order to increase order. I have figured out the mechanism to pin the side panels back and still allow for the movement and easy disassembly otherwise I could jut glue and be done with it.




    http://i.imgur.com/4iK9lJH.jpg



    But what I am really showing is the first layer of the reinforcing gussets that I have to admit are somewhat crude.


    The side view seems reminiscent of the Batman comic Joker Which may or may not be a good thing


    http://i.imgur.com/F2GJRLu.jpg



    The rear quarter view show there is still a tremendous amount of detailing to be done. But fun none the less.




    http://i.imgur.com/acYFw8C.jpg



    And of course the hidden areas that no one will ever see once all the magnets and clips are installed to keep the head together.


    http://i.imgur.com/bQhzqH3.jpg



    Finally my unpatented slide mechanism for easy removal of the visor.


    http://i.imgur.com/ZkOCMk4.jpg



    Gawd, I still have to add lighting to this as well!
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    The details are coming together nicely. He's starting to look very menacing.

    Didn't realise you were adding lighting as well. Props for the commitment.
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