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    Does Alyana Heska 's training applies to all melee attacks listed on card (including guard dog of Blind Hakar for example) or only on model's attacks?

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    Not the guard dog's attack. The key thing to look for is "suffers". Those aren't the models attacks so they don't benefit from the training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilDave View Post
    Not the guard dog's attack. The key thing to look for is "suffers". Those aren't the models attacks so they don't benefit from the training.
    I dont follow this logic even a little.

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    The attacks from language like "suffer a d10 melee attack" aren't the attacks of the model. They have no originator, they're just effects that the enemy suffers. See the third answer here:

    http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/...l=1#post794763

    Heska's training gives sundering to the model's melee attacks attack only. As the attack from the Guard Dog ability isn't one of the Blind Hakar's attacks, it doesn't get sundering.
    Last edited by EvilDave; 08-14-2017 at 07:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilDave View Post
    The attacks from language like "suffer a d10 melee attack" aren't the attacks of the model. They have no originator, they're just effects that the enemy suffers. See the third answer here:

    http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/...l=1#post794763

    Heska's training gives sundering to the model's melee attacks attack only. As the attack from the Guard Dog ability isn't one of the Blind Hakar's attacks, it doesn't get sundering.
    Simply saying something is so does not make for a logical, text-based argument.

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    No, it does not. A person would have to cite their sources and those sources would have to be reputable ones in order for an argument to be sensible.

    I asked a similar question with regards to "suffering attacks". The answer Mr. Black gave in the link above was that a model isn't attacking an enemy, the enemy is suffering the attack. The attack doesn't belong to the model.

    If you disagree then ask for yourself on the FAQ thread.
    Last edited by EvilDave; 08-14-2017 at 12:08 PM.

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