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    It happens every time, I vow never to buy another fine cast model again, I then see a model on the GW website that looks like it will be really fun to paint. I buy it, open up the blister and immediately think, "I don't have the ability or the inclination to sort this mess out" the injection points for the moulding are ridiculous. they just make me want to throw the towel in before I start. Does anyone else get that?

    rant aside though, as I do continually keep on getting myself into this situation, despite thinking fine cast is easily the worst material on the market and an absolute rip off to boot (due the stupid amount of prep required and crazy injection points), does anyone have any tips on prepping them? mainly getting rid of the injection points and somehow replacing the missing detail (that was never there as its one big injection point!)?

    Or failing that does anyone have any tips on how to kick the finecast purchasing habit ?

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    first I'm surprised there are still failcasts from GW. Lately I've seen only plastic clam-packs, so I thought it was phased out entirely.

    prep: not really. THe ones I run into in the past (when they were released and no other way to get a figure legally) I replaced them until I got one, where it had only a few bubbles/pit, that could be filled... and even that I tossed in the corner in frustation...
    So you have 2 options:
    - replace until it's as errorfree as possible, then do a little gap/pit-fill with GS/PlasticPutty/Milliput.
    - takes some sculpting material and resculpt the missing/bad parts.

    how to kick the habit:
    - until you learn it's bad for you, you won't.
    - what helps a lot:
    -- figures from other manufacturers
    -- recasts from russia/china as they are either metal or proper resin with the original problems most of the time. (I still find it funny, that most russian recasts of GW/FW products I've seen are better quality than the originals (much better QC))
    Forgot, that it works again.

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    I will happily take finecast over PVC and restic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXXxxx View Post
    first I'm surprised there are still failcasts from GW. Lately I've seen only plastic clam-packs, so I thought it was phased out entirely.

    prep: not really. THe ones I run into in the past (when they were released and no other way to get a figure legally) I replaced them until I got one, where it had only a few bubbles/pit, that could be filled... and even that I tossed in the corner in frustation...
    So you have 2 options:
    - replace until it's as errorfree as possible, then do a little gap/pit-fill with GS/PlasticPutty/Milliput.
    - takes some sculpting material and resculpt the missing/bad parts.

    how to kick the habit:
    - until you learn it's bad for you, you won't.
    - what helps a lot:
    -- figures from other manufacturers
    -- recasts from russia/china as they are either metal or proper resin with the original problems most of the time. (I still find it funny, that most russian recasts of GW/FW products I've seen are better quality than the originals (much better QC))
    thanks for the advice, in fairness the casting is better then it was, there much less bubbles then the were. but the issues on this model and other don't look random, its as if the model is made that way. they always seem to have big sections of what look gussets attached to large pieces of detail

    Quote Originally Posted by gohkm View Post
    I will happily take finecast over PVC and restic.
    ive not used those before, they must be bad if your would rather finecast

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    Quote Originally Posted by gohkm View Post
    I will happily take finecast over PVC and restic.
    Have you seen Massive Darkness? CMON has PVC mastered at this point.
    The mold lines are few, the detail crisp, and the plastic is much stiffer than any other PVC models.
    They have completely changed my mind about PVC.






    Also, I have bought all of one Finecast model, and will never buy another. By far the worst material I have encountered in my 30 years of modeling.
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    I was so sad when i opened the lovely canonness sculpt and found her to be fail cast. Plastic or metal. I am done with resin. I am gun shy of even Forgeworld and raging heroes after some really bad experiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghool View Post
    Also, I have bought all of one Finecast model, and will never buy another. By far the worst material I have encountered in my 30 years of modeling.
    Absolutely true.
    I’ve two Foulcrust pieces I’ve been given and keep getting asked when I’m doing them. Truth is I’m loathe to even open them.
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    thanks for the replys nice to know I'm not alone in this. I'm really going to try and kick the habit.

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    I must admit that my most recent purchases (like I need to increase Paul’s inheritance any further) have all been larger scale figures and busts.
    But I’ve still got got enough lead, pewter, plastic and resin to make my house lean to one side.
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    What mould lines there are remain horrendous to clean. I am still not impressed with pvc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gohkm View Post
    What mould lines there are remain horrendous to clean. I am still not impressed with pvc.
    A fresh blade on your hobby knife, and you can shave it off. What I can't get at, I hide with paint.
    With a bit of practice, getting mold lines off of PVC is no more difficult than any other material.

    I used to be an anti-PVC modeler. I hated the stuff.

    Now, however, with the advances in technology, and the manufacturers realizing what standard they need to be compared against, PVC has moved from 'cheap board game mini material' to 'crisp, finely-detailed hard plastic'.
    But, when you come to the conclusion it's going no where fast, and pretty soon every mass-produced miniature will be made of it, there's only one thing to do - accept it. Then get good at dealing with how to prep the material and it becomes no more difficult than metal, styrene, or resin.

    The only time mold lines are more difficult to remove is when the model is pre-assembled. Even so, a lot can be hidden with paint.

    All any of this requires is a change of perspective.



    All that said, Finecast is still indeed crap.
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