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Old 11-08-2009, 06:38 PM   #21
 
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Originally Posted by exilesjjb View Post
Did not know you wanted to see our working out, should have listerned to my math teacher and always put working out.
At uni we would get 0 points for giving the correct answer without explaining how we got there. In mathematics, it's not the answer that is important.
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That is what I was always told there are infinite ways to do the problem wrong and get a correct answer. That being said there is only one correct way to do it the way the teacher wants it.
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Old 11-08-2009, 06:45 PM   #23
 
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Yeah, one of my math teachers in high school really hated it when I would solve problems without showing my work; even more so when I would just solve the problems in my head.
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Old 11-08-2009, 09:28 PM   #24
 
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My math teacher would complain about not showing my work and then ask me to do it in my head in front of class. He'd always get mad when I could do fairly complex problems in my head.
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Originally Posted by devoncodain View Post
That is what I was always told there are infinite ways to do the problem wrong and get a correct answer. That being said there is only one correct way to do it the way the teacher wants it.
There are often several ways to solve mathematical problems. There are several hundred ways to prove the Pythagorean theorem, for instance.
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Darn, I was too close to getting it right, I took it one step too far and warped the correct answer into the wrong. Had a friend point it out rather bluntly to me yesterday. Can't say I understand how I was thinking. XD
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I've got a nose bleed after reading this thread. It all makes no sense whatsoever


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Urrgh, I hate maths.
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Originally Posted by tooshy View Post
PS Where have all the smiley face graphics gone..... ???
You need to set the editor option to standard or WYSIWYG in the Edit Options section of the User CP.
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Exiles - Apologies. I didn't actually ask for the explanation.
I was simply noting that 3 people did a nice job of explaining their thought process.

Chrome - I knew you understood it. Just got lost towards the end....

BTW

I am on my way to becoming a math teacher ( at the ripe old age of 50 ).
I can assure you that a good teacher respects a variety of approaches
which can yield the same answer.

The issue a teacher faces when a student has an alternate path is the potential
to a) slow down the momentum / process and b) distract / confuse those in the
class who need clarity and the simplest, most direct path.

Unfortunately, the pressure to get through the material can kill the spontaneous
and alternative paths to learning. That's not just a math issue. Sad, but true.
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Originally Posted by Ritual View Post
At uni we would get 0 points for giving the correct answer without explaining how we got there. In mathematics, it's not the answer that is important.
bloody maths, thats why i am with the inquisition on this one - "the end justifies the means!!"

having said that i am scientist so i like to see logical processes
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The exact quote is "The ends ALWAYS justify the means" which is a wee bit more terrifying

Anyway these problems always make me a bit sad. When an arts department grad like me can get them right in a matter of seconds and 83% of all university students get them wrong, I have to wonder what the hell they're teaching the actual scientists/engineers/math students/whatever who actually take math classes.
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Originally Posted by Jericho View Post
I have to wonder what the hell they're teaching the actual scientists/engineers/math students/whatever who actually take math classes.
My math class they taught how to make that shot from just outside the 3 point range or to wrap up the legs and bring down the ball carrier. All our math teachers were horrible and were not all that good as coaches for the basketball and football team either.
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