The Gamer Community Beginner | Rating: 9.12 Votes: 73 Views: 10619 | By: Otter  |
| Category: General Subcategory: Misc | Date: 2003-04-18 09:06:20 |
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I love comics and computer games, and because of my interests and my friends I am constantly coming in contact with those who embody the stereotypical image of the D&D-type campaign gamers. I do not understand them at all. They are unbelievably offensive in their actions and their behavior. It’s amazing that someone has not beaten them to within an inch of their lives with a hardbound copy of “Miss Manners”.
If anyone plays here (I’m certain there are some, as we’ve all rolled the dice a time or two), I am assuming that you are one of those that likes to play but are like my boyfriend and his circle of D&D friends: Socially-oriented, family-type people who just happen to also enjoy role-playing, and not those portrayed in this piece. But the stereotype exists and it is both well-deserved and nasty, and this is a composite piece on several events that have happened in a few gamer stores over the past few months.
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“A little thing like you don’t need minotaurs.”
It’s Saturday, I’m in a game shop, and somehow I’ve grown a forty-three-year-old boil on my left shoulder. He stinks of old pizza, he’s wearing a wedding ring, and he keeps trying to bump his crotch against my leg.
“I keep tellin’ you, get the elf ladies. Don’t you like elf ladies? You see Lord of the Rings? Here’s one on a unicorn.”
I’ve already run three laps around the store trying to circle away from him and haven’t otherwise acknowledged his existence. Based on his deft handling of women, I suppose that he thinks I’m smitten as I have neither chucked my hot chocolate on him, nor screamed and run off with my hands waving frantically like Kermit the Frog announcing the evening’s guest.
My choices aren’t good. It’s customer appreciation day and I can either leave the store and sacrifice forty bucks of free merchandise or knee the guy in the groin and never be allowed back. He appears to be a friend of the manager’s and I’m betting he’ll stick around until closing, lending aid to the female customers of his choice. I’ve been waiting for another woman over the age of twenty to come in since if I ditched him on the defenseless little girls reading through the Ranma series at the counter I’d be committing a mortal sin. Some part of my brain yammering for a fight wants to ask him what his DC challenge rating is for moving out of his parents’ basement.
“Tell ya what. Put those back and let me pick ‘em out for you.”
Moving from New York to North Carolina has been a real culture shock. The suitable old joke that I’d be shocked to find culture applies, but there is a nightlife if you know where to look for it. Unfortunately, living with two teachers and a police officer means that the household usually falls into bed at around ten, leaving me to crawl the walls until the day’s caffeine has dissipated. Being a hardcore Dungeons and Dragons fanatic as well as an art teacher, one of my roommates paints the little pewter miniatures that they use in table campaigns. One night with time to kill I started painting. Now, I’m incredibly hooked. Painting these things is similar to zen meditation - You have to focus and relax at the same time to paint a statue the size of a nickel so perfectly that it seems a full-sized toy when photographed. For example, take a look at this picture:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/?id=256
The statuette in this picture is less than two inches long and an inch high, if that, and most assuredly not one of mine. It’s a real art and I’m entranced by the whole process. The only problem is, of course, that I’m now dependent on the gamer community for its resources. Usually, there’s no challenge popping into the local gamer store for a quick browse and some paint. As long as you stay out of the store on weekend afternoons and evenings when the games are being run, it’s a fast and easy process. But if you dare brave the store during these times…
My main problem with the average table gamer is they have no social graces. None whatsoever. I’d like to be proven wrong as my boyfriend and several friends are gamers and they are extremely open, intelligent people who shatter the stereotype of reclusive and inept jerks squatting in a dank basement, shrieking out the names of fake deities while slugging back Mountain Dew and fistfuls of Cheetos. Maybe they ARE the average… maybe the gamer who acts like they missed a crucial rung on Darwin’s ladder is just the vocal minority. But until I meet more gamers who are also able to function within a non-game-oriented culture, I’m sticking with the stereotype. Every time I go into a game store I have some viciously negative experience that keeps convincing me that the norm is dead-on-balls accurate. I turn to collect money from someone and a kid swipes an item I’ve already paid for off of the counter. The clerk tells me that I can’t open a $3 miniature until my card has been run through the machine because he can’t be sure that I have enough money in my account to cover it (A valid point, perhaps, but one that sounds a bit off when delivered by saying “Stop it. We don’t want to lose money on you” to a regular customer who drops $50 or more a week.). A box of new releases comes in and the menfolk crowd around the counter ogling, then literally yank it away and cover it with their bodies to hide it from view when I come over to look. And don’t forget the Boob Factor, which apparently suggests to all male comers that if I enter a store alone than I’ve made a public announcement that all men regardless of age should either try to pick me up or should talk in very simple words so the icky estrogen doesn’t hinder important information from reaching my underdeveloped brain.
Like my shadow, who has finally meandered away. He’s waddled to the rear of the store to complain loudly to his manager friend about meeting a “cold bitch” somewhere. Gee, I wonder if I’m meant to overhear? At least now I can look at the items on the lower racks without denim in my ear.
Now, miniatures in hand, it’s time to run the gauntlet. As I mentioned, it’s customer appreciation day and the store is packed with gamers taking advantage of the sales. The counter has a long line and is three people deep with college-age kids wearing rancid oilcloth. Being told I’m a fool while fending off a pelvic region is bad enough, but this is the part I really hate – You cannot be in the proximity of a gamer without entering into their world. The second you enter into what a gamer perceives as their personal space, even if it’s as simple as standing in a line behind them, they assume the right to either talk to you as they would an old friend or confront you over some imagined slight. The first is just confusing, the latter incredibly insulting: If I saw a ninety-three-year-old woman buying a crate of Aqualube and eagerly thumbing through a Playboy from 1983 featuring “Dynasty’s” fully nude Joan Collins, damned right I’d be calling my friends and relatives once out of the store but I’d never question her right to buy them, and never directly to her face. This is inevitably what happens in line at a game store, where your purchasing preferences are everyone else’s business. And even the clerks take part in a jolly bout of customer criticism, which is just ludicrous. Doesn’t your livelihood depend on taking my money? Why do you want to discourage this?
For once, it looks like they don’t much care what I’m buying. Instead, they are focused on the gentleman in front of me recite facts and figures from some world I’ve never heard of. I pick up one of the Ranmas, lean on the counter and tune out, ever so often inching my way up in line.
Suddenly a finger stabs down onto my book and the gentleman in front of me looks me straight in the eyes. He says, very intently: “I know more about weapons than anyone else in this store.”
I show empty hands and back up a step, saying something banal like “No problems here.”
Oh yes, stupid me. I forgot this was one of my best friends and he was just starting conversation. The gaggle of gamers LOSES it, some of them laughing so hard that they choke and gag. The clerk doubles over. Ha ha, I laugh, Yes, yes, good joke. The kindly gentleman explains that he is an expert on arms and armor in Whereverville, then pulls back his coat to show a heavy knife. You know the type, the brushed steel variety that is sold at Renaissance faires. He then makes eye contact again and in a low voice says, “If that had been a threat, you would know it.”
Now, knives are like underwear. If you’re the typical run-of-the-mill underwear-wearing individual, you put it on in the morning and forget about it. If you consciously think about your underwear during the day, something has gone wrong and your underwear is in need of attention. People who go around flashing their underwear in public are likely to go to jail for an indeterminate period of time. Which is why the Benchmade Balisong in my waistband remains covered by my shirt and I make a nicely impressed “Ooooh” sound for the benefit of my new best friend. I’m up next in line and I cannot WAIT to get out of here. I don’t care if my boyfriend needs to work next customer appreciation day - I’m digging him out of that classroom and using him as full-bodied gamer deodorant.
Now I’m finally at the clerk, I’m finally paying, and I’m so close to leaving that I’m practically out the door. I’ve planned to run across the street for a sushi lunch and by now I’m really, REALLY looking forward to curling up with a novel, some hot tea, and an eel special roll. Which is why when the gentleman with the iron skewer loudly announces to his friends that they should go eat at this same restaurant that I shake my head and quietly sigh. At which time – and I swear this happened – the clerk looks at me and shouts “You got a problem with the Japanese?” The gaggle of gamers starts accosting me about racism and one of them said: “I knew it. She’s wearing leather.” Great. So in addition to being an ice queen and a coward, I am also a racist and a black leather jacket is apparently the new covert symbol of the KKK.
I really hate gamers.
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duckfoot
30 April 09 |  |
Rating: 8
Otter,
Sorry that happened to you (and anyone else that happened/happens to)
i have worked & work (if you can call it work) in several games stores i have never come across such ... craziness ... yes the stereotypical gamer to girl/woman ineptitude exists but the out right rudeness i hope is at least exaggerated a little on your part.
if anything like that happens .. please tell the manager or police. its gives a real bad name to us "gamers" & "nerds" if/when that happens.
but to be fare ... its not limited to "gamestore geeks" or men/boys for that matter.
Sports stores/events - clothing stores - book stores, anywhere that has a hobby aspect to it will have the proverbial "@$$ #0!3s" who take a hobby to far.
it sucks to hear so many people bashing game stores in responce to your article.
they can be fun places to play & hang out don't let your insecurity's & lack of social skills stop you from hanging out/playing at all game stores because you found a dud.
Please go to the manager .. if its worse there, go to the local authority's, newspaper, Better Business Bureau. its ruining it for you .. and for the rest of us.
i could go on along time so i will finish with the following
to Women everywhere ... I'm sorry men are pervs please don't let that stop you from enjoying the hobby painting/gaming (or any other for that matter)
and to everyone if your ever in BC Canada check out the "safe" game stores
Craving for a game in Surrey BC (Owned & operated by Buck Lum hes good ppl) & WarcraftGames in Mission BC (owened & operated by Matt Walsh also good ppl)
I'm not saying the others aren't "safe" or good ppl) i just don't frequent the other stores enough
also
@ ringsnake
excellent reference to summoner geeks .. that is a cherished nerd video .. if ya all liked that and can laugh at D&D nerdy check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyxnEKTjhj0
@ everyone
a Borg cube would decimate a/the deathstar. not that i like star trek more or less than starwars (because starwars is cooler but startrek is more powerful) its just the "science of" that says it would .. even the RotJ deathstar fully operational wouldn't stand much of a chance.
@ vincegamer
a "DC challenge rating" is a D&D reference to a dice check (DC) giving various tasks a set number to reach while rolling a dice to complete said task... not forgetting to add any "in game" & character class/skill modifiers of course
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White Rose
07 June 08 |  |
Rating: 10
Entertaining story, although I'm certain you were less than entertained during the occassion. I'm a female gamer myself and while I have seen those extremes I can tell you that 90% of gamers I deal with at conventions and hobby stores are NOT like that. All my friends are gamers and they are well educated and well groomed. Try another gaming store in the area? It may also be a regional issue as I am in SF Cali area so there's a "larger cross section of the gamer population" than what may be in NC?
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Jibba Jabbas
30 December 07 |  |
Rating: 10
You are dead on. My gaming group tends to be a little too friendly also, strangle holds, insults upon my taste in music, are all too common. All though they tend to be more polite when a lady walks in (no cussing, insults or yelling) there are other places where they make up for this.
Not to mention the character my friend seems to get into whenever we seem to walk into a burger king for lunch. "Slaanesh wants you...." and "Dem crispy 'umans is good for da orks..." pop up often ....<_<
I juist act like i don't understand him...
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Jak OConnor
01 August 07 |  |
Rating: 9
This was priceless. I know for a fact that the majority of gamers are not as bad as the ones you have run into, but the stereotypical geeks really exist. I usually go into this one game shop where the crowd is a little on the socially degenerate side. Just a couple of days ago my girlfriend came with me because she wanted to try painting something. From the moment she walked in until the moment we walked out with some eldar Striking Scorpions the eyes of every male geek over thirteen had their eyes glued to her. Everything was eerily quiet, and I'm pretty sure that the only reason she wasn't swarmed with overweight WoW card players was that I was there as a deterrent.
Of course, whenever I go into that shop on my own I'm never bothered. The only time I ever felt uncomfortable in there was when she was with me, and only because of the lack of social grace those soda chugging apes have.
A point of interest, there's a small contingent of women gamers that are the perfect counterparts to the stereotypical male geeks. These women think they're desirable and god's gift to men when they get so much attention from those geeks. As a result they're brazen enough to flirt with any man that moves in those shops, even when they have their girlfriend right there with them. Kind of like the Desert Queen syndrome if anyone knows what I mean.
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Yetie
10 June 07 |  |
Rating: 10
Def now how you feel, might be a bloke but when you walk in a store with your suit on people's heads tend to turn with strange looks on faces. Seeing as i have to wear one for work it happens alot also not really being a gamer doesnt help. On the whole most of the guys and gales in store are fine but some just want to question your right to be part of this world because you dont look the same as them or act the same. When its all said and done weather your a gamer or part of some other aspect of society some people feel the need to own part of it and thus try and conform that part to their vision of it and if you don't conform then they wont like it. I'm sure that they don't mean anything by it on the whole and i've found just telling them politly that for the last x amount of years i've been able to make my own decsions on things and really dont need advice or to be told what to do they get the hint.
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Greg Ellis
15 April 07 |  |
Rating: 10
This was a fun read. I've certainly encountered this sort of thing, and not just in game stores.
I count myself lucky, I guess. There's a little game shop in downtown Newmarket, where I live, that has it's group of Saturday regulars. But they're polite, non-intrusive and much more focussed on the game than on whoever might be wandering around the store. And the counter guy (who is clean cut, well dressed and smells fine) literally jumps up from the table and gets himself into a helpful stance behind the counter as soon as a customer comes into the shop. He's eager to sell things, and recognizes the value of a happy customer. Obviously.
I think it's like everything in life. You've got yourself a bad apple there. My advice would be to do something about it. Speak with the annoying patrons first. Calmly and directly, to their faces. "Thanks, but I really don't need any help; I know what I'm looking for." That sort of thing. "Please leave me alone, I'm trying to concentrate" isn't bad either, if the first try fails. "Icey b!t(%" is actually a complement, of sorts 
If you're really being pestered, and the guy can't take a hint, speak with the store manager. If the manager is part of the problem, take it up with GW headquarters (assuming this is a Games Workshop). Nothing will change if you don't make the effort.
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Greg Ellis
15 April 07 |  |
Rating: 10
This was a fun read. I've certainly encountered this sort of thing, and not just in game stores.
I count myself lucky, I guess. There's a little game shop in downtown Newmarket, where I live, that has it's group of Saturday regulars. But they're polite, non-intrusive and much more focussed on the game than on whoever might be wandering around the store. And the counter guy (who is clean cut, well dressed and smells fine) literally jumps up from the table and gets himself into a helpful stance behind the counter as soon as a customer comes into the shop. He's eager to sell things, and recognizes the value of a happy customer. Obviously.
I think it's like everything in life. You've got yourself a bad apple there. My advice would be to do something about it. Speak with the annoying patrons first. Calmly and directly, to their faces. "Thanks, but I really don't need any help; I know what I'm looking for." That sort of thing. "Please leave me alone, I'm trying to concentrate" isn't bad either, if the first try fails. "Icey b!t(%" is actually a complement, of sorts 
If you're really being pestered, and the guy can't take a hint, speak with the store manager. If the manager is part of the problem, take it up with GW headquarters (assuming this is a Games Workshop). Nothing will change if you don't make the effort.
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Juggernaut
30 March 07 |  |
Rating: 8
Funny? Definetively! But honestly, as you seem to be grown up don't you think you might exaggerate just a little bit??? I mean I know that there are a lot of freaks out there but that's the case with every "social" group ( teachers, sportsmen, club goers, etc. etc. ...). As you're an adult you should either know how to fend off certain advances or be relaxed enough(Zen) to ignore them. Oh, right that moron with the knife: I don't know how things work in whereever but should someone walk around here with a large dagger on the belt, well the cops woudn't be too pleased about that for sure!!! Funny reading though
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blueshift
09 February 07 |  |
Rating: 6
hmm..
funny? yes.
well written? yes.
self-absorbed? uh-huh.
tragic? no.
pretentious? unfortunately.
how interesting it is to not only read the article, but the comments along with it. good stuff.
and just to stick it to all those "amen sister" comments... i guess its just a chick thing.
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Rancor pilot
30 January 07 |  |
Rating: 8
Mongoose Publishing puts out a little book called "The Slayer's Guide to Female Gamers" that has a similar take on the gaming community, and just as funny. Sadly, D&D and its outgrowth games attract people with a low level of social skills, and stereotypes have to come from somewhere. That being said, I play D&D on weekends with two different groups. One has 2 other girls in a group of 9, and in the other I was the only girl until a few weeks ago when we attracted another. I probably have a different perspective, being the wife of another gamer, than a single woman would, but the guys treat me with a good deal of respect but still a good deal of good-natured kidding. The GM on Saturday even insisted a few weeks ago that the guys take their gas in another room, for my sake. Maybe there's hope! 
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oxidosis
15 January 07 |  |
Rating: 10
YAY, very funny, and i know the types luckily enough i don't think they're that common round here, either that or i've spent too much time among them and am now beginning to zone them out.
i don't think that they are the majority, it's just that they're generally so annoying that you can't really pay attention to much else otherwise they sneak up on you and roll dice to decide if they should "smite thee down".
i am also close to suggesting that those that have rated it around the 1-3 region are possibly belonging to that clique of super gamers annoying elite, this would allow a perspective ratio of weirdos to norms. but then i think it'd be better just to say "lighten up guys, have a little humour"
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spazzy
18 May 06 |  |
Rating: 10
LMAO! Whew...that's good stuff. Being a well proportioned, attractive woman in what seems to be a male dominant hobby, I understand what you're going through. I'm usually a nice person, and to continue being that way, I usually don't go into gaming shops without my tall, muscular hubby. Amazing how few wierdos I meet when he's nearby... Now, don't get me wrong, I know that there are normal people who also game, but you must admit that they can be difficult to find. To be honest, we don't put out notices at the game shops for new gamers to our group because we don't want unsavory individuals in our house or near our 3 year old daughter. Also, we recognize both gaming and mini painting for what they are, hobbies.
That being said, we do most of our hobby shopping on line. Aside from the fact that we live 50 miles from the nearest game shop and the shipping is cheaper than the gas it takes to get there, the selection is much better than any store I've ever seen.
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grungydan
07 May 06 |  |
Rating: 1
Pathetically self-absorbed, and not without a heavy dose of snobbery.
I have no idea why this article is allowed to remain posted, as it holds neither instruction nor intellectual merit. It's simply the personal shortcomings of its author detailed for all to see.
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White Tiger
06 February 06 |  |
Rating: 10
Zaku is right, this kind of thing also happens around the world (I'm from Australia). GW stores seem to attract at least a few strange ones every time I'm there.
And I agree, women should not be subject to that kind of humiliation (nor should it to men...but then again it doesn't happen to men usually to be honest).
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JhonnyGoo
26 January 06 |  |
Rating: 10
You really nailed it! It is sad that game stores are such "cruel places", but you do not need them to play! I also love to play and now i also start to love painting and i can say i am a lucky guy, because i play with my friends, really cool and social guys (who also hate these game stores).
We all love to play, because it is a lot of fun (and it looks better than chess, because of the minis), but we are no typical gamers, because nearly everybody i know said something like:"what?!? you play with little elves and dwarves?? you must be kidding? you do not look like a... a... fanatic."
All I can say is:" thank god for giving me a brain, good education and these cool minis to paint and play with!"
Good night ;-)
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ManillaRoad
04 January 06 |  |
Rating: 10
Very recognisable.
I'm, just like the gentelman below, a 28 y/old male miniature enthousiast. My girlfriend and I have been together for 9 years now and happily painting together for 8 years. We've been to quite a few gameshops together and I've also travelled quite a bit over the world and visited gameshops and I have to say 99% of them, no matter if in my hometown in Holland or in a GW Store in Dallas, TX , fit the description.
This is also the number 1 reason why I do not game as much as I'd like to. Gamestores are usually filled with kids, teens or geeky 20-somethings that :
1. Are socially inept (smelly, snotty, loud, dumb,etc.)
2. Averse to painting miniatures to a standard if painting them at all
3. Trapped in the "my Space Wolves are superior to your army" - even the store clercks -sometimes grown men- fall into this trap.
4. Think certain armies are "not for women" or some mini's are "too hard to assemble or paint" for women
5. Think you are interested in their lives, armies, crappy painting, "advice", etc. even when just minding your business and apparently not showing any interest.
6.Think they can give my girlfriend better advice than I can. On painting, army selection, miniature choices, etc.
7.Think they can impress you with rumours and "knowledge" (aka GW Fanboism), again unsollicited.
I would really love to meet gamers who are socially skilled, intelligent and paint their mini's and who are also serious about gaming and not about "hanging around" - because the rules and games themselves appeal a lot to me.
I still remain most of a painter of miniatures. I would love to know some serious painters besides my girlfriend IRL. Painting with a small group is just as fulfilling as gaming. On the few rare ocassions I had the chance to do either, I immensely enjoyed it.
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grifon
14 December 05 |  |
Rating: 10
Otter, I appreciate what you wrote here, more than you might be able to understand…
CAVEAT: Like Otter, for the most part I have found the regulars here on CMON to be excellent people for the most part, and this isn’t about you guys, but about those who are damaging the hobby.
First a little background, I am a 28 year old male, social, happy guy, who enjoys may hobbies outside of gaming. I have a soft spot in me for this hobby though, as it has been with me for a large portion of my life.
Let me tell you, everything she has said is true…
I have been married for the last 5 years to a wonderful girl who is also, to my fortune, a gamer and interested in the painting of miniatures. She has seen firsthand many of the behaviours in this article, not icluding, inappropriate jokes, comments, behaviours that would make my grandmother roll over in her grave. She refuses to go into hobby stores without me, she doesn’t like the environment one bit.
Now for the really sad part, I agree with her…
I am a miniature painter, and I am heavily involved with a number of local competitions that were setup to get newer people involved in the hobby. I admit that right now I don’t have a lot of time to play Warhammer 40K or the like, but that isn’t a problem with the local hobby shop management, as long as I go and buy my miniatures and White Dwarfs from them ^_^. The problem isn’t the management, in a lot of cases, it is the “Knowledgeable Gamer” employee, and the guys that hang out at the store ALL DAY. Let me use a recent example:
I am in the process of working on a an entry for the Golden Demon Competition this year in LA. I needed to get a box of standard Chaos Marines, along with some paint, and my White Dwarf for the month. I headed out to my local hobby shop, and there were the usual crowd of people there on a Friday night, some of whom I have met in passing but for the most part, I am not involved with the group there.
I found the employee who was currently supposed to be working the miniature counter [they keep them all behind the counter at that store, which means that you have to ask one of the employees] after waiting patiently for 10 minutes while he went on to some friend of his about why a Borg Cube would defeat the Death Star [and if you think I am making this up…Well…Sorry…] He then headed over to the counter and proceeded to try and find the box for me, he found that they were out. Now I was in a bit of a pickle, I have a very specific time table setup for this competition and I know that any loss is going to make it hard to complete, so I knew I would have to improvise. Suddenly a large smelly [sorry, but it does seem to be a problem] wanders over and tells me to to buy a box of tactical loyalist marines, and glue toothpicks to their heads, and paint them. That’s what he did. Now I need to mention here that I have a number of pieces on display at this store, and I have taught classes there as well, I politely thanked him for his advice and then went back to figuring out what to do, this wasn’t over…He then got the store employee in on the whole thing, and they BOTH told me how I could convert regular marines into something special. Now none of this would be a problem if solicited or if I even knew these guys, but it was put with a real knowitallness that annoyed me. I finally decided to buy the Night Lords box set as it had everthing I needed and some cool stuff for the bits box. By this time those two had left me alone and I headed for the counter, the employeebehind the counter then asked me what army I played, I explained that I don’t really play these days, I mostly paint, but that I am going to be getting back into it soon. I admitted that I am a fanatic about painting and that if it isn’t a standard I would enter into a competition, I don’t put it on the field. The employee laughed and said he knew what I meant.
Then suddenly [actually I think I felt the giant mental and social void that is the daily crew] a guy lept up and started in effect yelling at me because I have quote “Ruined the hobby for the rest of us who aren’t great painters” This was because in my conversation with the employee from the store I mentioned that I wouldn’t play with people with unpainted figures, I just want to see people make an effort [BTW, this exact point was made in this months White Dwarf] I never said anything to him or diaparaging about the peoples painting standards there, I was just having a conversation with the guy behind the counter, and this fool and his cronies decided that I needed to be put in my place. To top it all off, one of them saw what I was buying and informed me that Chaos Marines “Sucked like sh*t!” and I wouldn’t survive 20 minutes against his Tyranids. I left quickly after that, somewhat annoyed, but also amused at the stupidity of people.
But the problem is that this is the norm, I would harken a guess that most of the people who hang out in the store all weekend like that don’t have anything else to do with their time, or don’t know how to interact out of their little fantasy world. These people hang around like pathetic deities ruling over their little kingdoms, thinking that we all want to know what they think about our armies and what we do. I have had them open up a sealed metal figure case and start taking out my competition entries, without asking or anything, and then proceeding to bash on the paint job when I politely ask them to leave them alone.
One of the more amusing moments that I have had was when I was ASKED by the store manager to get him some contact information for myself, since he had people wanting to get some figures commissioned. One of the guys who spends time at the store did some commission work [well if you could call it that, it looked like he dipped it in paint and then dry brushed one color] got angry and suggested that this was his turf. He didn’t ask who asked me to put the stuff up or anything like that, he just started bashing on me for what he saw as my expensive prices [I have the awards to back those up, if you can call $25 for a rank and file expensive]
I guess what it comes down to is this, every store I have been into has these problems, it only seems to be stores where the management has some stricter policies [only actual players at the gaming tables, rules about what can be used for games, etc.] do I notice these attitudes less, but I still see them. I am sorry that I have a bit more of a life than sofe of these people, and the sad thing is that many of them could be really nice folks if tbey would step outside their little world once in awhile and see what else was going on in the world.
And to “those” people who might be listening [by those, I mean the types I have referred to in this discussion] be nice towards our female brethren, the women/girls who play these games and enjoy this hobby are as worthy of your respect as anyone else. Try being nice once in awhile you may never know when you might find a woman/girl to whom you become attached, and just think of how she is going to get treated..
Just my 5 bucks…
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CaptNarcissisto
03 September 05 |  |
Rating: 10
Your review seems very true.
I'm a guy about 30, and a closet gamer, but mostly painter. None of my friends game (or ever would), so when I do it's with my brother and his friends. I generally hate game stores, for the simple annoyance factor of the employees and customers (children and older weirdos) is more than I can stand usually. Thank God for the internet. I don't think all gamers are like this (I've met some cool ones), but the proportion of social inepts is certainly much higher in the gamer community than the population at large.
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Tzarkan
10 July 05 |  |
Rating: 10
Hehe, must say I agree.
Sometimes you walk into a games store filled with stereotypical Geeks that drool all over girls when they come in =P
I must say that not everyone is like that though, I know enough gamers with a normal social life thet only game in their spare time.
I think it's just the *got nothing better to do so I'll hang around in the Game Store all day* people. You also have the fat gamer with his belly lying on the table stinking of sweat.
Next time a gamer bothers you, give him a photocopy of one of the pages of the how to make friends book =P Or just tell them to *beep* off or you'll kick them in the nutts.
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Godhammer
22 June 05 |  |
Rating: 10
I think this is a very good article. My friends and I have had to "remove" quite a few people like the ones you describe from the store we frequent because the owner doesn't like gamers and is just looking for an excuse to get rid of us. One really good strategy we've come up with for the few women that can stand us (I'm just plain ugly so being a gamer doesn't help) is the "butch lesbian with no conpunctions about rendering you a eunich" bit. Simply continue wearing the leather except act like you would like nothing better than to castrate the bastard if he harasses you. Worked for a 5'1" lady when a guy built like a buick started hitting on her. You may also try the "overenthusiastic sociopath" bit were you seem to latch on to every word they say and return the favor of stalking them through the store. You may also try getting the Varsity Football team from your local high school to "escort" you there, works espially well if you can get them all in suits with sunglasses and looking like bodyguards.
Cheers,
Godhammer, the weird guy with the dice
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Godhammer
22 June 05 |  |
Rating: 10
I think this is a very good article. My friends and I have had to "remove" quite a few people like the ones you describe from the store we frequent because the owner doesn't like gamers and is just looking for an excuse to get rid of us. One really good strategy we've come up with for the few women that can stand us (I'm just plain ugly so being a gamer doesn't help) is the "butch lesbian with no conpunctions about rendering you a eunich" bit. Simply continue wearing the leather except act like you would like nothing better than to castrate the bastard if he harasses you. Worked for a 5'1" lady when a guy built like a buick started hitting on her. You may also try the "overenthusiastic sociopath" bit were you seem to latch on to every word they say and return the favor of stalking them through the store. You may also try getting the Varsity Football team from your local high school to "escort" you there, works espially well if you can get them all in suits with sunglasses and looking like bodyguards.
Cheers,
Godhammer, the weird guy with the dice
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Dr Death
02 May 05 |  |
Rating: 2
Im not going to pretend i particularly like this article and nor am i going to pretend that i could not, at certain moments be classed among their numbers.
Ringsnake mentioned Aspergers and as someone with the condition maybe i can shed a little light on these "types". Contrary to popular beleif just because we lack many of lifes social graces and do get a bit wound up in our hobby does not mean we are bad people, indeed you would find few more moral people around, nor does it mean we are doomed to the fate of being a basement dwelling gaming geek as famous aspergers such as Bill Gates (bad example of an exception, i know) and Thomas Jefferson show. However most of my kind do find social interaction as hard as speaking in a foreign language, often prone to misinterpretation and sometimes appearing plain rude, i apologise profusely if you have found us so but its just part of the condition.
Theirs only so much i can put in a "reveiw" of this article (though ive said precious little by way of literary critisism) but i can advise you to look a little beyond surface value, talk to the person, once you get them going you will find few more dedicated people in the hobby even if it does reach geekish extremes.
Just to really put the shine on the "if you have been effected by the issues in this program" message, you can contact me at drdeath153@hotmail.com for any further imformation (put something obvious in the title, like "read your reveiw on CMON" just so i dont mistake it for junk mail) alternatively you can remain in blissful and bitter ignorance of a condition thats taking the world by storm
Dr Death
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Shadzar
25 February 05 |  |
Rating: 1
you are more than welcome to move back to new york. we north carolinians wont mind. and i dont know what rednickville part of north carolina you are in, but you must realize that game stores are like states. you just found a crap one. and no matter what you have the choice of telling people to go away from you.
any of the stores i go to no one would hardly notice a female coming in. its more like this...
here door chime...everyone looks to see who it is...no one anyone knows...returns to what they were doing.
1- all game/comic stores have one each of these.
the smelly guy....
the god's gift to women guy...
the lazy/dont care about the customers employee...
the everyone listen to me say nothing of importance at all guy...
and many more.
2- there is never a time you canNOT tell someone to leave you alone. simply put if someone is bothering you in the store tell them to stop. if they dont locate your nearest payphone and call the police and tell them you were harrased by everyone in the store. odds are IF a cop shows up to take a report then you might get your merchandise safely and quickly with no interruptions as the cop questions the custoemrs and employees.
3- if anyone grabs something from your hand prior to you purchasing it...no matter what age, snatch it back. if it was a child get in the parents face and tell them to pay more attention to their children. as they should not be running wild or loose in places like gaming stores.
4- get over yourself. there are many places where people will see a woman walk in alone and immediately go into "dating game" mode.
just find another store. or learn to deal with the people there.
you sound as bad as the people in the early 80's trying to say D&D was non-christian and for a cult of devil worshippers.
if you want go to your public library and find a card catalog entry for a book called "how to win friends and influence people". photocopy the reference card and give it out to people the next time that start bothering you.
while you are at it make sure you get the book and read it yourself.
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Jamurai
21 February 05 |  |
Rating: 8
'Suddenly a finger stabs down onto my book and the gentleman in front of me looks me straight in the eyes. He says, very intently: “I know more about weapons than anyone else in this store.”
I show empty hands and back up a step, saying something banal like “No problems here.”
Oh yes, stupid me. I forgot this was one of my best friends and he was just starting conversation. The gaggle of gamers LOSES it, some of them laughing so hard that they choke and gag. The clerk doubles over. Ha ha, I laugh, Yes, yes, good joke. The kindly gentleman explains that he is an expert on arms and armor in Whereverville, then pulls back his coat to show a heavy knife. You know the type, the brushed steel variety that is sold at Renaissance faires. He then makes eye contact again and in a low voice says, “If that had been a threat, you would know it.” '
Would you mind emailing me the address, name and phone number of this game store and a description of this poor guy? I', going to be travelling a lot this year and If I'm in that particular part of the country I might go and humiliate him .
My email is coltonhehr@yahoo.com
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Dave4tin
13 February 05 |  |
Rating: 10
That was wonderful!!! I found the reviews to be as funny as the story itself. I found the artical somewhat enlighting as every time my beautyful girlfriend and I go to the local store,she gets visibly adutated, then latches onto me as tightly as a barnicle to a battelship hull. That greasy socialy inept type of gamer that I see as little more than a inconvence,She sees as a genuine threat. It got so bad that I no longer ask her to go to the store with me. I am a miniture painter not a gamer however I know many gamers that don't fit the steriotype,However they are the exception NOT the rule. Please don't blame the south as I have met this type of Dingbat in every state I've visited. I'm new to computers and haven't figured out how to work the spellcheck yet.
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Zaku
07 December 04 |  |
Rating: 10
I must agree here and say in addition, I had a good laugh. I´m running a gamestore myself, and I know EXACTLY what ya mean. (And it´s not different in other countries or so, i´m from germany)
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TubbyJ
26 October 04 |  |
Rating: 10
I agree. I'm in the military and have no time or patience for the mentally inept which live in the stores. I deal with them enough in the service.
My friends like to go in and buy our stuff and play the occasional game in a store. We are hounded by the same people you describe asking us stupid questions and alls we wanna do is play our game. We don't have all our life to sit a shop and degenerate.
I just want relax and have fun, not relive 6th grade.
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Moonduck
22 October 04 |  |
Rating: 10
I've been a gamer for 20 years now, and worked in a shop part-time for a few of those years. What you describe is the honest, if unfortunate, truth. As someone has already mentioned here, the gamers that are not socially inept and would not act in such a fashion are also the ones that only hit the game store to purchase. I haven't run a game at a game store in about 7 years, and it is due almost entirely to people like this. While I am certainly enough of an ogre to tell such folk where to head, it gets tiring after a while.
The sad thing is that gaming is an inherently social hobby, you'd think the people involved would be more social as a result.
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Minigrrrl
30 September 04 |  |
Rating: 10
although some peeps might be offended by this, fact remains that gamers are, in general, some of the most socially inept people in the world. having worked in gaming stores, been a member of gaming clubs and working in the industry for almost 20 years, I still get asked if I paint toy soldiers for my boyfriend and when I explain no, I'm either gay, or the sweaty, baldy washed bioy in question asking the question tells me his mates think i'm fit, and wants to take me out, because it's so hard to find a girl that understands the hobby.(I'm almost old enough to be his mother....)...No friggin wonder...thank god for online ordering.....
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Silence
26 September 04 |  |
Rating: 10
Lo, very strict hitting the truth. I would like to read what you would write about the Games Day .
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funnymouth
30 May 04 |  |
Rating: 10
ha! that was great. i found your story and the posted comments to be painfully true of many gamers. it was mentioned that women are not the only target of such gamer types, anyone can be (though im sure boobies draw a lot of...friendly fire...). i was a "normal" gamer when i was younger but was driven away from the hobby because of the negative stereotype.
i think the stereotype is a major contributer to this "problem." many gamers are chased away by the stereotype and only those who embrace it remain, effectively reinforcing the negative view of gamers in an endless cycle. in short promoting the negative image (however true it may be) only further saturates the gaming world(s) with more of these so labeled "outcasts." so try not to promote the image or it wont ever change.
the grot pit you picked seems to be particularly depraved (i sense the mark of nugle....). get a different store; healthy gamer communities are out there.
as long as were on the topic of irritating gamers...i think one of the best (errr...the worst rather) are the guys who are always in character.
.....i am sir funnymouth, annoyer of gamers with boobs and violater of personal space.....lol, i kill me.
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Flynnster
15 March 04 |  |
Rating: 1
I have never read something so self absorbed and pathetic as this. If "gamers" bother you so much, stick to mail-order. There are a**h***s in every group of people...sometimes boorish and rude...sometimes paralyzed with social ineptitude...sometimes so full of themselves they believe they themselves are incapable of passing methane from their own bodies into the atmosphere.... Stop for just one second and think about the fact that you are the one who has the problem with this situation. Everyone is different, everyone is unique. And, if you're capable of climbing down off of your own gleaming tower, you'd realize that you're being rather elitist. My local gaming shop has the typical crew of "gamers"...some rather obnoxious that I'd really rather not hold a conversation with...but I don't condemn them as you have...By going to the store, I am *just* as much of a geek as they are. GROW UP.
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Ralantar
20 February 04 |  |
Rating: 8
Sigh, This article depressed me because it is exactly the situation I run into here. The local game store is on par with a troll's den. I have to drive and hour and a half to get to the nearest games workshop store. I swear to compare the two is like night and day. I'm a gamer and it is torture trying to find self respecting replacements whenever we loose a player. We routinely put up adds looking for new players and it boggles the mind how some of the respondents are so out of touch with reality. You're supposed to play the game, not live it!!
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Zanibar
24 January 04 |  |
Rating: 10
Over on the left coast things aren't much different. You've inspired me to write about a local legend in the SF Bay Area that is simply known as "The Psycho"
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Dedwrekka
31 December 03 |  |
Rating: 10
THe store I'm with seems to have established a way to get rid of those outcasts. Those know it alls, that acctually know nothing about what they are talking about, gradually find themselves out of the loop. People refuse to play with them, we don't talk to them, and when we do talk it's to complain about their constant abuse of miniscule or little known rules. We even made one guy get up from a table in the middle of a local turnament and leave the store (luckily he hasn't come back), but now no one has played a salamanders army in 40k for fear of inciting his presence.
Just be lucky if you havn't been to a GW Grand Tournament, plumbers crack and skin so oily that they could smother a lit match by putting it to their skin (and don't think they don't demonstrate this). It's enough to make me think of getting a liquid soap bottle, chucking it into the place, and watching them melt and scream in terror. Also thinking of bringing spackle and a trowel to fix the 'cracks' in the gameing community if you get my drift.
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Rob0362
16 October 03 |  |
Rating: 10
I loved the store It really reminds me of the mom and pop game stores as they are either in your business or they are Ice Cold and treat you like and A**hole. I usually play at a GW store and staff is right nice and Very polite and one employees wife plays and she is HOT but so many of the guys are horrible I actually feel sorry for her.
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elfinboots
12 August 03 |  |
Rating: 10
thanks for your article, You expressed the frustration that many of us feel. Another post expressed my own feelings about avoiding game stores:
"I don't want to deal with the jerks or be labeled as one of them because I like to play wargames. It's a shame really."
Now the question remains, how do I meet some normal people who alos like minature painting and wargames? Well here on the internet I have met many, but to see them in person may never happen.
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DARKANGEl 42
29 July 03 |  |
Rating: 10
Best thing to do is avoid the stores at all costs. Every time i wander in i get about fifty acne covered freaks asking me if i want to come back on a tuesday night when they can 'lock the shop'. *shudder* I now stick to buying my mini's and paints strictly on the net. Everytime i walk past a GW i think about popping in but then i think better of it and remember to look online to feed my habit
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ringsnake
22 July 03 |  |
Rating: 10
Find a different store to do your shopping at, and if you're not happy with any of the stores in your area let them know that you won't shop there and why. Then get all your stuff on the Internet. Usually stores have a high population of out of control mutants and freaks because the management of the store allows or endorses it because they'd rather have the handful of mutants who blow entire paychecks than several more normal customers that spend $50 each.
As a recovered mutant (it took years, and I'm not proud of what I was) I can shed some light on what they are. Most of them have Auspergers or ADD, and most of them come from dysfunctional homes. Usually the sort of home where people are emotionally distant. If you find yourself being forced to deal with them know the characteristics of Auspergers and you'll know how to cope with the average gamer-mutant.
Finally, there's this: http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail?ifilmid=220487
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Stormreaver
21 July 03 |  |
Rating: 7
Heheh I know that kind of gamer.. Fortunately, GW kicks out the worst, smelliest beardy weirdies before they attract flies. Still, the bit about female gamers attracting embarrasing numbers of pickup attempts is definitely true..
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Mr. Yao
18 July 03 |  |
Rating: 10
Wow. I didn't realize that such people existed in real life. Those people from your hobby shop must be the epitome of the 'gamer' stereotype. I personally, paint and play Warhammer 40,000 with a nice group of friends that I can identify with, in that they are not game-crazy fanatics with no lives. We put our best efforts into our academic and athletic careers, have thriving relationships with both genders, as well as put time into community-based endeavors. Though it is difficult to assume complete gender-equality in any circumstance (as this is our society), I, along with my friends behave equally well-mannered, (if not better) in the prescence of female friends. I do not identify with the 'gamer' personality, as I merely take painting and playing as a hobby in my leisure time. In fact, I despise this type of person, as it is these people who are useless and despicable parts of not only this community, but also society in general. If the hobby were be rid of these mendicants and losers, than maybe it would not be synonymous with them. I hate gamers as well. Amen.
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belsthar
24 June 03 |  |
Rating: 10
First of all, may I express my utmost sympathy for you; I also am from New York transplanted to the hellhole that is North Carolina. Anyway, from the community I'm currently emersed in, I would have to say that your particular store is far from the norm... although it could be that my local few groups are on the accelerated of the two gamer-evolution paths.
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templartau
18 June 03 |  |
Rating: 10
LOL!!! I was laughing the whole way through! Im definately printing this out.
Anyways, know what you mean. I play warhammer 40k and magic the gathering and so interact with the gamer community alot. I used to hang out at the local Wizards Of The Coast store every weekend. Yes there were some wierd people there. But on a whole from what i have seen the gamer community has been open and friendly. At gamesworkshop everyone is friendly and your opponents will willingly give you input on how to better your army and such. I think you just have a store that attracts alot of mean and tortured people. im gonna give this a 10 because it was so funny. And my friend who is a harcore magic the gathering maniac lives on mountain dew and doritoes.
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Xtapl
17 June 03 |  |
Rating: 10
Ah, yes...but you're missing one of the greatest atrocities of all:
The armchair general.
I believe it is seen as the divine right of all male counterparts in a two-gamer relationship to stand immediately behind their female partner and question/cajole/give advice on/make fun of/countermand every single manuever or decision they make. I have literally seen women give up trying to strategize on their own rather than deal with a public fight with their significant other about them not shutting the F up.
I'm often tempted to ask the male half if they would like to jump in and play instead, since they're obviously very interested in what's going on in the game...
Great article.
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Chaplain Desmodus
16 June 03 |  |
Rating: 10
Thanks for cheering me up! 
This hobby does attract social freaks for some odd reason. Luckily, most gamers are reasonably normal. The ones that are not are horrendous, unfortunately! The hackers I met at my old university were quite similar in many ways, hehe. 
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JakeSh
09 June 03 |  |
Rating: 10
So true, so true. I always try to make it known that I just paint, I don't play.
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Dragonsreach
09 June 03 |  |
Rating: 10
I found I had a new 'best friend' on Saturday.
Whilst he was clean and odour free, he obviously has no concept of personal space. Seeing that I was there to 'play' he believed it was his absolute right to inspect the contents of the toolcase I use to transport figures.
Having emerged from inspecting my army he decided that he was obliged to tell me that I'd painted my Sisters of Battle army wrong (I created my own order), poorly and that SOB's were a weak army. I was polite, listened for ten minutes to his pontification, it felt like an hour.
Then, with him looming over my shoulder, like some oversized bespectacled limpet, I proceded to prove the worth of Seraphim squads in Assault phases.
He passed a comment about just luck.
At this point I told him to just "Please, Go away now!" very quietly and using those exact words. (There were young children & mothers in the store otherwise I would have been more exact.)
As he then didn't quite get the point of my being polite, he passed some crytical comment about my poor painting standard just as my dear wife returned from shopping to hear him.
She very coldly (try with Arctic contempt) advised him that I'd been a finalist Twice in Golden Demon and that a great many of the figures in the store cabinet had been painted by me, at the request of the manager.
She then asked him what he had he ever achieved other than the limited ability to chew gum and defecate?
He left very soon after that!
(My wife's tongue should be considered a lethal weapon sometimes.)
So, Otter you have my sympathy, and of course appreciation for your article. As this can happen to a male in a store. It's all too true!! Many thanks..
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Panza
02 June 03 |  |
Rating: 9
Happens all over, even in jolly old England, but the natural British reserve usually converts the all out shouting to murmured babbling and shuffling off in the opposite direction. My personal bane is the little kids who think I'm too old (32) to be in 'their' store, and GW store managers who, almost to a man, are so wrapped up in their own personal power trips that they can't see that they're behaving like complete a**holes. Must be genetic!
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biggeek
24 May 03 |  |
Rating: 10
Funny, acurate for some, um, even most I would guess. I don't play much but I do goto the stores.
I can understand your pain.
You must write more.... please
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Bacillus
17 May 03 |  |
Rating: 10
Rock-solid vision of the typical game store experience.
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Papa Smurf
15 May 03 |  |
Rating: 9
A very witty and enjoyable read. I am something of a closet wargamer myself because of the stereo type you just described. I would love to meet more decent people who share my new found hobby, but I don't want to deal with the jerks or be labeled as one of them because I like to play wargames. It's a shame really. It's good, clean fun but people shy away because of the jerk factor.
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Muzza
30 April 03 |  |
Rating: 10
Oh yeah, we get em down-under aswell.
I've found that most gamers are nice pleasant people, unfortunately the jerks stand out in the crowd.
Very funny article, I'll have to show it to my wife.
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Davida G.
26 April 03 |  |
Rating: 10
Hallelujah! I feel your pain. I am lucky that my husband is a (good/decent) gamer and normally when we go to the game shop, we are together. But there is always at least one sleaze bag who homes in on breasts and starts to act like a fool as soon as my husband is more than 3 feet away from my side.
I also play table top war games from time to time. One day my husband and I where walking into a game shop to hit the gaming room (had a scheduled game against a friend) and I had my figure cases and what not, and the moment I walked in there where shouts of "Hey man HOW did you get you chick to carry you stuff?" and "Holy crap, there's a chick in the game room!" you would think I had defiled their *space* by entering their privet sanctum. Needless to say they where mighty disturbed when I proceeded to kick my friends butt at their own game.
It happens all the time ::rolls eyes::
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Tirnan
24 April 03 |  |
Rating: 10
Loved it. Sad but it is at times true. It is also why many of us adults go in to buy, but play in our homes instead of the store. I'm starting to wonder if someone bottles a deodorant spray that smells like old laundry.
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dauber22
23 April 03 |  |
Rating: 10
The underwear analogy alone is worth the read!
Please, though, don't blame social ineptitude on just gamers. I've run grocery stores, drug stores, arts& crafts stores and electronics stores and, believe it or not, they've ALL attracted a certain amount of these losers - people who have to "hang out" with captive audiences to be able to say they have "friends"
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AAvHDarkblade
22 April 03 |  |
Rating: 9
Terrible and, beyond the extremes, probably not completely uncommon. I would try a different store if available. Otherwise have a good discussion with the Manager with your boyfriend and perhaps your cop friend present. Informing him about harassment and weapons laws might help.
Find a new venue, all the gamers I know are well educated, well groomed, pleasant people, with good jobs; lawyer, engineers, excutives, etc. They set a good example, as does the manager in our local store, for all the young'uns who occassionally get out of hand.
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razortoy
22 April 03 |  |
Rating: 10
Spectacular job of proving her point...
Sad but true analysis of the gamer that hangs out at the game store. The thing you miss is that most of "those" people that hang out there all day are there because their social skills are so poor that is the only human contact they have. Those of us with social skills hang out with our friends, rather than some place that pays people to be their friends.
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i am osirus
22 April 03 |  |
Rating: 10
well written and i agree totally that it can be like that ....however i feel that your a painting us all with the same brush (pardon the pun) there are alot of gamers out there that aren't socially inept ....
and of course, accept my condolences on the bad experiences you have had in your local store ..you oughta go to a doctor about the pizza odour coming from your boil ^_-
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Avicenna
22 April 03 |  |
Rating: 10
Perfect! What can I say!! I may be male, but have been there, seen that and worn the T-shirt!
Hopefully I fall into your boyfriend-type gamer category, but you never know... maybe it creeps up on you!
And I have to say, that I worked in retail for a certain large gaming company for a good few years and had just about managed to create a haven for the rest of us 'normal people', indeed using a hard-bound book and the red plastic measuring sticks found in certain 'games'...
But alas, I had to move on, and it appears the rabble have taken back what I had once called my own Although the odd overheard comment like 'oh god... Pete's coming' or 'Snori's beard, he's back... lets go' is always suprisingly satisfying!
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Cenobyte
22 April 03 |  |
Rating: 10
hm... funny. really. but... i am a gamer too. BOOH!
i am 20, i know how to wash and shave myself, i know how to change clothes, i have these... "manners"-things and stuff. just wanted to tell you.
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DeepDarkSecret
21 April 03 |  |
Rating: 5
Your thing was well written, but I've been a gamer since I was ten years old, and I am 18 now, and I have very good Hygiene. I don't drink cokes, and munch on snacks at night or during the day for that matter in my basement, tho that is where all my gaming stuff is, it does not control my life. And for the most part I don't see how you can say all of this unless North Carolina is just that shitty of a place, or it's just that store. Where I come from Female Gamers is a treasured thing, not a mockery... I'm sorry you've had such a horrible experiance with the lame gamers of your store, but I must say, not all gamers are like that, and I hate stareotypes..
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Prophet
21 April 03 |  |
Rating: 10
Amen sister.
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vincegamer
21 April 03 |  |
Rating: 8
Thanks for assuming the best of us, but if you really believe the majority of gamers are like that, the kind assumption makes no sense.
Anyway, as you said you are a writer you may like some litereary critique instead of sympathy.
I enjoyed your story but it has a few stumblers:
I don't have a clue what "DC challenge rating" means and wonder what percent of readers knows.
Wearing rancid oilcloth is another one lost on me, but that may be more me than actual narrow jargon.
This line: "they are focused on the gentleman in front of me recite facts and figures" should probably be "reciting facts...." or "as he recites...."
Using your boyfriend as a deodorant? Perhaps you meant deterrant? or deflector? How would he make them smell better?
Those things aside I found it an enjoyable story (especially the analogy to underwear - good laugh there) and look forward to more of your contributions. Published anything?
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