Conan: Hyborian Quests

gohkm

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I was really looking forward to this, until the company said they were only going to manufacture miniatures in PVC. That's me out.
 

robtion

New member
I was really looking forward to this, until the company said they were only going to manufacture miniatures in PVC. That's me out.

I had not heard that. Does it male a big difference to the quality?

I am a big fan of Conan (the original Robert E Howard stories in particular) so I will remain optimistic ;)
 

gohkm

Active member
PVC is generally very hard to work with. Have you worked with Mantic restic models before? It is like that. The game developers have already said that they aren't taking a miniatures oriented view, so miniatures material is not of concern to them.

It's a shame, but they must do what they think is best.

They've also said that Early Birds are purely monetary, not some exclusive models.
 

gohkm

Active member
Sculpts are not the issue. The material is. Demoulding, in particular. I bought in big on Sedition Wars and Deadzone, both of which put out big quantities of restic. I found it very hard to clean up the mouldlines, enough miscasts for me to go back to Mantic for replacements, and to go through 50+ models like that, I simply do not have the stamina.

Compare that to Prodos stuff, which are remarkably clean casts, I would stick to resin any time. Or, to compare plastics, I would happily deal with the HIPS put up by Dust Tactics.

After so much pain and disappointment , anything manufactured in PVC is a no-go zone for me.
 

Bailey03

Well-known member
That's a shame to hear, they had some neat looking concepts. On the other hand its good news for my wallet, it could use a break from all these kickstarter projects.
 

WhelpSlayer

New member
Hi guys, my name is Jamie, I'm the community manager for Monolith and the Conan project.

It seems you guys have got the totally wrong idea about our models as well as our priorities, let me clear it all up for you ;)

The game developers have already said that they aren't taking a miniatures oriented view, so miniatures material is not of concern to them.

This is entirely untrue, I can only speculate as to where you read this kind of nonsense. If it was indeed someone from Monolith that posted this then it is waaaay out of context, probably due to their English skills, which aren't always the best ;)

We have ALWAYS wanted the best models possible for this game. We wouldn't of spent as much as we have on sculptors if we intended to just muck it up with cheap production values after.

Also, as one die-hard model fanatic to another, I have always pushed for the best material possible and I whole heartedly believe that that is what we've got!

We are far above the dreaded Mantic "restic", yes, we are using PVC however I feel their are a lot of misconceptions nowadays concerning this material. Using high grade plastic and advanced moulding processes you can get some great results, just look at what Dust: Tactics and The Others have done. Our models will be the same high quality as theirs. We've even gone lengths to ensure that the master models accounted for some of the known setbacks encountered with PVC moulding.

As far as working with PVC goes, I have a few Dust: Tactics models in my collection (Bazooka Joe is currently sitting on my workstation) and I have never had a problem with painting them, removing mould line (not that there's many of those) or anything else.

Lets scale things back a bit though. PVC is not resin or metal but you have to remember this is a board game. Using those two materials is impossible. Metal would make the retail box far too heavy and resin is way too fragile, half the models would arrive broken, creating a customer/replacement service nightmare. It's also for these reasons that we don't have plans yet for a resin model add-on/pledge.

We have to work within the constraints of the industry however that won't stop us from reaching one of our goals: Having the best models ever seen in a board game!

Hope that helps, if you guys have any other questions then please feel free to post them and I'll do my best to respond!

In the mean time, for those that haven't seen it yet:


Peace.
 

gohkm

Active member
It is always possible due to language issues. Thanks for clearing that up. I have a couple of Dust models myself, and they are not too bad. If your production quality is of such calibre, I would be very happy to be proven wrong.

Do you intend to make a miniatures only pledge? Or taking that further, a resin miniatures only pledge?
 

WhelpSlayer

New member
It is always possible due to language issues. Thanks for clearing that up. I have a couple of Dust models myself, and they are not too bad. If your production quality is of such calibre, I would be very happy to be proven wrong.

Do you intend to make a miniatures only pledge? Or taking that further, a resin miniatures only pledge?

My pleasure :)

For the moment, there are no plans for a mini only pledge. The major problem being that due to amount of investment that has not only gone in to the minis themselves but also the game that is built around them, if we were do to a pledge like this it's cost would be unfairly high compared to the price of the full boxed game. This may however change, anything is possible during the campaign and I would like to see this happen myself.

Sadly we will not be producing resin casts of the models. As much as we would like to, it is a very complicated process when it comes to quality testing, shipping and customer service. So much so that it would undermine our main objective: producing a great game and getting it shipped out, on time.
 

oistene

Active member
Whelp, can you compare the mini quality to other things we might be familiar with? Zombicide? Malifaux? Are they soft or hard?
 

gohkm

Active member
WhelpSlayer, may I suggest you head over to Dakka Dakka forums and help clear some of this up.
 

WhelpSlayer

New member
Whelp, can you compare the mini quality to other things we might be familiar with? Zombicide? Malifaux? Are they soft or hard?
The best comparison I can give you is Dust:Tactics and The Others. Concerning zombicide I can say that the details will be a lot crisper. It should achieve almost the same level of detail as Wyrd/GW.

WhelpSlayer, may I suggest you head over to Dakka Dakka forums and help clear some of this up.
I was actually there yesterday so hopefully I've already cleared up any questions however I will pop back over and check it out, Thanks Gohkm!
 

wittdooley

New member
Really looking forward to seeing what ya'll do with the campaign. The list of designers certainly gives me faith that the gameplay will be solid.

Best of luck!
 

WhelpSlayer

New member
Just a friendly reminder guys, we're going live today on Kickstarter at 1pm EST (US) - 10 am PST (US) - 7pm (GMT+1) precisely. See you there!
 

gohkm

Active member
I think this one isn't for me, but all the best! Maybe if you make it big, you will release a resin collectors edition :) ?
 
Purely for the vast number of quality minis available with the board game, it's almost like you are paying for the minis alone and the board game and it's accessories come with it for free. So a minis only deal is frankly unnecessary. Don't care to play the game? These same minis could easily sell for $10-$20 a pop, considering who sculpted them and the beauty of the sculptures. I've been nothing but impressed so far, and it's a shame so many naysayers are already putting down a product which they have never seen. Reaching funding goals in 5 hours speaks for itself, as I know many a modelers involved that have pledged. Over a million with 19 days to go...expectations exceeded....
 
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