P3 paint demo & question about technique

[Arma]

Something I found on youtube. Demo of the new P3 range from Privateer Press.

Out of interest, do many people paint like that? i.e. from the pot, to a palette then thin meaning you\'ll always painting with fresh paint.

I usually put some paint onto my palette (wet palette) and paint with it for a good 30 mins sometimes, however I do suffer from painting with paint that is drying out and get some brush streaks... I guess his way is better tbh! Might get a little annoying when painting with mixes I guess?

Here\'s the video

 

[Ritual]

I don\'t thin the paint on my pallette very much. Instead I use a moist brush so that I can vary the thickness without mixing new paint. As the paint thickens on the pallette I increase the moisture of the brush to withhold the same consistency of the paint.

 

[lahatiel]

Thanks for the link -- I was at GenCon SoCal but was so busy taking the painting classes that I never had time for the P3 demos that Privateer was doing at their booth, so this was very cool to see! As for the technique, I can\'t really comment because all my paint is in dropper bottles so the \"back to the pot every time\" method isn\'t really an option for me. *shrug*

Perhaps the Forums\' own LeopardPixie might grace us with some thoughts about using P3 paints, too, if she ever happens to read this thread -- the lucky girl managed to win a pair of P3 paint kits in a raffle!

 

[diddy lemon1]

what mini is that it looks like fun to paint

 

[james sequeira]

Diddy check out privateer press they have some awesome minis and some really good female sculpts possibly some of the best

 

[Arma]

Yeah I love PP stuff. I\'m Menoth and Cryx are too cool. For Horde, Skorne.

The IK RPG minis are also great..

 

[lahatiel]

Originally posted by Arma
The IK RPG minis are also great..

Indeed. My disappointing moment at GCSC was when I did get a minute to run by the PP, with the sole intention of grabbing a couple of the IK figs, it turned out they didn\'t have any there -- they\'d only brought WM and Hordes stuff.

 

[Hinton]

I use dropper bottles, so I mix all of my paint on the pallette. Painting the way shown in the video seems to work pretty well, though.

 

[Bill]

Wow, that guy can paint fast! These paints look great, but I won\'t be buying any paints other than GW until all my current paints run out or dry up. Why? Because I\'m poor

 

[Einion]

FWIW painting out of the bottle isn\'t a good idea as a rule. It\'s fine for a quick bit here on there but I would strongly recommend people not to do it habitually.

Originally posted by Bill
...I won\'t be buying any paints other than GW until all my current paints run out or dry up. Why? Because I\'m poor

No better reason

Einion

 

[Ritual]

Originally posted by Einion
FWIW painting out of the bottle isn\'t a good idea as a rule. It\'s fine for a quick bit here on there but I would strongly recommend people not to do it habitually.

Yeah, I also wouldn\'t recommend it for longer painting sessions. I used to when I was younger and it made the paints dry out faster and also helped building up dried paint around the opening and where the lid seal off the pot when closed.

 

[supervike]

egads, I wish Martin Scorcese wouldn\'t zoom in and move around like he is trying to film a rap video....Interesting, but hard to watch!

 

[Avelorn]

Yeah he\'s fast I just painted a Gobbo for rackham though in an hour, came out okay. Maybe should have snapped a picture of it.

I\'m very interested in this colour.. especially the liquid pigment part. Could be a bless!

 

[DrClarke]

I\'ve a question or two about this. It\'s actually nice to see some \'live footage\'. Reading static articles always seems to leave some potential for confusion in my painting life.

At 1:35 in the video, he moves on to another figure in which the red is done and dried.

At 1:50\'ish we can see him applying, what we\'ll simply call orange for the sake of my question, to the hardline highlight areas. The artist keeps taking an extra brush that he\'s holding in his mouth and he goes over his freshly painted hard orange line.

My question: is this one of the feathering techniques I\'ve always heard/read about? If it is, the concept seems simple enough, but I\'m sure that actual application takes some goodly amount of practice.

My next question: does the artist, when he uses the paint brush from his mouth to smooth out the hard line of orange, dip it on fresh clean water each time? Is it a brush loaded with water or more along the lines of just enough water to keep things moist? (the video makes it challenging at best to see this.)

Thanks!

~doc clarke

 

[Avelorn]

Yes it\'s feathering. It takes some practice but is fairly straight forward. Just remember to feather small parts at a time (or use a large brush on places like cloaks) and stop when you see the paint starts drying. A thing you can use to help as with wet-blending is a medium that delays the drying time, but I seldom use that anymore except with wetblending. And I use a moist brush, it should not be loaded with water as that will give less control.

 

[DaRat]

I think that most beginners will paint straight from the pot (and without the moist brush thinning that Ritual does).

Probably works for the Painter in the video partly because he has access to fresh pots of paint (as an employee), paints quite a bit (so gets fresh pots fairly frequently anyway), and is trying to highlight the \"you can paint from the pot\" aspect of the paint.

Seemed to be applied pretty thickly to me, but the already painted minis seemed to have a fairly smooth coat anyway.

I did notice that the one thread that was complaining about P3 paints on the PP forums disappeared a few hours after it was first posted. So, at least on the PP press forums, it seems that you\'ll only hear good things.

 

[Avelorn]

Originally posted by DaRat
I did notice that the one thread that was complaining about P3 paints on the PP forums disappeared a few hours after it was first posted. So, at least on the PP press forums, it seems that you\'ll only hear good things.

They do that too? well well.. You don\'t remember what they complained on?

 

[farseerlum]

the paint looks pretty thick and gluggy when you add a fair amount of water. but it does not feel that way on the brush. it really helps for fast painting.
it dries no thicker than normal paint and covers smoothly.

you can be pretty sure anything fluffy painted recently is done mostly in P3 paints. they are more than capable of producing high grade paint jobs.

i\'m not sure on the thread you say was deleted. i have a feeling it was by request of the thread originator. there seems to be a thread of mild apology and thanks for the help he recieved to help his painting currently in modeling and miniatures.

pp has never locked a thread that wasn\'t breaking the rules, ie religion politics flaming etc. if a thread is just a rant it will probably be moved to the crows nest however.

as a side note i believe Ron Kruzie was the painter doing the demos at gencon.

 

[SJB]

Given the discussions on P3 I\'ve read so far it was probably someone complaining about the lack of dropper bottles (personal choice really) or that they\'re just repackaged Coat\'d\'arms/old citadel. They\'re not. They just happen to have been developed by the same manufacturer. It\'s kind of like saying a McLaren Mercedes F1 car has the same engine as a Mercedes road car simply because they are both manufactured by Mercedes.

Personally I like what I\'ve experienced using P3. Lovely paints and I look forward to trying them out more once I\'ve shifted my current health problems.

 

[james sequeira]

Im definatly going for the merc and cygnar sets (throws a smile at the exhange rate)