A Couple of New Ones

Wren

Member
I\'ve got a couple of new ones up, both experiments in mixing my own darker skin tones. Both are also experiments in improving my picture taking. I think the colour in these is more accurate than my previous photos. Comments on either area (or anything else) are very welcome!

Wise Queen 2007

Leopardskin Chief
 

airhead

Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
Your skintones and transitions are nearly flawless. I give up. How are you doing it? Microscope and juicing with 100 layers?
 

supervike

Super Moderator
Dark flesh can be a challenge, but you have really nailed it Wren!

Of course, I\'m not really surprised by that fact, but I am still impressed.

We should expect these sorts of things from an Iron Painter Champion!
 

Hinton

New member
Very nice pieces, Wren, with some amazing skin tones.

Originally posted by Wren
Both are also experiments in improving my picture taking. I think the colour in these is more accurate than my previous photos. Comments on either area (or anything else) are very welcome!

Out of curiosity, what experiments did you do with these photos to get accurate colors?
 

Avelorn

Sven Jonsson
Both are great work! very smooth blending and yeah the skintones are good as well.

Overall what you could improve is a tad more contrast to them and a bit more work on the tonalities... The best way to get a grasp for what colours you can use is to study traditional canvas art. Generally things like blues and greenish tints in shadows of the skin are more clear as it has been painted.
 

Wren

Member
Thanks a bunch for the comments everyone, they\'re much appreciated!

@airhead - I do use a high magnification Optivisor. I got bifocals this year, but they\'re pretty weak and I really wish I\'d asked for stronger correction.

I paint a bit thinner than some painters I\'ve seen, but from the descriptions I\'ve read my paint is definitely thicker than juices for most stuff. Most of my gray based NMM is done by glazing down the shadows with thin layers that is probably similar to juicing. (I will confess that I haven\'t taken the time to study this hot new technique enough yet!)

I do probably 3-5 mixes to go down in the shadows, going a few layers with each, and 4-7 on highlights, depending on the colour and so on. The pale green cloak on the one figure started light and had probably 8 or more mixes of shadows and only 3 or so highlights, but the shadow colour tended towards streaky.

After taking classes with Jeremie and studying his techniques over the past year or so I am starting to be able to work with much thicker paint than I have in the past and still get transitions I can be satisfied with, but I don\'t think I had the brush control to do that a few years ago.

@Hinton - I went back and played with custom white balance again. I had done that when I got the camera, but I had not gone back and done it after I changed what I do in Photoshop. I also bump up the exposure compensation a notch or two to brighten the images, my pictures were a little on the dark side and losing some details I think.

@funnymouth - finally got a ruler and the fig here together. He is intended to be standard RPG fig size (28, heroic, whatever we\'re calling it these days) I think. He comes in at about 34mm to the top of his head. He\'s sculpted by Tom Meier, who goes for something more proportional and realistic looking, so he might look a little thin next to very bulky figures of a similar height.

@Avelorn - Thanks for the tips! Contrast is really an on-going challenge for me, and colour\'s become a new one as I try to get a little more complex with it.
 

demonherald

New member
I love both pieces the second one was one of my stand out favourites in TT just such a great subject and currently something I am researching for some historical pieces I am cutting my teeth on.

I agree with the comments about maybe pushing the contrasts a little more with other colours but at the sametime I wouldn\' like to see your style change too much because I really like it and enjoy every new piece from you...

Avelorns tip about studying canvas art is a really good one and where possible do it in the flesh. Purples and green/blues are used a ot as shading colours.. only in smallish amounts but enough to make a difference.
 

freakinacage

Well-known member
two very nice pieces. i prefer the first but both are great! i have also started using pastels for grounds work - great aren\'t they?!
 
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