Blue is a slut!

[vincegamer]

Okay, so I\'m painting a nice pattern in simple colors: Blue, Red & Yellow.

I paint the red, no prob. Then the white on top. Then I paint the blue, with the white on top. White looks a bit bluish, but it\'s on top of blue so that\'s to be expected. Then the yellow ink on top of the white. Fine with red but the blue starts sliding into the yellow. Then I realize the blue is just bleeding into everything.
Okay, it\'s an ink, maybe it\'s too wet. Thin paint layer ought to fix that up.
Wrong.
Too wet?
Dry 30+ hours - dab of white paint -bam- turns blue.
Maybe dullcoating first then adding white?
The blue bleeds into the sealer!
That blue can\'t keep to itself; it just keeps jumping into bed with every other color, the slut.

:flame:
Anyone have similar experience or tips?

 

[green stuff]

I once new a girl called Blue ... oops, sorry wrong subject .

Are you sure you\'re using acrylics? Normally they dry pretty quick. Or maybe it\'s too cold where you\'re painting.

What kind of white are you using?

 

[supervike]

So, are you saying you\'ve got the blues?

 

[vincegamer]

Originally posted by green stuffAre you sure you\'re using acrylics? Normally they dry pretty quick.

Temperature is not a problem.
Mostly I am using Vallejo Model Colours, but also blue and white india inks.
It was vallejo white after the 30 hour dry time.

 

[PF]

A shame Blue has erased her account without reading the whole topic...

 

[green stuff]

Message original : vincegamerTemperature is not a problem.
Mostly I am using Vallejo Model Colours, but also blue and white india inks.
It was vallejo white after the 30 hour dry time.

That sounds wierd. I use Citadel (yes, shame on me ) and they completely dry on the mini after a minute or two. What about going the other way arround : yellow, then red, then blue. Doing so, you don\'t need to use white.

Oh, and why use an ink?

 

[Brokenblade]

Yes i have had the EXACT same problem, i also dont know what to do about it ??? so atleast your not alone. but yes please does anyone have any tips (this is using gw paints btw)

Joe

 

[vincegamer]

Originally posted by green stuff
That sounds wierd. I use Citadel (yes, shame on me ) and they completely dry on the mini after a minute or two.

I wasn\'t clear there. I used GW yellow ink. I tried glazing GW blue ink on top of my blue area then letting it dry and painting the white on but it bled anyway.

What about going the other way arround : yellow, then red, then blue. Doing so, you don\'t need to use white.

Well, watch the RR administered by TAB thread in discuss submissions and you will soon see why I do it this way. I\'m crazy enough already to do it at all but I\'d be crazier to put the blue and red on top.
(mysteeeeerious)

The last thing I\'ve done is put some blue ink into flat varnish and glazed the top. If I have a chance tonight I\'ll see if the varnish holds it better.

 

[TAB Studio]

Have you tried a matt sealer in between coats maybe a few of these will keep the wild one in control.

 

[freakinacage]

are you using any retarder? because the stuff i use says that it doesn\'t dry if you add more than 1 drop in 10 paint.just an idea

 

[vincegamer]

Originally posted by TAB Studio
Have you tried a matt sealer in between coats maybe a few of these will keep the wild one in control.

Well, that\'s why I did the glaze I mentioned. I tried to do a matt sealer and the blue bled into the sealer!

 

[TAB Studio]

well maybe a coat of epoxy???
desperate times call for desperate measures

 

[EricJ]

see! this is why I don\'t use blue, except for those desperate times

actually I was just thinking about it to try to figure if I have had similar experiences and realized I really almost never use blue.

 

[Modo]

I have tried something similar 6 months ago, when I painted some blue. It just kept falling off if I just gave it the lightest touch.

I discovered later that my problem were that I had forgot to mix the paint before I used it - It can really be bad if it is GW \'Regal Blue\'
My second problem were that I also had thinned the paint too much, so really, just one single touch and the paint would be on your finger instead of the mini. Luckily I have never made the same mistake again.

 

[Ebonbuddha]

I\'ve never had that problem with Vallejo. I have used blue and I have used inks. Maybe your ink is affecting the paint someway. Maybe you had a bad bottle of paint. When I started painting again I had to get all of my supplies from Malaysia when I was on holiday. The paint I bought bled everywhere. I ordered a new bottle og Vallejo and it was fine. I don\'t know why it would do it after 30 hours of drying.???

 

[green stuff]

Message original : vincegamer
Well, watch the RR administered by TAB thread in discuss submissions and you will soon see why I do it this way.

Sorry, I went through the end of the thread and didn\'t find the mini you\'re talking about. Could you post a link to a pic of it? And I must be missing something, but what is the gain of doing a color only with inks? Why not use normal acrylics and finish it off with inks?

 

[SaxonAngel]

You are not alone...

This same problem was discussed in a thread awhiles back.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/viewthread.php?tid=3429

FYI I\'m still having the same problems. This time with a heap of Ultramarines I\'ve been stuck painting.

 

[Chrispy]

Since blue is such a dark color, it\'s usually made different from other bright colors..(some cheap paint comapnies make a very dark blue and sell it as \"black\") Also, it could be that as humans we see more green than any color, so you\'re just keying in on it looking slightly green at times. I haven\'t had any trouble myself, in the 7 years I\'ve paintied with it.. Red hates me more, the hag..

 

[vincegamer]

That would be really odd if my eye was just keying in the line of green slowly spreading across the white fleur-de-lis.

 

[BloodiedFangs]

i\'ve had similar problems with GW liche purple and midnight and enchanted blue...tho not so much on the mini. if i mix a new colour on an area of my palette (ok, i\'ll admit...old dried up GW paintpots), then it tends to bleed into the new colour, even if its been dry for months. i think its just a porblem with the pigments. possibly the binder just doesn\'t hold them in place properly. simple solution: paint blue as early as you can and make sure you surround it with dark greys and blacks. i won\'t bleed noticeably into these colours for some reason, and you can just paint over \'em later. its kinda like topicla sealer, i guess