English is a foreign language
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Shawn R. L.
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BWAAA HA HA HA HA!!!
One I have been curious about is: What\'s the origin of \'blimey\' (bly - me). Is it short for something?
Ebonbuddha
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Yeah. That is what I was thinking Supervike. I have never heard it used as reference to a slut.
Originally posted by supervike
I wouldn\'t have categorized a \"wench\" the same as a \"slut\". Maybe the US version is different in other parts of the country, but a WENCH is just an evil, ornery woman, Like a bitch, just less cursy.
Now a WRENCH is what I believe you UKers call a SPANNER....so, there you go.
Ebonbuddha
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I have never heard that. Eben when I talk to people from other parts of the US they say wench and a mean woman.
vincegamer
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This isn\'t quite the same sort of mix-up, but it\'s another regional thing:
When I moved to New York, I couldn\'t get when they said it was \"ten of five\" or \"five of eleven\" or that sort.
(I always thought \"seven of nine\" was a sexy Borg, but turns out she\'s just a time of day.)
The question was whether \"of\" meant before or after. Took me weeks to figure that out.
When I moved to New York, I couldn\'t get when they said it was \"ten of five\" or \"five of eleven\" or that sort.
(I always thought \"seven of nine\" was a sexy Borg, but turns out she\'s just a time of day.)
The question was whether \"of\" meant before or after. Took me weeks to figure that out.
vincegamer
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What\'s with top notch, beknighted grand old actors in England doing cheesy sci-fi big budget films?
First there was Dame Judy Dench in Chronicles of Riddik.
Now Sir Derek Jacobi (always Claudius to me) in Underworld: Evolution.
This does not bode well for the Oscar crowd.
I\'ts worse than when Olivier did Clash of the Titans (though possibly not as bad as Brando in Superman)
First there was Dame Judy Dench in Chronicles of Riddik.
Now Sir Derek Jacobi (always Claudius to me) in Underworld: Evolution.
This does not bode well for the Oscar crowd.
I\'ts worse than when Olivier did Clash of the Titans (though possibly not as bad as Brando in Superman)
This is pretty region-specific, but out here, \"Chili\" seems to refer to pretty much any sauce with chilis in it. So, you would say \"Chili\" when referring to Hot Salsa, Tobasco, etc., not just Chili stew. I haven\'t been able to figure out if that\'s general 4-corners or specific to the Navajo reservation and some of its border towns.
Rez. English is pretty cool in itself. You can \"chop woods,\" or \"get your monies.\" And if you ask when a store is going to open, you will likely be told something like; \"They\'ll open till 11.\" First few times I heard that I found myself asking; \"you mean it\'s open until 11, then it\'s closing?\' But no, \"till\" can actually be used to indicate a start time out here.
\"...is it?\" (A common way of asking \"really?\")
Rez. English is pretty cool in itself. You can \"chop woods,\" or \"get your monies.\" And if you ask when a store is going to open, you will likely be told something like; \"They\'ll open till 11.\" First few times I heard that I found myself asking; \"you mean it\'s open until 11, then it\'s closing?\' But no, \"till\" can actually be used to indicate a start time out here.
\"...is it?\" (A common way of asking \"really?\")
There is the use of the words dock and pier to think of. It is just a little fuel to add to the fire in the great war against the cheeseheads.
Yes we here know that a dock is the space in the water and a pier is the thing that juts out into the water. but here most of us just call it a dock. A pier is one of those things that is a perminate sturtar and the big ship dock too..
Yes we here know that a dock is the space in the water and a pier is the thing that juts out into the water. but here most of us just call it a dock. A pier is one of those things that is a perminate sturtar and the big ship dock too..
Dragon Forge Design
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Ah then you need to come to cincinnati where chili is something even more bizzar.. its served on top of a plate full of spagetti with a huge pile of cheese on top of it. Skiline Chili
when I first moved to cincinnati in 91, they made a big deal about taking me out for chili.. when it was put in front of me I was like what the hell is this LOL
vincegamer
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Whoa there. You\'re living on the Navajo reservation?
(note, the term reservation is a misnomer as the land was not \"set aside\" by the US government for the Navajo, but was actually recognized as Navajo property in our treaty with Spain)
That\'s cool.
(note, the term reservation is a misnomer as the land was not \"set aside\" by the US government for the Navajo, but was actually recognized as Navajo property in our treaty with Spain)
That\'s cool.
Yeah, it\'s an interesting area. I don\'t live on the rez. anymore, but I commute out to Tuba City from Flagstaff. So, I still work there.
At the risk of going off-topic a bit, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo isn\'t the controlling document for the Navajo Nation. It\'s the Navajo Treaty of 1868. Kit Carson was ordered to \"round up\" the Navajo people in 1864, which he did by applying Sherman\'s tactics to Canyon de Chelley (beautiful place; I used to work out in that area), burning crops and destroying houses. What followed was 4 years of internment at Fort Sumner, New Mexico, and then a treaty negotiated between General Sherman and a Navajo leader, named Barboncito (it\'s interesting, the treaty negotions actually show evidence that Barboncito was trying to bind Sherman with a kind of prayer during their talk). That\'s what established the initial reservation, and it pretty well supercedes the treaty of GH (which I doubt would have dealt with Navajo lands anyway, though I\'m not sure; it certainly specified the boundaries of the original spanish land grants as Pueblo lands.) But of course, we have to take these terms with a grain of salt anyway. \"Reservation\" is a common enough usage, I tend to use it in contexts like this. When speaking to Navajos I am more likely to refer to it as Navajo Nation territory, and in talking with cultural nationalists and traditionalists, we are more likely to say \"Diné Bikeyah.\"
At the risk of going off-topic a bit, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo isn\'t the controlling document for the Navajo Nation. It\'s the Navajo Treaty of 1868. Kit Carson was ordered to \"round up\" the Navajo people in 1864, which he did by applying Sherman\'s tactics to Canyon de Chelley (beautiful place; I used to work out in that area), burning crops and destroying houses. What followed was 4 years of internment at Fort Sumner, New Mexico, and then a treaty negotiated between General Sherman and a Navajo leader, named Barboncito (it\'s interesting, the treaty negotions actually show evidence that Barboncito was trying to bind Sherman with a kind of prayer during their talk). That\'s what established the initial reservation, and it pretty well supercedes the treaty of GH (which I doubt would have dealt with Navajo lands anyway, though I\'m not sure; it certainly specified the boundaries of the original spanish land grants as Pueblo lands.) But of course, we have to take these terms with a grain of salt anyway. \"Reservation\" is a common enough usage, I tend to use it in contexts like this. When speaking to Navajos I am more likely to refer to it as Navajo Nation territory, and in talking with cultural nationalists and traditionalists, we are more likely to say \"Diné Bikeyah.\"
Shawn R. L.
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I have been to Tuba city. How could I ever forget a name like that one.
The genocide that was practiced on the Indians was unbelievable. Custer got what was comming to him. Wish it would have happened alot more.
Yeah, Tuba City is interesting. I\'m still getting used to it as I was recently transferred from the middle of the rez. I\'m actually luke warm on the Battle of Greasy Grass. Custer got a lot of people pointlessly killed that day, both his own soldiers (who deserved more competent leadership) and the Indians he was attacking (who didn\'t deserve to be attacked at all). I read somewhere (probably Black Elk or John Stands-In-Timber) that there was no celebration in the Indian camps that night. I always try to keep that in mind when I\'m tempted to view it as a great Indian victory. At the time, it was viewed as anything but. Now the Pueblo Revolt, The Mojave Rebblion, and Red Cloud\'s campaign against the Bozeman Trail? Genuine Indian victories.
I talk too much...
I talk too much...
vincegamer
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My understanding from my MA program was that the treaty of GH has something in it to the effect that we would recognize all property rights the Spanish recognized, and that\'s been interpreted to include the rights of the Navajo to their land.
This does have an effect on the jurisdictional issues with regard to what law applies. The Navajo have it better than most because their land is theirs, rather than they being on land that belongs to the Federal government with a right to use it (oversimplified but close enough). Historically it means they avoided some bumpy stages where the Feds tried to parce up the tribal lands to individual tribe members.
This does have an effect on the jurisdictional issues with regard to what law applies. The Navajo have it better than most because their land is theirs, rather than they being on land that belongs to the Federal government with a right to use it (oversimplified but close enough). Historically it means they avoided some bumpy stages where the Feds tried to parce up the tribal lands to individual tribe members.
vincegamer
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Don\'t knock the buffet!
Pachanga has an awesome one.
Pachanga has an awesome one.
