Lustrian Warlord
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DIablofollower
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Hmmm I am really surprised that this didn\'t make first cut. It is a very well painted mini. I don\'t see any faults in the paint job. My reasoning behind why it didn\'t make first cut at the least may be just because of the mini itself being quite plain as well as the lack of any conversion or free hand. It seems that recently GD judges have been looking for either major conversions and/or major freehand done on the mini. Either way though I think this should have had made at least first cut, the paint job is great as well as the base. Ah well, don\'t get discouraged, keep up the great work!
Surely it should be SKAVEN WARLORD, which if you\'d entered it as Lustrian might have gotten you points knocked off in the judging.
Roger Bunting
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Nope, it\'s a warlord of Lustria.
Just looked at the link for voting and seen the name there.
To be honest there\'s nothing about the mini which says Lustria or it\'s jungles to me.
While it\'s a neat paintjob there\'s nothing which makes it \"Pop\" as a competition miniature. It\'s neither brightly highlighted or subtley muted dirt-marked skaven.
As a Gaming miniature its great and would be outstanding on a tabletop but as a competition piece it doesn\'t really have anything to draw the eye.
To be honest there\'s nothing about the mini which says Lustria or it\'s jungles to me.
While it\'s a neat paintjob there\'s nothing which makes it \"Pop\" as a competition miniature. It\'s neither brightly highlighted or subtley muted dirt-marked skaven.
As a Gaming miniature its great and would be outstanding on a tabletop but as a competition piece it doesn\'t really have anything to draw the eye.
freakinacage
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a lovely mini
Tinweasel
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I saw this figure firsthand in Chicago and really liked it, I\'m likewise surprised that it didn\'t make first cut as it really is solidly painted, and I rather like your approach with the darker color scheme and deeper, richer colors.
As to why this particular guy didn\'t make First Cut, I\'m not exactly sure, as like I said I saw it firsthand and was impressed. What I\'d guess, though, if I had to guess, is that it might have to do with the overall evenness of color throughout the various areas of the figure and the lack of exaggerated shading to take into account the relative positions of decorative bits on the sculpt itself. Looking at the robes and skin, for example, the overall highlights on the cloth trailing up the chest could\'ve been brought out more, as they stick out well beyond the shoulder armor plating and even the shadow of the head. Along the same lines, I think the highlighting on upper-facing surfaces, such as the wide brows of his face, the upper muzzle, his protruding knee to a certain extent, and the upper areas of the hands gripping the bardiche and the ratbandangle could\'ve been bumped up a notch or two as they are almost completely exposed and not in shadow at all.
The \"back banner\" looks a little too even in color as well, and the straps holding the spiked poles together don\'t really stand out much color- or highlight-wise from the shade of the wood of the poles themselves. I like what you\'ve done with the skulls to give them a really weathered, almost charred effect, but I think the upper-facing surfaces on them again could\'ve benefitted from at least a little more highlighting, as barring the splitting where the spikes have been rammed through, they are for the most part smooth bone surfaces.
So far as exaggerated shading, the ropes tying the book to his chest are fairly even in color, even the undersides of the somewhat protruding knot and dangling ends. The skull hanging under his belly, if you look at the figure from the top down, is almost completely in shade from his gut and the protruding book - on your figure, you\'ve left it a fairly bright whitish color with limited shading. The claws on his feet are also a little overly bright in my opinion, as his right foot is pulled mostly back into the shade of his knee and the bardiche haft and his left foot is fairly overhung by the angle of his body (to a lesser extent) and by the dangling rats. While I think the paleness of the dangling rats in the ratbandangle is great and gets across that the lower ones might be dead, whereas the topmost one the Skaven is screaming at is still alive, their heads and bodies are almost completely in shadow and the shading on them and the knotted tails could definitely have been bumped up, I think.
Personally, I\'m curious as to why you painted the exposed boils/tumors on his belly in somewhat greenish shades as opposed to sickly pale or livid, infected red (presence of Warpstone, perhaps?), and I\'m wondering if you noticed the metal fastener on the 3rd dangling \"shape\" adjoining his robes underneath his gut - looking at the tiny skull next to it with a similar fastener, I got the impression that it wasn\'t meant to be a part of his robes - but maybe that\'s just me. You painted it the same shade as the rest of his robes, I see.
In all, I think it\'s solidly painted and a very well executed figure in terms of showing off all the details. I\'m surprised it didn\'t make at least First Cut, as I said, having seen it and taken pictures of it in person. The stuff detailed above might be some reasons why, or at least how I personally interpret your take on the figure. I definitely love the basing, though, which is good enough to stand alone as-is. (How did you do the cat-tails and what sort of static grass did you use? That\'s a perfect grassy shade and I don\'t see any of those annoying red strands that GW has mixed into theirs.)
Any chance of showing off the back of the figure? I\'d really like to see what you did with the patchy, tumescent body of the one dangling rat, and of course your take on the skulls hanging from his waist and the spellbook strapped to his back.
Sorry about the essay, but I liked your approach to this guy, and I think he should\'ve placed higher.
Not true at all - there were a great number of figures that made first cut without any conversion or extensive freehand whatsoever. The Bronze Demon-winning figure in the Warhammer Single category most certainly did not have any conversion whatsoever, and the freehand was simple Skaven runes painted \"in blood\" on the various skulls - what\'s more, it was exactly the same Direct Order-only Skaven Warlord figure that was released to coincide with the GW Lustrian campaign. One thing I really love about the figure is the amount of little details it carries, from the tied tails of the ratbandangle, the various tumors and patchy fur areas, the little rat perched on the backpack, the tiny studs on the skull headdress wrappings, and the various bells and spellbooks on the figure that make him seem almost as much a spellcaster as a vicious, screaming Warlord. I think the figure has more than enough existing detail to justify a lack of conversion or freehand necessary.
As to why this particular guy didn\'t make First Cut, I\'m not exactly sure, as like I said I saw it firsthand and was impressed. What I\'d guess, though, if I had to guess, is that it might have to do with the overall evenness of color throughout the various areas of the figure and the lack of exaggerated shading to take into account the relative positions of decorative bits on the sculpt itself. Looking at the robes and skin, for example, the overall highlights on the cloth trailing up the chest could\'ve been brought out more, as they stick out well beyond the shoulder armor plating and even the shadow of the head. Along the same lines, I think the highlighting on upper-facing surfaces, such as the wide brows of his face, the upper muzzle, his protruding knee to a certain extent, and the upper areas of the hands gripping the bardiche and the ratbandangle could\'ve been bumped up a notch or two as they are almost completely exposed and not in shadow at all.
The \"back banner\" looks a little too even in color as well, and the straps holding the spiked poles together don\'t really stand out much color- or highlight-wise from the shade of the wood of the poles themselves. I like what you\'ve done with the skulls to give them a really weathered, almost charred effect, but I think the upper-facing surfaces on them again could\'ve benefitted from at least a little more highlighting, as barring the splitting where the spikes have been rammed through, they are for the most part smooth bone surfaces.
So far as exaggerated shading, the ropes tying the book to his chest are fairly even in color, even the undersides of the somewhat protruding knot and dangling ends. The skull hanging under his belly, if you look at the figure from the top down, is almost completely in shade from his gut and the protruding book - on your figure, you\'ve left it a fairly bright whitish color with limited shading. The claws on his feet are also a little overly bright in my opinion, as his right foot is pulled mostly back into the shade of his knee and the bardiche haft and his left foot is fairly overhung by the angle of his body (to a lesser extent) and by the dangling rats. While I think the paleness of the dangling rats in the ratbandangle is great and gets across that the lower ones might be dead, whereas the topmost one the Skaven is screaming at is still alive, their heads and bodies are almost completely in shadow and the shading on them and the knotted tails could definitely have been bumped up, I think.
Personally, I\'m curious as to why you painted the exposed boils/tumors on his belly in somewhat greenish shades as opposed to sickly pale or livid, infected red (presence of Warpstone, perhaps?), and I\'m wondering if you noticed the metal fastener on the 3rd dangling \"shape\" adjoining his robes underneath his gut - looking at the tiny skull next to it with a similar fastener, I got the impression that it wasn\'t meant to be a part of his robes - but maybe that\'s just me. You painted it the same shade as the rest of his robes, I see.
In all, I think it\'s solidly painted and a very well executed figure in terms of showing off all the details. I\'m surprised it didn\'t make at least First Cut, as I said, having seen it and taken pictures of it in person. The stuff detailed above might be some reasons why, or at least how I personally interpret your take on the figure. I definitely love the basing, though, which is good enough to stand alone as-is. (How did you do the cat-tails and what sort of static grass did you use? That\'s a perfect grassy shade and I don\'t see any of those annoying red strands that GW has mixed into theirs.)
Any chance of showing off the back of the figure? I\'d really like to see what you did with the patchy, tumescent body of the one dangling rat, and of course your take on the skulls hanging from his waist and the spellbook strapped to his back.
Sorry about the essay, but I liked your approach to this guy, and I think he should\'ve placed higher.
