My red fish has died ...

[supervike]

Originally posted by Dragonsreach

[size=-2](Jim: friendly disagreement with you not a rant).[/size]

Not even a disagreement Mike! Actually, I was supporting the \'personal sorrow\' threads. It may have been a bit confused...but I am in favor of those threads....just like what Sebastian said.
They certainly help the person who is grieving, and it is a sober reminder that we are ALL real people with real emotions and feelings. I hate to see those threads, because of what they mean, but I understand how important they are.

 

[TAB Studio]

Often times I read in the personal threads of loss, that not only does it help the one with the present loss but many that do post deal with their previous loss a bit more and find a sense of therapy in the connections.

Poor form Arthur yes I do agree but all of us have poor form one time or another.
It is how you respond to the outcry I feel that makes the final difference to others.

 

[Avicenna]

Originally posted by Drake Farstrider
Why be an asshole a post it for the world to see?

Thats very erodite of you and not a personal attack at all! <end sarcasm>

Everyone else has put forward their opinions without attacking Arthur personally, lets try and keep it that way

Peter

 

[finn18]

Absolutely....

Originally posted by TAB Studio
Poor form Arthur yes I do agree but all of us have poor form one time or another.

Although I would say, like Tooshy, it\'s more a question of poor timing than poor form.

 

[AinuLainour]

You know, Arthur, if it makes you feel any better, recently a friend of mine was hit and killed by a bus after formal. No one offered condolences to me through CMoN, and that made it tougher to deal with.

 

[ipaintminis]

Originally posted by Tony Manero
I\'m sorry but i\'ll not consider you a good person anymore.

thats alittle too far I think. Considering who is and who isn\'t a good person based on one view...on one subject.

and especially not from you Tony, considering you\'re own rudeness a few months back. I personally didn\'t judge you because of it, I shouldn\'t think you would to arthur.

 

[Wolf Fang]

alright.... i think il\'l post now... heres my thoughts on the matter

people cope differently and to some people (including myselfe) they see this as a sort of family. they like to share things with the people here. not only that they sometimes come to people here for comfort be it some 1 has passed or they need help getting back into the hobby or they have broken up with their signifigant other. not every posts these kind of subjects those and i think when they do they should be helped. i dont see how its eny different for some 1 to post a thread about it then it is for some 1 to mention to their friends what has happened. some people just want the comfort some people want to be left alone. i know when my grandma died a few months ago i mentioned it to a few CMONers (as they asked how i was) but i asked them not to post as i did not want to draw attention to myselfe and what not. long story short all it is, is a person looking for some comfort from another friend. so why flog them for it...? that is all

 

[Avicenna]

Originally posted by supervike
When someone passes along a \'famous\' person as dying thread, I can see where those threads get a bit old....

Its almost like a new way to post pad

Originally posted by AinuLainour
You know, Arthur, if it makes you feel any better <snip>

???

are you being serious? Because if you are being facecious its really in bad taste

 

[Tony Manero]

i think this thread is degenerating...

btw becca i have a lot of respect for people who pass away and i find REALLY harsh (i can\'t compare honestly my harshness on comments in cmon and THIS kind of rudeness) making this kind of \"black humour\" on someone who lost his mother.

This is my point of view, you can disagree but i wouldn\'t change my hopinion for any reason. sorry

 

[TAB Studio]

\"are you being serious? Because if you are being facecious its really in bad taste\"



Here

Peter after a search this is what I found

 

[finn18]

Tony...

Originally posted by Tony Manero
THIS kind of rudeness) making this kind of \"black humour\" on someone who lost his mother.

You are reading too much into FK\'s post. He doesn\'t refer to anyone or any thread in particular, there is no attempt at humour, black or otherwise. FK is expressing his opinion about what he sees as a trend in CMON threads. An opinion he is quite entitled to.
What is particularly unfortunate however, is his timing, in the light of a member\'s recent loss.

 

[tooshy]

Originally posted by TAB Studio
\"are you being serious? Because if you are being facecious its really in bad taste\"



Here

Peter after a search this is what I found

Tab you\'ve missed the point Peter was trying to make. He was asking AinuLainour if he seriously expects Frenchkid to be happy that a friend of his died..... Of course he isn\'t! and clearly the comment from AinuLainour is inappropriate....

 

[supervike]

Originally posted by AinuLainour
You know, Arthur, if it makes you feel any better, recently a friend of mine was hit and killed by a bus after formal. No one offered condolences to me through CMoN, and that made it tougher to deal with.

According to the thread, several people offered condolences...

AGAIN>...lets not pile on Arthur because of his opinion....PLUS...can we let him clarify a bit more....maybe he meant the \'famous person died\' thread is what is bothering him...

Frenchkid has been a valued member of the community for a long time, lets let him have his say and defend himself. Then we can cut off his goolies and bury him.....:drunk:

 

[TAB Studio]

Thanks Tooshy
Now I understand Peter\'s post better. Thank you for taking the time.

 

[Tony Manero]

Originally posted by finn18

Originally posted by Tony Manero
THIS kind of rudeness) making this kind of \"black humour\" on someone who lost his mother.

You are reading too much into FK\'s post. He doesn\'t refer to anyone or any thread in particular, there is no attempt at humour, black or otherwise. FK is expressing his opinion about what he sees as a trend in CMON threads. An opinion he is quite entitled to.
What is particularly unfortunate however, is his timing, in the light of a member\'s recent loss.

mmhhhh maybe the \"timing\" was totally inappropriate and made my judge too harsh, but... i don\'t know... my first impression was ... kinda :cussing: then :flame: then then :no: i find it totally inappropriate...

 

[Zora]

The TRULY sad thing...

is that this thread has had more replies and views than the \"my mom\" thread...

???

 

[johnboyjjb]

I fear I have to agree with FrenchKid . . at least a little. I personally don\'t see the need for a personal note on the fact that somebody has died. I can see other people having a need for this and see nothing wrong with it. I don\'t normally read the threads relating to non-famous people dying since I can neither empathize or sympathize that well. I actually clicked on this thread looking for the punchline to a joke - not a serious discussion. I do like the famous people dying threads as the bring up history that I have either forgotten or never knew.

I suppose that since I am not close to very many people I have very little to empthize with. When someone says my Great-Aunt Ruth died it means little to me because I don\'t have a great-aunt Ruth. If they also mentioned that their great-aunt Ruth raised them from the time they were 2 I could rationalize it as being similar to the loss of a mother.

I suppose if I felt the loss of not getting the experience of meeting a person, I would understand better. Like the diver guy with Cuba - I would have really liked to meet him.


I am not explaining myself well.

 

[Drake Farstrider]

Originally posted by Avicenna
Thats very erodite of you and not a personal attack at all! <end sarcasm>

Hey Peter, I have to know what does Erodite mean? I looked for it in multiple online dictionaries and found no definition. The closest I could come up with is Erudite, is that what you meant?

 

[Avicenna]

what do you reckon drake?

have you looked up the meaning - that\'ll answer your question

 

[Klute]

Ever since the death of Princess Dianna there has been a great emphasis put on how much everyone should grieve no matter who they are. We are expected to pour out our feelings for people who we have never met.
Its also very hard to object to these type of threads without sounding insincere. Personally I am as sincere as any here but tend to stay away from these threads as most of the time I dont know what to say. People saying they are sorry for peoples losses who they have never met. Its all words to me and most of them seem hollow. I dont mean to be harsh but its the way I see it.
I would advise anyone thinking of posting here that there loved ones have passed away and are seeking sympathy from the community would be better off talking to people on forums who deal with these specific situations. There are people there in exactly the same situations who DO understand your loss.