Paratrooper with no camo?

[AinuLainour]

Without Camo?

I\'m painting a German paratrooper, but on the box-art it shows them with camo, yet this artist did not include that. Is this historically innaccurate?

 

[goblinLB]

that link is invalid for me

 

[Bill]

Originally posted by goblinLB
that link is invalid for me

It\'s pretty obviously just a typo in Ainu\'s link, that can be edited to find the actual one... here it is anyway:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/133093

Ainu: I don\'t think it is historically inaccurate in general because I saw a film where British paratroopers were landing in France, uncamouflaged. But it was just a movie, and maybe the Germans are different...

 

[james sequeira]

Who cares just paint it how you see fit.

 

[AinuLainour]

Originally posted by james sequeira
Who cares just paint it how you see fit.

I care as I want to be historically accurate...

@Bill - I hope you\'re right >< Camo is a pain.

 

[matty1001]

Heres a pic i found on google, this fella seems to have camo on, but there are some uniform examples with no camo such as this:

So im pretty sure you could do either aslong as you get the colour scheme accurate.

 

[Legacy Account]

What period of the war? What theatre of the war? What time of year?

One would assume that there would be a good deal of variety in what was worn....

 

[GAR]

the picture is quite accurate as is the painted mini.

There was a huge amount of variation in WW2. The photo shows what was called \"splinter\" camo pattern.

But if memory serves more correctly, in the early part of the war, in North Africa they Paras did not have camo, much like the painted figure.

So they are both correct, in a broad sense, but there is a certain amount of variation over early to mid to late war.

Some guys would wear whatever they could get they\'re hands on as supplies dwindeled, were destroyed, captured or delievered.

As an exercise in giving yourself a headache, try figurig out what color dunklegelb is. No two people I have ever met can agree. The most common arguement is it is too yellow, too green or too brown. Go figure.

And the US is even worse. Uniforms color and style varied there from month to month with the availability of dye and materials. US Olive Drab green, ha, there\'s a good one. Ranks up there with Dunklegelb.

:drunk:

 

[Trevor]

I\'m pretty sure the linked mini is wearing a jump suit, ie just something to waer on the way down. That means he could have camo on underneath, or in his pack.

 

[Sand Rat]

Actually - early war was no cammo, late war was cammo.

And WWII is nothing comparied to American Civil War - thats a real pain in the arse to match.

 

[Infidel Castro]

People, we have finally plumbed new depths. I have wasted my time reading this thread and, what\'s more, I\'ve wasted even more time responding. Let it lie!

 

[Dragonsreach]

Ah but reverend this is the very stuff that Hisorical painters thrive on.

 

[GAR]

Originally posted by steelcult
Actually - early war was no cammo, late war was cammo.

And WWII is nothing comparied to American Civil War - thats a real pain in the arse to match.

Or if you wanted, you could go back in to the Napoleonic era and the debate the proper color of buff. Or buttons. Or what percentage of horse was actually the proper type of horse for said unit, ie...greys, bays roans etc...

The thread & pocket debate is one of my favorites. Not that I really care, but it certyainly does get some terribly riled up.

 

[AinuLainour]

I\'m fairly sure now (considering that this is from 1944, late in the war) that there would be camo.

Thanks guys!

 

[Neil H]

Definitely camo if late war, there were a few variations of type of smock & pattern of camo used, so search on the web to come up with the right type to be 100% accurate. Regards, Neil

 

[Orb]

ahaaa.........it is feasible for german paras to be wearing the 1st or 2nd pattern jump smock, that was NOT camoflagued as late as 1944. In fact there\'s a photo of some of the paras involved in the Ardenne Offensive riding a King Tiger in 1944 wearing a mix of camo.

Bill\'s link was to Jaume Ortiz\'s 120mm Verlinden figure that is acurately painted. He\'s written a book on the subject (damn fine book too Jaume\'s Book (not forgetting Danni)). Great painting in that book and a history lesson to boot!

 

[Orb]

Originally posted by Dragonsreach
Ah but reverend this is the very stuff that Hisorical painters thrive on.

And I clearly know some of them!!!

 

[GAR]

But was it late or early 44??

And what if the unit had been called back from sicily or italy prior to the engagement and still had not been issued new gear since arriving in North Africa and his camo had been all faded so it only looked liek it was monocolor from a distance but was in fact visible from up close.

And what if the elastic in the cuffs had gotten worn out?

And what if his helmet cover was lost and the helmet was still as it was in North Africa??? The what do you do??

And what kind of boots was he wearing, cause that impacts the length and color od the shoelaces??

I think all these issues need to be fully resolved before you can possible even begin to think about how to paint them.

or you could say to heck with it and paint them like the box art.:beer:

In all honesty, there are several very good websites which can provide good pictures of spliner pattern camo. it would be among the most common and easily recognizable.

 

[matty1001]

What if he slipped in some mud and didnt have any washing powder left to wash it in? So he had to fight looking like the swamp thing?

 

[DaN]

As I understand it, paratroops have a jumpsuit type deal over their regular fatigues to keep em warm (Or som ething) etc on the way down

Which then gets stowed with the silk once they land.