Recent GW Finecast bans

Pygmalion

New member
I appreciate the commission painters coming on here to clarify things. I think we are all frustrated with the performance of Finecast.

I would love to be privy to GW's decision processes, though of course that's never gonna happen. What on earth were they thinking?
 

Kelly Kim

New member
Y'know, some of the early Finecast models I recieved had little bits of rubber stuck in the recesses. If that's coming from the molds, I can't imagine that those molds were going to last very long...
 

Bloodhowl

Active member
Y'know, some of the early Finecast models I recieved had little bits of rubber stuck in the recesses. If that's coming from the molds, I can't imagine that those molds were going to last very long...


I found the same in one of mine last year!
 

Avelorn

Sven Jonsson
I'm not accepting finecast works because this material is very difficult to work on. My prices are the same for almost all 30mm mianitures, but in finecast I need one extra day just to clean and repair the mianiture, it's harder to work on and painting job doesn't reach same quality level as plastic or white metal (I don't know why) so as i don't want to charge an extra 25% for finecast miniatures to give customers a lower quality work I just don't accept them.

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So for me, trouble is not the extra working day, the problem is that painting work on finecast is slower and doesn't reach same quality level as plastic, metal or other resins, I don't know why, but at top levels I can notice a difference doing the same.

Hm. That worries me. I have yet to paint any of the few Finecast miniatures I have bought. One immediate idea is that the surface "suck in" paint making it harder to blend? Like painting waterpaint on a paper. Is that what you experience? Then maybe the primer is the key. I need to paint at least a head that I have already converted.
 

atacam

New member
Here also is my full, but short statement.

Following on from a few other painters. we will no longer be accepting commissions of Finecast. For me, it was because today I have had to tell a customer the 3rd miniature they have sent me will cost the commission again to rectify the atrocious miscasts and bubbles in prep time. Sorry if this causes any inconvenience.

It's pretty self explanatory really. The commissioner in this case has been very good.

The model in question was Warlord Queek. There were at least 9 bubbles, plus toes were miscast on both feet, and his face had missed by at least a millimeter. Apparently this was the best one! I have had to return about 70% of my own Fail cast. if its for me I will still buy if I like the mini, but no more commissions.

I can dedicate the time if I really want one, but it is completely uneconomical for me to spend this sort of time on a model that really shouldn't be being sold like that.

I will say the I have never had any issue with GW accepting the return of a mini, and have on an occasion let me open a few box sets to get the components that will make a full unit.
 

nels0nmac

Member
With regard to the coments regarding the re-using of old molds etc....

From my knowledge of the processes involved, the original metal minis were spun from vulcanised rubber molds in a centrifuge. Those molds were created using 'master' copies of the original green sculpts. Those 'master' minis were made from tin (at least I think it was tin). Tin was used as it was more flexible than the white metal that they originally used, so the masters didn't break as easily and could be reused to make molds time and again.

When they stopped using metal and flipped to using Failcast, they re-used those tin 'master' models to cast the silicon molds that they use for the resin figures. To clarify they didn't use the vulcanised rubber master molds ... just the tin masters of the miniature.
 
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