Strip-tease baby
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freakinacage
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why do you want them?
I don\'t think they can.
Remember, most of the humans in 40k treat any kind of technology as more magic than anything else. So I would be extremelly suprised if any normal gaurdsman was actually capable of performing any maintanence to his hardware at all. That\'s why they have lasguns; they\'re idiot-proof!
Remember, most of the humans in 40k treat any kind of technology as more magic than anything else. So I would be extremelly suprised if any normal gaurdsman was actually capable of performing any maintanence to his hardware at all. That\'s why they have lasguns; they\'re idiot-proof!
ScottRadom
Shogun of Saskatchewan
Kind of foggy here, but I picked up a copy of \"The uplifiting imperial primer\" I think that\'s what it was called, and it had a section devoted to weapon maintenance and it stressed that if a guardsmen needed work on his wepaon done to turn it over to the units tech people, because only they know how to apply the sacred oils and chants to keep the wepaon firing true. Something like that.
But I also recall that in one of the books (old Space marine codex?) it had a schedule of a day in the life of a marine, and I thiink they devote 1/2hr a day to wepaon maintenance. All this is from memory, and my memory is very poor nowadays....
where am I?
But I also recall that in one of the books (old Space marine codex?) it had a schedule of a day in the life of a marine, and I thiink they devote 1/2hr a day to wepaon maintenance. All this is from memory, and my memory is very poor nowadays....
where am I?
I wouldn\'t expect a regular guardsman or marine to strip down the engine of a leman russ or rewire an auspex, the same as I wouldn\'t expect the ordinary Modern-day GI or marine to be able to program the guidance system for a heatseeking missile 
But every soldier knows how to strip down, oil and clean his weapon.
As the US marine\'s creed goes:
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without it, I am useless... Etc Etc
What I\'m wondering is if anyone has any sort of diagram or blueprint to show the interior mechanics of any kind of 40k weapon?
PS. I\'m sure I\'ve read stuff in the Gaunt\'s ghosts books about Larkin stripping and oiling his long-las.
But every soldier knows how to strip down, oil and clean his weapon.
As the US marine\'s creed goes:
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without it, I am useless... Etc Etc
What I\'m wondering is if anyone has any sort of diagram or blueprint to show the interior mechanics of any kind of 40k weapon?
PS. I\'m sure I\'ve read stuff in the Gaunt\'s ghosts books about Larkin stripping and oiling his long-las.
ScottRadom
Shogun of Saskatchewan
Originally posted by DaN
I wouldn\'t expect a regular guardsman or marine to strip down the engine of a leman russ or rewire an auspex, the same as I wouldn\'t expect the ordinary Modern-day GI or marine to be able to program the guidance system for a heatseeking missile
But every soldier knows how to strip down, oil and clean his weapon.
As the US marine\'s creed goes:
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without it, I am useless... Etc Etc
What I\'m wondering is if anyone has any sort of diagram or blueprint to show the interior mechanics of any kind of 40k weapon?
PS. I\'m sure I\'ve read stuff in the Gaunt\'s ghosts books about Larkin stripping and oiling his long-las.
Yes, but Larks is batshit crazy. I got home and I couldn\'t find it (damn!) but in the imperial infantrymans uplifting primer I am pretty sure it speaks about doing NOTHING to your rifle unless under the supervision of an ordained techpriest.
The only place I would check for any cross-section type pictures of IG weapons might be the old rogue trader book. I seem to recall a big poster type shot of the full power armor and bolter all stripped down.
If you\'re thinking of modeling it, I think the good news is there\'s not near enough out there for anyone to point at your work and laugh \"Stupid, you\'ve got the bolter igniter in backwards, ha ha\" or anything like that, and I would really love to see a little diorama piece all done up with anything along this theme.
Actually the uplifting primer may have some clearer pictures of weapons in it.
Good luck! I hope you decide to do a porject along these lines.
Larks also customized his scope, which other people were kinda uncomfortable with. He\'s an extreme exception to the rule methinks.
Generally though I think the IG know the basics of keeping their weapon clean. Modifying/repairing it is one thing, wiping the dust/dirt/blood out of its major components is pretty easy. I\'m sure there are books which show this process, I just can\'t think of any because it\'s such a mundane process.
Anyway I have seen some cutaway views of various 40k things over the years. I\'ve seen a stormbolter for sure (3rd edition rulebook I think?) and a Basilisk cutaway in Inferno! Magazine. They used to have technical drawings and stuff randomly once in a while. I think I saw a rippergun cutaway in there once as well.
Generally though I think the IG know the basics of keeping their weapon clean. Modifying/repairing it is one thing, wiping the dust/dirt/blood out of its major components is pretty easy. I\'m sure there are books which show this process, I just can\'t think of any because it\'s such a mundane process.
Anyway I have seen some cutaway views of various 40k things over the years. I\'ve seen a stormbolter for sure (3rd edition rulebook I think?) and a Basilisk cutaway in Inferno! Magazine. They used to have technical drawings and stuff randomly once in a while. I think I saw a rippergun cutaway in there once as well.
freakinacage
Well-known member
ok reading it now, it says you can oil exposed parts and tells you how to \'strip\' it but thats only replacing barrels and stocks.
\"anything that is beyond you skill to rectify, report the fault immediately\"
cleaning only involves oiling and wiping the exposed bits
\"anything that is beyond you skill to rectify, report the fault immediately\"
cleaning only involves oiling and wiping the exposed bits
well most military weapons strip down fairly easily into not so many parts. usually it can be done with a minimal set of tools or none at all. I\'m sure even in the WH 40k universe it would be more or less true. look for exploded views of weapons like the m60, mark 19, m16. etc. They aren\'t las based but you can get a basic idea. I figure you\'re going to have
1 clip for ammo
2 trigger mechanism which will basically be an entire assembly from the finger guard back to the buttstock
3 barrel
4 some sort of chamber. I think they reference a focuser of some sort in the Guants Ghosts books.
example
I know the books always say that tech is left in the hands of the priests but I know in the guants ghosts in particular they make several mentions of customizing various parts of their rifles. They talk about hotshotting las rounds to shoot hotter, they talk about swapping out sniper rifle barrels because they overheat and warp, they talk about using the ammo clips as an improvised explosive.
So in the end like someone said above it\'s not like anyone will be able to call you out for making it wrong. have fun with it!
1 clip for ammo
2 trigger mechanism which will basically be an entire assembly from the finger guard back to the buttstock
3 barrel
4 some sort of chamber. I think they reference a focuser of some sort in the Guants Ghosts books.
example
I know the books always say that tech is left in the hands of the priests but I know in the guants ghosts in particular they make several mentions of customizing various parts of their rifles. They talk about hotshotting las rounds to shoot hotter, they talk about swapping out sniper rifle barrels because they overheat and warp, they talk about using the ammo clips as an improvised explosive.
So in the end like someone said above it\'s not like anyone will be able to call you out for making it wrong. have fun with it!
freakinacage
Well-known member
actually the barrels are meant to be swapped. and hot shot rounds are standard sniper rounds for the guard
RuneBrush
New member
Agree with most of the comments. Imperial Las Guns were always designed to be fairly maintenance free and as they contain no moving parts. From various things that have been released over time it\'s pretty much accepted that the barrel can be swapped and the powerpack (which can be placed in a fire to re-energise in an emergency). Sights were always treated as additions.
Hot shot rounds aren\'t rounds per-se. Basically a more powerful powerpack that is plugged into the Lasgun (sometimes the new powerpack is a big battery carried on their back). The \'hot shot\' litterally means the thing that comes out the end of the gun (laser blast?) is hotter. Las-weapons are basically battery powered.
As for dismantling other weapons, then the people who used them would have basic knowledge on how to dismantle and maintain them. Most likely if they were Imperial, whilst also making the correct liturgies to the machine god. This is in the same way as somebody driving a Chimera won\'t actually know how the combustion engine works, but does know how to repair a link on one of the tracks.
Pete
(now over his anorak knowledge of 40k)
Hot shot rounds aren\'t rounds per-se. Basically a more powerful powerpack that is plugged into the Lasgun (sometimes the new powerpack is a big battery carried on their back). The \'hot shot\' litterally means the thing that comes out the end of the gun (laser blast?) is hotter. Las-weapons are basically battery powered.
As for dismantling other weapons, then the people who used them would have basic knowledge on how to dismantle and maintain them. Most likely if they were Imperial, whilst also making the correct liturgies to the machine god. This is in the same way as somebody driving a Chimera won\'t actually know how the combustion engine works, but does know how to repair a link on one of the tracks.
Pete
(now over his anorak knowledge of 40k)
freakinacage
Well-known member
aye thats what i was trying to get across but badly!
