Am I late with this?

Niall

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Read an article and the USA has a serious "not made here don't want it" syndrome that stopped BP doing its job.
But hey it wasn't even BP's rig that exploded and when nuclear scientists are called in as a last resort we can all remember that stopping a huge oil leak at the bottom of the sea isn't a walk in the park.
 

generulpoleaxe

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Read an article and the USA has a serious "not made here don't want it" syndrome that stopped BP doing its job.
But hey it wasn't even BP's rig that exploded and when nuclear scientists are called in as a last resort we can all remember that stopping a huge oil leak at the bottom of the sea isn't a walk in the park.

It's easier when the correct safety precautions are taken before hand, without socialized losses in place they would have done that.
Both BP directors, their lobbyists and politicians are to blame, don't apologize for any off them as they will screw you royaly every chance they get.
If their losses were not socialized through goverment regulation thanks to corperate lobbying then they would have taken the neccesary precautions that would enable them to deal with an accident far more efficiently, and faster. (you want to see what the oil companies get away with on the African continent!)
 

generulpoleaxe

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That's it, I'm moving to New Zealand.

Far better to get people together and put pressure on politicians, make them do the job they promised to do.
If people started to out all of the politicians that accept lobbyists money/favours as well as the lobbyists who run for "office" then politics would start to (a slow start admittedly) clean up.

The people took their eye off the ball for too long, we only have our selves collectively to blame (it's starting to happen in the UK but it's a very small and slow start.)
 

Dedwrekka

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we play in a hobby that is not exactly green.
We pay to ship heavy metals around the globe.
We want lots of plastic foam packaging to protect our heavy metals.

We pay to ship liquids around the globe.
Main ingredient is water - we are paying to ship water.
Small quantities put in plastic bottles.

All of this freight and all of this plastic is dependant on oil.
The majority of your computer that you are reading and responding to this is plastic.

As long as we rely on plastics and trucking for products, we need oil and other petroleum derivatives.

As long as we need oil, we have to drill.
As long as we drill, there will be incidents: Tankers, platforms, pipelines - all mechanical with human oversight. Failure guaranteed.

Try going a week without any plastic in your life or without using anything that was freighted in to your store (local only).
Won't happen in the planet that we live on unless you are Amish.

Actually Bio-plastics technology has advanced rapidly now that we've begun paying attention to it. Everything from high end pastic parts for electronics and cars, to packaging and food storage, to dinnerware (Both disposable and non-disposable) can be made from bioplastics.

Freight can be hauled using Biofuel/Biodiesel as well, rather than Petrolium, and the process of making, storing and servicing biofuel is quite easy, as well as converting engines to run on the substance.

I'm not saying that our lives don't run on Petrol right now, they do, but only because we found it first. I can't say I have much of a problem with BP hitting the bricks and while the oil spill itself is quite disasterous, I'm staring to see the silver lining beyond it.
People across the world are looking at oil again as a potentially very dangerous thing. This time, we actually have viable alternatives to the problem that are not in development, but in use. Much like the Hybrid cars/Clean Air crave that saw people finnally buying into the electric car and alternative energy market, this has the great potential to change public opinion from one of uncaring and uninterested consumer to the concerned citizen and angry (partially-informed) mob that gets companies to shift gazes even slightly over to the alternatives.
 
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