What tha?! [Re: Enigma's Morznak]

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Alchemist

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I was excited to find a box in the mail from Noble Knight today that included a few figures, including the jewel of the haul, Morznak. But lo' and behold I open the box and Morznak is...plastic. WTF?! I was under the impression--as described by the Enigma website--that the Firstborn line was metal. I feel "jipped." How was I supposed to know that the figure I was ordering was plastic when the website very clearly says "The figures are cast in high quality white metal..."?

I'm probably going to return this if I can get a full refund, but I'm wondering if I'm missing something here or why this figure is plastic and (presumably) others are not. I know the smaller Massive Darkness figures are all metal, not sure about the rest of the larger Firstborn line.
 
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Alchemist

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Thanks for the link. Not only did they not advertise it as resin, they advertised it as metal - which is what we call false advertising. I'm trying to decide whether to return it - as with all Enigma figures, it is a lovely sculpt, I just have a hard time with the resin, especially for a relatively small figure. The Dragon Titan, I understand--actually, I don't think it would be possible to make such a large figure metal, especially with the wings, but Morznak isn't huge (although a bit bigger than I thought he'd be). I suppose it saved them a few bucks (or francs) but I would have paid a few more for metal.

Isn't resin a kind of plastic, sort of "high quality" plastic?
 
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supervike

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It seems resin is more expensive than metal, but I can certainly understand your preference.

I'm growing to like resin, it does give a crisper cast.
 
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Alchemist

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The odd thing about Morznak is that it isn't actually a very detailed model and would have been just gorgeous in metal, reminiscent of one of the lovely Rackham minotaurs. Also, while the body is resin the head and hands/weapon are metal. For me this is a bit irking because if I don't have time to paint a given miniature I'll often use it unpainted for D&D, and a resin mini with metal head and weapon looks kind of silly.

Anyhow, I think I've gotten all of my complaints out so will quit my whining ;).
 
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supervike

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I just acquired a Knight Models HULK figure. It's all resin, and just an incredible sculpt. I can't imagine how heavy it'd be if it were metal.
 
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IdofEntity

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Alchemist,

It sounds like you really do have a passion for metal figurines, and I can't blame you for it. Some of them are gorgeous. In my experience, they're too much of a hassle to work with so I try to avoid them unless they REALLY strike my fancy. But if it's your preferred miniature material then you are completely justified in asking for a refund based on misleading advertisement. Just do the vendor a favor and explain it to them calmly. I doubt they'll have an issue with a refund if you show them the misleading ad.

On the other hand, if it's your first time painting with a resin fig give it a shot and paint it. You might find out you like working with it more than metal. Let there be something new under your sun.
 
Aliengod3

Aliengod3

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Morznak was a mini scultped by Allan C. Seems like most of the work he sculpts ends up as resin because of the materials he uses to sculpt them. I think the barbarian and orc he sculpted for metal modeles are the only minis that were actually cast in metal. Heavy buggers.

But there is nothing wrong with resin. I admit that metal is way more durable but resin can give very nice detail and saves alot of time with mini prep. Sanding and burnishing metal minis for smoothness can be very tedious and you do not have that trouble with resin.
 
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supervike

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What do you guys use to clean mold lines on resin? I actually find them harder than on metal. I use a set of needle files, and it just doesn't seem to do an adequate job.
 
Dragonsreach

Dragonsreach

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supervike said:
What do you guys use to clean mold lines on resin? I actually find them harder than on metal. I use a set of needle files, and it just doesn't seem to do an adequate job.
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Patience and a lot of care.
I've used the sideways Knife on small lines, the Model Chisel I have, Files and automotive emery paper.
Its been a touch of Procreate to level out as well, but thankfully that was only once.
 
Einion

Einion

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supervike said:
What do you guys use to clean mold lines on resin? I actually find them harder than on metal. I use a set of needle files, and it just doesn't seem to do an adequate job.
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Generally I scrape or pare with a craft knife to start off, then usually use either nail buffers or abrasive papers/films to smooth out the surface if it's a flat or convex. I tend to reserve using needle files for concave areas or curvy in-and-out detail, like if the mould line runs down a sleeve.

If there's a bigger step to deal with if I don't decide to fill I'll use silicon abrasive heads in my motor tool to do the bulk of the removal, then do the final smoothing by hand as normal.

Einion

P.S. Forgot to say, also use Scotchbrite and steel wool for smoothing larger areas.
 
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