Bad work? Could be the camera...

clevischi

New member
Hello friends,

Today a bought a new camera and the difference in the quality of pictures is screaming.

Its the differences between a $150 and a $750 camera.

My old camera is a Sony Cybershot DSC-W35, and the new one is a Canon EOS Rebel T1i EF-S.

The pics are with a +10 lens.

The new pics are the left ones:

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symmaccus

New member
Pretty big difference, especially with the greens. My camera murders my Orks, but I don't have that kind of money for a camera unfortunately!
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
Hello friends,

Today a bought a new camera and the difference in the quality of pictures is screaming.

Its the differences between a $150 and a $750 camera.
My old camera is a Sony Cybershot DSC-W35, and the new one is a Canon EOS Rebel T1i EF-S.
The pics are with a +10 lens.
The new pics are the left ones:
TCS-7.jpg
I'd suggest that it's not so much the camera but the camera settings.
The obvious difference between the photo's above is that the Depth of Field of Focus is larger, thereby showing more of the mini in relative focus and that the metering id concentrated more on the mini than the averaged version.

However if you are happy with the results you are getting I'd strongly suggest that you Take a record of the settings so that you can replicate them at anytime.
(And not have to faff around like I do trying to get them right again!)
 

GTherk

New member
I'd suggest that it's not so much the camera but the camera settings.
The obvious difference between the photo's above is that the Depth of Field of Focus is larger, thereby showing more of the mini in relative focus and that the metering id concentrated more on the mini than the averaged version.

Question, Dragonsreach. I haven't bought a camera yet and haven't made my mind up about which one to buy, but does a camera like the Cybershot, which I assume is pretty representative of the $150 range, offer the ability to adjust settings to the degree to achieve results similar to the pictures taken by the Rebel in the examples above? In other words, how much can you adjust with a camera like a Cybershot? Thanks.
 
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Einion

New member
New pics are on the left, the ones with a shallower depth of field?! :giggle:

Other than that, clarity and colour looks great. But a lot could be done with those Cybershot photos in post-processing.


@ GTherk - some cheaper cameras won't have anything that'll adjust a global colour setting - like Natural Colour, Vivid Colour - but you'd have to check the specifics of the model(s) you're looking at. And different camera makes and models capture colour in their own ways because the manufacturers choose the look they like; some models are noted for having natural-looking colours, others are set to give more vivid or 'punchy' results.

Other than that, depth of field is related to aperture size and you can't directly control this in many cheaper cameras either (i.e. no Aperture Priority mode) although this can be influenced by lighting, and more light (diffused) is advisable anyway.

Need links for where to look up camera reviews?

Einion
 

GTherk

New member
Hey Einion,

Thank you for the explanations. Some links to camera reviews would be greatly appreciated.

Gary
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
New pics are on the left, the ones with a shallower depth of field?! :giggle:

Einion

Oh For F***s sake! New ones on the LEFT. >Big Hairy Handed Facepalm<
MAN did I have a brain fart with this one!

Sorry GTHerk, but I have to say that I completely got this ass about face.
MY preference is for the ones on the right, which I think are showing a better representation of your figures.
 

GTherk

New member
Oh For F***s sake! New ones on the LEFT. >Big Hairy Handed Facepalm<
MAN did I have a brain fart with this one!

Sorry GTHerk, but I have to say that I completely got this ass about face.
MY preference is for the ones on the right, which I think are showing a better representation of your figures.

Hahahahahahahaha, that's okay. I'm leaning toward spending less money anyway. :messed:
 

No Such Agency

New member
Re: depth of field, one way of fixing this problem is to simply take the macro shots from farther away. At 10 MP or whatever, you should still have a big enough image of the mini to post online, and the protruding bits won't be (as much) out of focus.

I don't really know much about photography. Am I full of **** on this?
 

Avelorn

Sven Jonsson
Re: depth of field, one way of fixing this problem is to simply take the macro shots from farther away. At 10 MP or whatever, you should still have a big enough image of the mini to post online, and the protruding bits won't be (as much) out of focus.

I don't really know much about photography. Am I full of **** on this?

Your not full of... :) It's an option but the resolution of the miniature will drop as well regardless of MP count. Just think that the miniature will occupy a much smaller part of the sensor and thus less details will be seen. The best option is to have manual settings on the camera, set the camera to a usable aperture setting and then if needed move back.

As Einion points out though the depth of field can with automatic settings be controlled with the light. If you give the mini enough light the camera will eventually be forced to use a narrower aperture to get the right exposure and thus increase the depth of field. But I suppose it takes a fair share of experimenting to get it right.
 

MiniStalker83

New member
The clarity is amazing. But I wouldn't expect anything different from a 600 dollar upgrade! The color quality is up in the air for me, because obviously I cannot see the originals with my own eyes to note the true colors. Are you a professional photographer?Angie's List have reviews for photographers. Why the super-expensive camera?
 
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