Something interesting with Liquid Green Stuff

[kathrynloch]

So got some Liquid Green Stuff not too long ago. I like it, it applies and cleans up pretty easily. How large of a gap you fill depends on how much you put on. It can kinda booger up sometimes but overall I like it.

Well, I'm working on my Lynchguard and going with the meat cleaver and shield for weapons. The join for the arm and the sword is weak and I was thinking I probably should pin it. Blech! Pinning something that small is a PITA! Instead of using my CA and baking soda trick, I decided to glue and then use the liquid green stuff over it to strengthen the join. Worked nicely, went to bed, got up this morning and discovered I glued one of the weapons on wrong. *head desk*

So I got a pointed cotton swab and acetone and started working on un-doing what I did last night. Shoot it worked better than I had hoped. This damn thing isn't coming apart at all. The arm wanted to break behind the join before the join gave up. But as I worked, I discovered the cotton swab was also cleaning up the green stuff very nicely!

Normally, once it's dry, I take a sanding stick and start filing off the excess. That takes forever. Anyway after I finally got the hand apart and glued correctly. I took the swab and the acetone and cleaned up the other arms with green stuff. I just hit the "over-paint" areas like on the back of the hand and the arm. It worked like a charm! I rinsed the arms off in clear water, just to make sure I didn't have any left over acetone on there and dried them with a paper towel.

Perfect clean up and a very, very strong join! I'm definitely remembering this for the future! Since it worked so nicely, I thought I'd share the tidbit.

 

[10 ball]

Nice one, will get some and give it a try

 

[Elric2k]

Oh thanks for the info Kath! I picked this stuff up and I must say I really really like it. Speaking as someone who has always had a problem with gap filling and having smooth joints, the experiments I've done using a little water to help smooth this liquid stuff have been successful, and now your little awesome tidbit about acetone, I think I'm done with normal green stuff altogether now! Thansk for sharing!

 

[RuneBrush]

I actually used my pot on the Rhinox from my Ironblaster over the weekend and quite like it other than the bit of sinking I had. Very interesting that you can clean it up with a cotton bud and acetone - I'll have to try with rubbing alcohol later on if I get time to see if it has the same effect. For me it's not going to replace green stuff but certainly speeds up certain types of gap.

Oh not sure how you actually apply your liquid green stuff, but a rubber sculpting tool is ace as it cleans off easily and can be used to force the L-GS around.

 

[Snapshot_Superhero]

So, just so I'm understanding you correctly, you were able to smooth out the green stuff and essentially "blend" it after it was dry with acetone?

I need to pick up some of this stuff.

 

[kathrynloch]

No problem, Elric! Glad I could help. With you being in Spokane, if you have a Dollar General store nearby, they have some really nice pointed cotton swabs in the cosmetics section for a $1. These are spun really tight so they don't fall apart so easily and they make it a lot easier to get in the tight corners. The ones you at Walmart and pharmacies like CVS are more expensive and fall apart at the drop of a hat. I've got ones for model work made by Tamiya but those are really pricey and I only use them for uber-fine hairing detail on the model horses.

 

[Elric2k]

Snapshot, I think that is essentially what shes saying, I was able to do it with water as well after letting it sit for just about a minute. I'm like RuneBrush, i've been using the rubber sculpting tool, mine has the interchangeable magnetized tips, and it really makes short work of gap filling. I gap filled my giant arachnok goblin spider thing, using all liquid green stuff, and it took me 15 minutes to fill them all and smooth them all out. I'm not a big fan of GW lately, what with their "fine"cast blunders, but this stuff is worth its weight in gold to me.

And Kath, awesome tip with those cotton swabs, im all over that! I dont dread prepping minis anymore, yay!

 

[kathrynloch]

So, just so I'm understanding you correctly, you were able to smooth out the green stuff and essentially "blend" it after it was dry with acetone?

I need to pick up some of this stuff.

Snapshot, I think that is essentially what shes saying, I was able to do it with water as well after letting it sit for just about a minute. I'm like RuneBrush, i've been using the rubber sculpting tool, mine has the interchangeable magnetized tips, and it really makes short work of gap filling. I gap filled my giant arachnok goblin spider thing, using all liquid green stuff, and it took me 15 minutes to fill them all and smooth them all out. I'm not a big fan of GW lately, what with their "fine"cast blunders, but this stuff is worth its weight in gold to me.

And Kath, awesome tip with those cotton swabs, im all over that! I dont dread prepping minis anymore, yay!

Sorta...here's let me demonstrate.

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That's a pretty goobered up wheel. This was the first time I used the stuff so was still getting the hang of it. So, one bottle of nail polish remover, 1 cheapo pointed swab and 60 seconds later.....

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There ya go. I can actually remove the green stuff entirely if I want but smoothing is also correct to an extent. Because the green stuff is in the gap and I'm not trying to get into the gap with the swab - only go over the top - I still have a filled gap.

I'm not "blending" or moving the green stuff after it's cured. But filing is essentially the same thing - you're removing, sanding off the GS. This is just a faster and neater way to do it.

And Elric, thanks for the water smoothing idea. I'll try that too. I think between both techniques, gap filling has just been revolutionized. :rotfl:

 

[QuietiManes]

Tamiya, Vallejo, Squadron, drywall filler...to name but a few "pre-revolution" gap filling goop type product vendors. :bashful:

I'm surprised the acetone doesn't start to melt the plastic in that time. I guess as long as you don't soak it (the plastic), it'll dry immediately.

 

[kathrynloch]

And I think I have all of those somewhere around here. lol! I've experimented with a number of fillers trying to find something that works for me and most I couldn't get the hang of 'em. They just ended up being more work. I was very cautious trying the acetone because I too was worried about it melting the plastic. But with that swab - there's just not a whole lot on there. And you can see by the color and condition of the swab, I'm not rubbing very hard at all. I just take off a little at a time and literally within a few seconds, it's right where I want it.

 

[Einion]

Tamiya, Vallejo, Squadron, drywall filler...to name but a few "pre-revolution" gap filling goop type product vendors. :bashful:

As well as MagicSculp, Apoxie Sculpt or Apoxie Clay, Kneadatite, ProCreate, A+B and Milliput of course. And for something quite like the new GW product (much cheaper of course) one of the pigmented acrylic mediums or modelling pastes, e.g. these.

Einion

 

[kathrynloch]

Holy cow guys, chill. My "revolution" comment was just a joke. I didn't mean to start a thing over gap filling products, I just wanted to share something that worked for me and I found interesting. Next time I'll just keep my mouth shut.

 

[Snapshot_Superhero]

Haha, thank you for the photos. I appreciate the input, and I will definitely have to try this stuff out.

 

[Einion]

Holy cow guys, chill. My "revolution" comment was just a joke. I didn't mean to start a thing over gap filling products, I just wanted to share something that worked for me and I found interesting. Next time I'll just keep my mouth shut.

I think we're all sufficiently chilled Serious point though, no matter how good the tip provided it is always worth mentioning other products that might do a job as well or better, especially if it's also more easily or faster and/or at lower cost.

Since so many people do already have an epoxy of one kind or another they might not even realise that they're already sorted for this kind of job and don't need to fork out for anything else...

Einion

 

[QuietiManes]

*slams fist on desk*

Gap filling is serious business!

Missy!!!

*shakes fist in air*


I was just joking around. If the liquid green stuff does add quite a bit of strength to the joint it could be something to consider, over the others. It's hard to find something that needs no prep work (like mixing and such), fills the gap quickly, sticks well and hardens up enough to really be useful in all respects. Most things I can think of used for fillers fail at one or more of those aspects. Plus, I'll take a few seconds of acetone on a Q-Tip over sanding and filing and blending any day of the week.

I had originally totally written the product off, but now I'm reconsidering. I have a closed mind with regard to GW lately...which isn't a good thing, so thank you for opening it back up Kathryn (just a little bit, not all the way, it is still GW after all).

 

[kathrynloch]

lol! I hear ya QM on the GW part. So much of their stuff is low quality and exorbitantly overpriced. But the liquid green stuff i had to try and I got it for a good price from an online independent retailer. Since I wanted to order the Necrons to sell on ebay anyway, I had them throw it in. So I was pleasantly surprised, what am I saying - it was more like stunned. when it worked as nicely as it did.

 

[10 ball]

Got some liquid green on last Saturday - great stuff highly recommend