Farseer WIP
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Hi Elric2k
I have made a small guide of the technique and also showing some of the mistakes that i did. I painted this in one hour so the result will not be the same as in my painting but the understanding of how I made it will be there.
First of picture of "test" figure. I made the cloak black/darkblue and also painted some surrounding areas just to show some things later on. No time spent on quality painting here thick layers of paint
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Next step is to put some star´s on the cloak. I use an old children’s toothbrush for this. The most important thing here is that the paint can´t be too diluted.
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When using the toothbrush I put some colour on the top part and then I usually remove some colour by lightly touching some paper. After that I use my finger to bend the toothbrush area that has colour on it and release it. Depending on the amount of colour loaded on the toothbrush and the dilution of paint and range from toothbrush to figure the result will vary. Please try out on a test figure to get the hang of it before you do the real piece that you want to do (this is a reminder to me also, will explain later)
Now we have stars on the cloak and almost all over the rest of the figure. I did this on purpose too show how important it is to mask the other areas of the whole figure not to get paint there.
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I now proceed with the painting of the gas clouds and getting some colours in there.
Below are two pictures showing the paint consistence that I used to paint the gas clouds. the first pic is from the wet palette. The second picture have colour on a paper towel. The top line of paint is straight from the can and no dilution as a reference. I then load the brush with paint and then use the paper towel to remove paint in the brush until I reach the result of the last line and not much paint is left in the brush.
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Below I have applied in the colour with a brushstroke that goes a little forward and back in a diagonal line; I have used around 12 layers of Turquoise colour to reach this stage.
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I now speed things up a little to get to the end results. I have used thicker layers of colours then normally from now on where the gas clouds are painted. I have added purple colour to the cloak and some areas with purple I have used almost white colour. The white colour will be blended in multiple layers of a purple glaze until I am happy.
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I also go forward and back at this stage with a lot of different colurs and add glazes in different areas, I could use red, green and yellow for example to add more interest and life to the painting. very thin layers. I also specifically add different glazed colours to the stars to have them shine in different colours which also should make them appear to look slightly different and also give depth to the painting.
I also with a very thin glaze of the original base colour go over the whole cloak or parts of it depending on where I feel it is needed, this smooth thing out a little and bring back some harmony to the overall effect. Below is picture of the glaze of base colour and on the paper towel also some purple glaze visible for reference on dilution.
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It now looks ok and I would normally glaze more with some yellow and red and green to give more colour contrast into the blue/black background, but I will leave it as it is below for the finishing touches in this small tutorial part. Please experiment and find out what you like.
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I then proceed with the next step and that is to use the Toothbrush again to bring back stars into the cloak, this since the first batch of stars now are not so "shiny" and covered with a lot of colour, they can still be visible but more “punch” is needed. I proceed with using the toothbrush again.
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The result above became very many stars, too gain more controll you can do the star pattern one or even two times on a paper first and then over your figure and you will get less amount of stars since there are less colour left on the toothbrush and also smaller dots will be the effect.
Next step would be to go over the stars again to add colour to them, I would use red, blue, yellow and some green glazes on the stars only. I would not put all read stars beside each other but mix the colours around the whole cloak. I would also make some star spots smaller if needed. I haven´t proceeded with this step so no picture of this part.
For last I want to show a mistake that I did on the first figure and I really would advise you not to redo this mistake since it takes a lot of time to fix. When using the toothbrush I used a white colour that was too much diluted and the result was more like small raindrops with colour had fallen down on the cloak and it didn´t look like stars. Some of them even started to float around.
Below is a picture of the mistake recreated on the front of the test figure for you to see the result.
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That is it; hope that you will have use of this information.
Keep on painting.
/Kretcher
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SkelettetS
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wohoo great effect. too uncontrolled for my taste though, i wouldnt dare doing this way. id probably do some dots with a sharp toothpick or something. but again, you seemed to pull it off
me_in_japan
New member
nice tutorial! I can see myself using this on eldar tanks. Thanks, dude
wohoo great effect. too uncontrolled for my taste though, i wouldnt dare doing this way. id probably do some dots with a sharp toothpick or something. but again, you seemed to pull it off
Hi skel, yes a little uncontrollable
but on the other hand the randomness adds to feel of stars. you can control things a little more than I did in the tutorial. For example you can do the star pattern one to two times on a paper first and then over your figure and you will get less stars since there are less colour left on the toothbrush and also smaller dots will be the effect. (will add information into tutorial post)/Kretcher
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Coyotebreaks
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really like your paint scheme on the farseer. Might have to nick it.
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sagh
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When you first talked about doing this I wasn't sure if this would look good.
But I was wrong!
Great work!
Like SkelettetS said, it's an uncontrolled technique... but the final random effect is truly great!
And the tutorial... also very good!
But I was wrong!
Great work!
Like SkelettetS said, it's an uncontrolled technique... but the final random effect is truly great!
And the tutorial... also very good!
sagh
New member
In the staff, there's a little bit of golden paint in the strip of cloth.
Is it supposed to be like that?
In regards to the technique, I believe that it can become much more controlled, if one practices it more. It is as most tools the more you use them the more control and knowledge you will get. Of course there will always be a random pattern of how the Stars fall down on the figure. But you can choice which direction the splattering effect is launched also height from the figure and amount of paint on toothbrush should allow for more control. This is first try for me and if I use this again on another figure I will get more practice too become better with this tool
That is if I do use it again. I will try to use a toothpick as Skel mentioned and see what kind of result I get and see which I do prefer.
No there shouldn´t be any gold on the cloth part
Guess I have too look there and do some touchupsHave started with the golden/yellow lines and also "sculpted" the stone base and painted it. Not happy with the colours of the stones, believe that I need more contrast. Was also thinking to add some grass and snow... have tried making snow on another figure and well, it didn´t look that good. I tried using bicarbonate and glue. Not sure that I will add snow...
Please comment on stones and lines and other improvement that you can see and I will try to add them (If I like them )
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/Kretcher
Please comment on stones and lines and other improvement that you can see and I will try to add them (If I like them
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Meph
Cat-herder Extraordinaire
Alrighty awesome work, let's crank the comments up a notch.
Hmmm, there are two area's that my eye floated to.
First is the front lower bit of his robe. The lower right side of the model seems to have a lot less detail than the rest of the model. Although I can't seem to come up with something for the robe that might solve it. A pinstripe or pattern might make it look too busy again and some sort of icon would not sit well either. Besides, the blending is such a joy to look at, it would be a shame to cover it up.
But perhaps something on his base then? Something paler than the rest of the stones and in the same colour range as the pale colours on the model. Something like even a lighter stone, or a ruined wraithbone icon, maybe even a plant or a flower, a small indigenous critter? Nothing too distracting but just something subtle that balances the look.
The second bit is the back of his scarf/collar. The large pale grey area is kind of distracting your eye away from the detailed cloak. Something to soften up the look would suit it nicely. Nothing that contrasts too much but something that blends it in with the look of the rest of the model. Perhaps a muted, purple pinstripe, clean and flowing along the edge or a more curvy, organic and detailed pattern.
I think that would frame the cloak quite nicely together with the golden lines.
That being said... gorgeous, gorgeous work so far, mate!
Hmmm, there are two area's that my eye floated to.
First is the front lower bit of his robe. The lower right side of the model seems to have a lot less detail than the rest of the model. Although I can't seem to come up with something for the robe that might solve it. A pinstripe or pattern might make it look too busy again and some sort of icon would not sit well either. Besides, the blending is such a joy to look at, it would be a shame to cover it up.
But perhaps something on his base then? Something paler than the rest of the stones and in the same colour range as the pale colours on the model. Something like even a lighter stone, or a ruined wraithbone icon, maybe even a plant or a flower, a small indigenous critter? Nothing too distracting but just something subtle that balances the look.
The second bit is the back of his scarf/collar. The large pale grey area is kind of distracting your eye away from the detailed cloak. Something to soften up the look would suit it nicely. Nothing that contrasts too much but something that blends it in with the look of the rest of the model. Perhaps a muted, purple pinstripe, clean and flowing along the edge or a more curvy, organic and detailed pattern.
I think that would frame the cloak quite nicely together with the golden lines.
That being said... gorgeous, gorgeous work so far, mate!
Willdorling
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Looking really good on the cape, love the stars. The slot/notch in the middle back/bottom of the cape I think needs to be more defined. IMO it should be dark dark dark.
Agree with Meph on the hood/neck section, a pinstipe would look great on the light cloth.
I cannot remember if you said at the begining that you were after a more muted look on this fella and I think it looks great. That said, some of the areas seem to need a more crisp boundary. My eye is drawn to the staff, belt detail and the cloth sash hanging off the sash.
All this is nit picking as I think this mini is shaping up really nicely. Cannot wait to see the finished product.
Great work, keep it up!
Agree with Meph on the hood/neck section, a pinstipe would look great on the light cloth.
I cannot remember if you said at the begining that you were after a more muted look on this fella and I think it looks great. That said, some of the areas seem to need a more crisp boundary. My eye is drawn to the staff, belt detail and the cloth sash hanging off the sash.
All this is nit picking as I think this mini is shaping up really nicely. Cannot wait to see the finished product.
Great work, keep it up!
Hi, first update for some months... never did finnish the last figure well have started with some Malifaux figure to get started with paiting again. Not aiming for the same quality here but more towards gaming quality.
For some reason thou the skirt/dress is not easy to do for me and I have a hard time to put the higlights and shadows right on this one. Any suggestions would be appriciated. It molstly becomes a "striped dress"
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And actually nice to post pictures of a started figure again. Started yesterday with this one.
PS I will finish the farseer one day...
/Kretcher
well have started with some Malifaux figure to get started with paiting again. Not aiming for the same quality here but more towards gaming quality. For some reason thou the skirt/dress is not easy to do for me and I have a hard time to put the higlights and shadows right on this one. Any suggestions would be appriciated. It molstly becomes a "striped dress"
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And actually nice to post pictures of a started figure again. Started yesterday with this one.
PS I will finish the farseer one day...
/Kretcher
SkelettetS
New member
ha! there you are! we were a bit concerned about you, just disappeared
really great start on a cool miniature :good:
really great start on a cool miniature :good:
HI there Skel nice that you like it, Hopefully I will stay in touch with you all more and have some more time now for Painting, Just had 30 min yesterday so no updates on that side. Basically just started basecolors on the other figures in the Kirai team. Hopefully there will be more time this coming evening for Kirai paiting.
Also saw pictures of your GD entrys nice as usual, Perhaps next year I will go to one GD to look at some figures and be inspired might even bring a painted one and with some luck hope for a finalist pin. Well let set that as a goal...
/Kretcher
Also saw pictures of your GD entrys nice as usual, Perhaps next year I will go to one GD to look at some figures and be inspired
might even bring a painted one and with some luck hope for a finalist pin. Well let set that as a goal.../Kretcher
Hi All,
An update on this evenings painting and soon I will be of to make my son sleep. Have tested a new technique for me, have made simple bases that I want to look like wood. Have used oil colors for part of the work and I had to rework them some times to get use to the way the oil colors behaves.
Have also painted more on Kirai and well will call the blue parts mostly done and now thinking if the other parts should be a light White/Grey/blue or Orange or a combination of the two. there are some test of both colors in the pictures.
Comments really welcomed on which colors I should choice.
First of the base
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Front of Kirai
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Back of Kirai
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As mentioned above comments are welcome both good, bad, outrageous and all other versions
/Kretcher
An update on this evenings painting and soon I will be of to make my son sleep. Have tested a new technique for me, have made simple bases that I want to look like wood. Have used oil colors for part of the work and I had to rework them some times to get use to the way the oil colors behaves.
Have also painted more on Kirai and well will call the blue parts mostly done and now thinking if the other parts should be a light White/Grey/blue or Orange or a combination of the two. there are some test of both colors in the pictures.
Comments really welcomed on which colors I should choice.
First of the base
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Front of Kirai
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Back of Kirai
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As mentioned above comments are welcome both good, bad, outrageous and all other versions
/Kretcher
