Army painter product questions

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Cleezy

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Hi all,

Been a while since I have posted but after a turbulent year or so I am back on with painting my armies.

Just a few questions regarding army painter products.

The colour sprays - are these any good? I am painting an empire army in Marienburg colours (half yellow/red with blue accent) and I have been thinking about using the yellow spray over hycote grey primer. My questions really relate to the coverage of the spray and strength of the colour as I do not want the yellow to be 1) too dull 2) cover too thickly.

My second question then relates to quickshade, again is this any good? Easy to use? Does it provide a pretty even shade?

If anybody can give any help/advice with this that would be great.

Thanks
 
ced1106

ced1106

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Found this video which reviews Army Painter Primer Plate Mail, and their dip. Results look good. The painter mentions highlighting after dipping. Skip to the end of the video for a "before and after" of the dip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oigIQJSrzi0

I know BoardGameGeek favors the dip method, so you can also ask questions there. I'm curious how far CMON artists got with the dip!
 
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Ted Jarrow

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Hello, I made a 20 minute video on the new primers. They were all pretty good. The army green had a chalky finish but apart from that very nice. http://youtu.be/bBXWmodXWww
the anti shine spray can be problematic if you are in humid conditions hot or cold. Must be a dry day.
 
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Ted Jarrow

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Regarding dips. Very good if you shake off excess dip, don't leave it to globulate. Very good for historical or horde armies where the minis are all the same. Do not use on any minis you want looking pretty. They do a great battle field mid tone and an excellent manga style dark tone.
I don't rate the light tone. Too dirty looking and very toxic if you plan on breathing anywhere near the tin.
I have photos of my Prussian army who were dipped over at Warlord Games site http://warlordgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6787&p=79578#p79578
Take a look. All bar the Prussian Line Infantry were dipped.
 
asmodai650

asmodai650

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I've used the sprays several times now. The key is spray close to the model, around 6 to 8 inches away. Any further, and the paint will usually dry before it hits the model turning it "dusty". Also, watch out for over spray. Be sure to only have the models you are spraying in the area. I made the mistake of laying everything out at once and priming a few at a time. The overspray dusted the other models, and I had to strip them before painting.
 
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Cleezy

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Cheers for all the replies so far.

Freak - how do you usually thin the quick shade? Medium or washing up liquid or something else? Also what way do you use the quickshade? I know people who just dip straight into quick shade but others who pour a little out into a separate pot and thin then dip, which way is most effective?

I have only really heard good things about their sprays I think spray splitting is all about spray range. My key question is about coverage specifically the yellow, anybody had any issues with it? I'm hoping for nice even coverage and reasonably thin layers

Cheers
 
GraveRisen

GraveRisen

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The color sprays: Really good, but they tend to dry really dry/chalky if not sprayed under the right conditions. You really need to be about a foot away, no closer or further, and apply in short bursts. I find that they're pretty.... okay as a straight basecoat, but if you prime black first THEN use the colored primers you'll get some nice results.


Quickshade: ..........

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Well if you hate painting and just need to get an army table worthy quickly and easily, go for it. i HATE the dip method. it works, but it always always always looks the same. you can tell a dipped mini from across the room. You also learn next to nothing about painting if you use the method and you'll really never improve. The quickshade itself.... you can use it like an oil wash or a GW wash with the right thinning. The dip method? F**** hate it
 
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Cleezy

New member
Thanks for the replies guys. I will make sure that I check out the the tutorials etc.

Graverisen - I don't hate painting but I am going to be painting a 2400+ point empire army with a lot of foot troops so an effective method is what I am looking for rather than improving my individual figure painting skills. A striking completely painting army will look better (even if dipped) than an army I never finish because I treated each model as an individual (as per my high elf army). Saying that I am not just spraying, dipping and voila. I will be highlighting after the dip so as you said they don't have that generic 'dipped' look. Also all characters and army focus points will be painted as individuals and it will be these where I look to improve my painting skills not the hundred plus state troops :p

Thanks again guys
 
GraveRisen

GraveRisen

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Cleezy said:
Thanks for the replies guys. I will make sure that I check out the the tutorials etc.

Graverisen - I don't hate painting but I am going to be painting a 2400+ point empire army with a lot of foot troops so an effective method is what I am looking for rather than improving my individual figure painting skills. A striking completely painting army will look better (even if dipped) than an army I never finish because I treated each model as an individual (as per my high elf army). Saying that I am not just spraying, dipping and voila. I will be highlighting after the dip so as you said they don't have that generic 'dipped' look. Also all characters and army focus points will be painted as individuals and it will be these where I look to improve my painting skills not the hundred plus state troops :p

Thanks again guys
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Oh dipping certainly has its place in large scale army painting. I think that magical balance is in using it as the second last step. basecoat, details, dip, then dullcote the shine off, and do final highlights and extra details or layers. I still don't LIKE it on a personal level, but it does what it does ;)
 
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Cleezy

New member
Graverisen - It is indeed great for the large scale it is perfect for quickly shading a lot of troops.

All of my character models will be painted without the dip :)
 
freakinacage

freakinacage

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Sorry about the late reply. The washes can be thinned with spirits. As they are spirit based, water would just ruin it.
 
freakinacage

freakinacage

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Should work fine. Some spirits are stronger than others though so it might be worth doing a little research as you don't want to affect the previous layer. I think white spirit is what I use but am with my folks atm so can't check
 
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