BloodFather of Kharnath
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Anyone have any thoughts on the new line of minis and game setting/rules? I have a few thoughts.
Both the Sigmar AND Khorne minis seem over buffed. They've gone from 28mm heroic scale to 28mm Godly Scale. They just appear more like toys to me now. Certainly less realistic. The Khorne minis look much like the last line of Khorne minis from the end of times; ugly as all hell. I feel that over time, as new editions of WHFB came out, the minis looked increasingly less squat and more life-like. Well, this is simply no longer the case. While not so much squat, they definitely take on an action-figure like appearance. No thanks. I do like the Ancient Greek hero appearance of the Sigmar figures, I just wish they had more human like proportions. The main hero from the Sigmar line, the one on the mount, is pretty cool though. As a fan of all things metallic, it gives a painter a chance to showcase their NMM/TMM skills. For this reason alone I could see myself painting the Sigmar figures.
Also it is worth mentioning that I am a display painter, but I've always closely followed the lore and rules of the game. Do I like the new rules? Yes and no. Yes, because I like that you are no longer restricted from what you bring to battle. When considering the purchase of units, I would want to spend money on a particular model, but wouldn't because they wouldn't fit into the unit requirements of the game rules (i.e., you can only have 25% character, or 25% rare units). And you can completely mix up the composition of your units, so not just a block of warriors of Chaos, now you can organize a schmorgisborg of different type models in a single unit. However, these cool things pale in comparisons to what amounts to a dumbing down of rules. Maybe I am unique in that I think complex rules mimic the complexity of warfare. I like a lot of rules that inspire realism and sound tactics. I also like a lot of distinct units, or that there are 14 or so factions to choose from. If I am not mistaken, faction isn't as important in this version. I'm not sure I like this.
I totally understand why GW is doing what they are doing with the rules. They want to make less prohibitive. You shouldn't have to spend $1200 to play. You can now pick up a boxed set of your liking and a few paints and play. Oh yeah, the rules are now on 4 pages, rather than 600, and they are free, rather than $100. You have to like the cost reductions, no matter who you are. However, as someone that enjoys complexity and factionalism, my chances of ever playing have decreased.
Finally, the lore. I really can't respect a world that isn't a world at all, but just planes of existence. I absolutely LOVED the Warhammer world. I loved the dark Gothic, Holy Roman appeal of the Empire, united with the French-like Knights with a Camelot-like appeal, versus the Vikings and Huns of the Chaos nation, vs your classic dwarves and elves...it United so much from so many beloved times and places. Now it is Planescape. And to rebuild the old world will just feel....cheap. I used to buy and read all of the books. No more.
I only hope that Mierce picks up in popularity. THOSE are excellent minis in an excellently cast world. Once they have fully fleshed out their Armies, I plan to go to every hobby shop in my area and encourage them to sell Mierce. Riot minds Trudvang seems cool too.
Both the Sigmar AND Khorne minis seem over buffed. They've gone from 28mm heroic scale to 28mm Godly Scale. They just appear more like toys to me now. Certainly less realistic. The Khorne minis look much like the last line of Khorne minis from the end of times; ugly as all hell. I feel that over time, as new editions of WHFB came out, the minis looked increasingly less squat and more life-like. Well, this is simply no longer the case. While not so much squat, they definitely take on an action-figure like appearance. No thanks. I do like the Ancient Greek hero appearance of the Sigmar figures, I just wish they had more human like proportions. The main hero from the Sigmar line, the one on the mount, is pretty cool though. As a fan of all things metallic, it gives a painter a chance to showcase their NMM/TMM skills. For this reason alone I could see myself painting the Sigmar figures.
Also it is worth mentioning that I am a display painter, but I've always closely followed the lore and rules of the game. Do I like the new rules? Yes and no. Yes, because I like that you are no longer restricted from what you bring to battle. When considering the purchase of units, I would want to spend money on a particular model, but wouldn't because they wouldn't fit into the unit requirements of the game rules (i.e., you can only have 25% character, or 25% rare units). And you can completely mix up the composition of your units, so not just a block of warriors of Chaos, now you can organize a schmorgisborg of different type models in a single unit. However, these cool things pale in comparisons to what amounts to a dumbing down of rules. Maybe I am unique in that I think complex rules mimic the complexity of warfare. I like a lot of rules that inspire realism and sound tactics. I also like a lot of distinct units, or that there are 14 or so factions to choose from. If I am not mistaken, faction isn't as important in this version. I'm not sure I like this.
I totally understand why GW is doing what they are doing with the rules. They want to make less prohibitive. You shouldn't have to spend $1200 to play. You can now pick up a boxed set of your liking and a few paints and play. Oh yeah, the rules are now on 4 pages, rather than 600, and they are free, rather than $100. You have to like the cost reductions, no matter who you are. However, as someone that enjoys complexity and factionalism, my chances of ever playing have decreased.
Finally, the lore. I really can't respect a world that isn't a world at all, but just planes of existence. I absolutely LOVED the Warhammer world. I loved the dark Gothic, Holy Roman appeal of the Empire, united with the French-like Knights with a Camelot-like appeal, versus the Vikings and Huns of the Chaos nation, vs your classic dwarves and elves...it United so much from so many beloved times and places. Now it is Planescape. And to rebuild the old world will just feel....cheap. I used to buy and read all of the books. No more.
I only hope that Mierce picks up in popularity. THOSE are excellent minis in an excellently cast world. Once they have fully fleshed out their Armies, I plan to go to every hobby shop in my area and encourage them to sell Mierce. Riot minds Trudvang seems cool too.
