sorry for the delay getting back to you xmas n new year you know how it is, anyway the first pad i did the milliputt crumbled off so i will do it again with more softner in it i did however do a what could you say emm.. more of a conversion on a spare chaos padd i had lying around its the one with a skull on top of the chaos star if you place a small circle of milliputt around the skull it covers the barbs on the star and looks kind of like a sun will let you know when the other syuff,s done.. have a prosperous new year..