hello... i\'m a 20 year old living in the philippines and i\'m trying to start out with sculpting. i\'m a big fan of clix games and wh40k and i was wondering if there would be some substitute for the kneadatite \"green-stuff\". i can\'t seem to find anything remotely close to it here in the phils. all i can find is the \"Pioneer\" epoxy resin that comes in 2 tubes and you have to mix them. does it have the same principle as that of the green stuff?.. any help would be greatly appreciated.
3rd world guy needs help
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Einion
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Hiya, first off welcome to the site!
I don\'t know Pioneer, what\'s the setting time like? Lots of hardware-store epoxy putties are designed to cure pretty fast (I have one which gives about 10 minutes) which is their only major downside as a sculpting material since that\'s way too little to sculpt even some small parts. Other than that their feel, adhesiveness and other properties can all be fine.
Can you order online? Are any of the polymer clays - e.g. Fimo, SuperSculpey - available to you in art-material stores where you are?
Einion
If it\'s a two-part putty that you blend and it hardens by itself, yeah, it\'s basically similar although GS/Kneadatite has an unusual plastic-like nature when cured (most harden to be approximately like tough resins or rigid plastics).
I don\'t know Pioneer, what\'s the setting time like? Lots of hardware-store epoxy putties are designed to cure pretty fast (I have one which gives about 10 minutes) which is their only major downside as a sculpting material since that\'s way too little to sculpt even some small parts. Other than that their feel, adhesiveness and other properties can all be fine.
Can you order online? Are any of the polymer clays - e.g. Fimo, SuperSculpey - available to you in art-material stores where you are?
Einion
Einion
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Okay, that\'s about the same for most sculpting materials we tend to use, a bit less, a bit more depending on the temperature but a good hour + is an okay starting point. Longer is better for some things but you can get around that.
Yes, GS is noted for having a bit of \'rebound\' or \'memory\'.
It\'s hard to know how bad the problem is without seeing it firsthand but mixing different proportions of resin and hardener (not 1:1) can help with this, so that\'s worth a try.
But working in stages, rather than trying to do a lot of shaping on a large blob of putty, is a good general way of working and that helps offset the problem so I\'d definitely suggest that as well.
Another thing that you might like to try is shaping through the setting process - as the putty cures you\'ll re-establishing detail and pressing in deeper and harder when the putty has begun to toughen up gives better undercuts and can give sharper edges etc. This is one of the things that can tend to separate experienced sculpting from beginner\'s stuff.
Einion
Aliengod3
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First off, eat some dinuguan for me 
Also if you have internet access should you not be able to order some of the GS or similar products online and have them shipped to you? I am not too familiar with postage in the phillies. If not then the product you described is pretty much the same concept as GS so it should work.
Also if you have internet access should you not be able to order some of the GS or similar products online and have them shipped to you? I am not too familiar with postage in the phillies. If not then the product you described is pretty much the same concept as GS so it should work.
