6\'s and 7\'s

Grizzix

Member
what would it take for my minis to get up into the solid 6 and 7 range. i\'ve had maybe 2 minis reach a 6 and so far only one of them is still in that range. advice would be most appreciated.

thanks in advance
 

Chrispy

Active member
Well, I see you\'re definatly imporving on your own. (As we all do, given time) and coming here is a good way of getting better because it allows you to see why some minis are scoring better. On some of your newer works, it looks good blending wise and such, but a few things to look out for:
control of the brush- some strokes here and ther (like the eyes of the mercenary chick) look like you need to make a pass over a cloth before attempting to paint directly on to a surface.
highlights- some have great variation in colors, but they seem kind of \"drab\". That could be a more naturla style which is good, but people here like brighter colors in general. So on some you could go with another addition of a lighter color.

Other than that all I can say is practice. That\'s the broken record advice here, but it works! :p
 

Errex

New member
Most people like clean, bright colors on minis. A 6 mini is one that shows that an effort was made to make it something apart from mere rank and file minis.

A 7 mini is a perfectly decent paintjob technically speaking, that is well executed, but doesn\'t seem to be a particularily \"inspired\" piece.
 

Cerridwyn1st

New member
Not enough contrast on skin

I think what\'s hurting you is the skintone on your minis. There isn\'t enough contrast between highlight and shadow. Look at the gallery for minis by Haley, then look back at your own and you will see what I mean.

When you look at Haley\'s stuff, use the link to her website on the bottom and take a look at her how-to\'s.

The one on skin that she had helped me a lot, but I have to say it took six months of practice to get to where I could really use the information consistantly, and if you look at my gallery you\'ll realize I still have lots of work to do.
 

Nelson

New member
Yeah, just to iterate what other people have said, ya just need a bit more contrast/highlighting on your stuff. It\'s all technically well done, very clean, and actually well blended, you just need to go the extra step. I honestly think they should be scoring higher anyways, though. :)
 

AlexDaKid

New member
I think your like me when it comes to painting Grizzix.

You see I\'m not a nice neat painter, painting something neatly requires a lot of concetration and effort on my part and I\'d rather just go nuts with the damn thing. I think you\'ve got all the relevant techniques like highlighting shading etc but its very messy.

I reckon that if you focus on one model and concentrate as hard as you can on being neat and using brush control then you will get a high 7 easy.
 

Margo

New member
There is one advise that should help: try watering down the paint. It will give your minis a cleaner, neater look.
 

Gypsy

New member
I don\'t think it\'s such a good advice to tell him to compare his minis to Jen Haley\'s to get better.

I think you should rather find out what other painters live near you and try meeting up with them in your local fantasy shop and let them show you some tricks.
And if they don\'t wanna meet ya...well then maybe this isn\'t just a good advice either.
 

Grizzix

Member
never mind. the one mini i had in the 6\'s is now a 5.8:( thanks for the advice guys. i would love to get together with other painters but it seems that everyone around here paints for WH or WH40K. they just do rank and file. i dont know anyone that paints for enjoyment.
 

supervike

Super Moderator
keep at it...

I have a few of my minis in the solid 6, but cannot seem to break into the elusive 7 territory. I think my photo skills need work, as well as painting.

The only truly way to get better is to practice. Don\'t be afraid to try different techniques, even if they seem radical at the time. Remember, you can always drop the \"mistakes\" into some Pine-Sol and start again....
 

Cerridwyn1st

New member
Originally posted by Gypsy
I don\'t think it\'s such a good advice to tell him to compare his minis to Jen Haley\'s to get better.

I think you should rather find out what other painters live near you and try meeting up with them in your local fantasy shop and let them show you some tricks.
And if they don\'t wanna meet ya...well then maybe this isn\'t just a good advice either.

Hey, Gypsy, it worked for me. :) Of course, I had Dragonsreach to look at one of my first efforts and tell me where I messed up. Even so, it took me MONTHS to develop the brush control to get nice looking skin/faces on a consistant basis.

I will agree that the best way to \"learn your chops\" is by haning out with other painters. But in this part of the contry (Grizzix and I are both in the South) there aren\'t a lot of high-level painters. It\'s even harder to connect with them face to face.

Maybe having a Games Day in Atlanta, with the attached Golden Demons, will bring some painters out of the woodwork.

Griz, I\'d suggest you come down for Grail Quest in July, I\'ll be running a demo there. The only problem is, it\'s a long trip and I don\'t think there is enough difference between your skill level and mine to make it worth the trip.

You would have a chance to enter their painting contest and play in some games, though.
 

Grizzix

Member
id love to come down but im in the process of buying a house plus all money right now is going towards taking the family to disney next week. if i was still single id probably take a bit of vacation from work, hop in the car, and go. marriage puts the brakes on impulse road tripslollollol

will the session be taped at all. hell, id buy a copy:D
 
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