A dare for the best painters in the world.
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wiccanpony
Official Freak Bar Witch
WOW! what great work.....
:flip: First, this an excellent topic, and \"thank you\" to everyone posting a close up example..this is great!!, it helps to understand some of the painting terms and techniques I’ve been reading here on CMON.
I’m a very visional type of person, I’ve given many a museum guard a heart attack getting close to old paintings by the “Master” to see how they produced a treasure in pigments. lol
:flip: First, this an excellent topic, and \"thank you\" to everyone posting a close up example..this is great!!, it helps to understand some of the painting terms and techniques I’ve been reading here on CMON.
I’m a very visional type of person, I’ve given many a museum guard a heart attack getting close to old paintings by the “Master” to see how they produced a treasure in pigments. lol
vincegamer
Active member
Glyn, I like this guy. Thanks for the pic because I can now see the nice job on the really tiny emblazon. The base edge of the bend sinister is somewhat high, but that\'s the sort of detail you could probably only realize at this magnification. Must have been hard to do those stripes so small and so straight.Originally posted by ZaPhOd
Well, this is not my best paintign by any means, but it is the closest I can get to a HUGE picture... that is clear at least
Sorry. I will see what else I have an dif I can get a good close up
p.s. If I post close-ups of my stuff will anyone be able to tell me what I\'m doing wrong?
just because I have a closeup posted already...
...although the \'best painters\' bit is offputting. While nowhere near in the same league as the folk you\'re talking about I think, I have a model posted with some close-up pics attached anyway so thought I\'d add the link (because I haven\'t figured out how to add pics yet - yes, I\'m sure it\'s really easy, but I don\'t spend much time on forums).
http://www.coolminiornot.com/index.php?id=25834
This is a Typhus I painted mid last year, and the bottom 3 pics are taken with uber-zoom on. It becomes a lot more apparent that some bits are patchy, some are grainy, and that I missed cleaning up all the edges on the sculpt.
I think it shows that there was a lot of glazing with quite thinned pale colours rather than a lot of mixing. Sorry they\'re a bit fuzzy
...although the \'best painters\' bit is offputting. While nowhere near in the same league as the folk you\'re talking about I think, I have a model posted with some close-up pics attached anyway so thought I\'d add the link (because I haven\'t figured out how to add pics yet - yes, I\'m sure it\'s really easy, but I don\'t spend much time on forums).
http://www.coolminiornot.com/index.php?id=25834
This is a Typhus I painted mid last year, and the bottom 3 pics are taken with uber-zoom on. It becomes a lot more apparent that some bits are patchy, some are grainy, and that I missed cleaning up all the edges on the sculpt.
I think it shows that there was a lot of glazing with quite thinned pale colours rather than a lot of mixing. Sorry they\'re a bit fuzzy
wowzer...
You folks need to stop with your endearing modesty!
Everyone of you who posted a pic, but then had a disclaimer \"i may not be the best painter....\" You ARE some of the best painters!!!
lollol
And, now that I see a few \'up close and personal\' I can certainly see the value of it.
Good thread, and good responses!
(even the bit about Amanthas, Barkel, and the mysterious pussy Finn was talking about!!)
You folks need to stop with your endearing modesty!
Everyone of you who posted a pic, but then had a disclaimer \"i may not be the best painter....\" You ARE some of the best painters!!!
lollol
And, now that I see a few \'up close and personal\' I can certainly see the value of it.
Good thread, and good responses!
(even the bit about Amanthas, Barkel, and the mysterious pussy Finn was talking about!!
)
All these close ups make me realize just how important thin paint is. Iffen I\'m not mistaken Cyril uses the uberthin paint method which is quite apparent in his ultra close up of the celtois hottie. In some of the others I can see paint grain. Makes me wish I had a camera so I could ridicule me own work Anyway, very interesting. Seems to that the more layers you put on the better things will look when viewed ultra close. Nothing I didn\'t pretend to know already, but this is a great reminder. Is there any other technique issue that I\'m glossing over? I don\'t feel satisfied in my assessment. Guess I should stop trying to be a knowit all cuz I don\'t.
Kazar
-Words are the Greatest Illusion of them all
Anyway, very interesting. Seems to that the more layers you put on the better things will look when viewed ultra close. Nothing I didn\'t pretend to know already, but this is a great reminder. Is there any other technique issue that I\'m glossing over? I don\'t feel satisfied in my assessment. Guess I should stop trying to be a knowit all cuz I don\'t. Kazar
-Words are the Greatest Illusion of them all
It\'s an Olympus Camedia 5050 Zoom.
It has a minimum focal length of 2cm (about 4/5th of an inch)
That\'s in focus. Some of the blurry effects are actually the way the paint dried. I know it\'s in focus because it is a hard camera to focus for macro work, so I take multiple shots starting for to close, moving it slightly until it\'s too far. I move until it\'s noticably out of focus.
Then, when looking at the images on the computer I pick the best.
I think the graininess is an excellent example of just how important a good basecoat is.
I\'ve had a bit of problems with grainy basecoats, especially with white spraypaints. Here\'s a few tips I got from Passion Figurine.
Buff the bare metal with that green plastic dish scrubber, or even steel wool.
Apply the primer in 4-5 thin coats
Anyway, so the grainyness is from the primer. If you want the perfect miniature you cannot ignore or cheat on any part of the process. Something I\'m going to have to come to grips with.
BTW, I think I had some of the epiphany I was looking for. The really great painters are using the techniques of Maxfield Parrish - basically building an opaque image with transparent colours. Something I didn\'t want to believe, because it means a lot more work.
It has a minimum focal length of 2cm (about 4/5th of an inch)
That\'s in focus. Some of the blurry effects are actually the way the paint dried. I know it\'s in focus because it is a hard camera to focus for macro work, so I take multiple shots starting for to close, moving it slightly until it\'s too far. I move until it\'s noticably out of focus.
Then, when looking at the images on the computer I pick the best.
I think the graininess is an excellent example of just how important a good basecoat is.
I\'ve had a bit of problems with grainy basecoats, especially with white spraypaints. Here\'s a few tips I got from Passion Figurine.
Buff the bare metal with that green plastic dish scrubber, or even steel wool.
Apply the primer in 4-5 thin coats
Anyway, so the grainyness is from the primer. If you want the perfect miniature you cannot ignore or cheat on any part of the process. Something I\'m going to have to come to grips with.
BTW, I think I had some of the epiphany I was looking for. The really great painters are using the techniques of Maxfield Parrish - basically building an opaque image with transparent colours. Something I didn\'t want to believe, because it means a lot more work.
petethemighty
New member
Extreme Close up
Well, here you go....
This is the very very close up image of the shield from my Boromir figure. The inset image on the left shows the shield at around actual size... and on the right is a pic that show the shield more like it looks in real life (when you look up close) If you save the image you should be able to zoom in a bit more, as it is fairly high resolution (although my photo skills are poor, my camera is cool ) The image is not very flattering, but it shows how I go about creating the impression of such a detailed piece of work on such a small space....
Hope it helps
Thanks - Pete
Well, here you go....
This is the very very close up image of the shield from my Boromir figure. The inset image on the left shows the shield at around actual size... and on the right is a pic that show the shield more like it looks in real life (when you look up close) If you save the image you should be able to zoom in a bit more, as it is fairly high resolution (although my photo skills are poor, my camera is cool
) The image is not very flattering, but it shows how I go about creating the impression of such a detailed piece of work on such a small space....Hope it helps
Thanks - Pete
darthfoley
Active member
I still can\'t get the shots as good as you can Glyn, same camera, same settings. =/
ZaPhOd
Super Moderator
Okay, maybe it is the light as well. I have a new long neon light with an adjustable neck that I put longways just above th ecamera, and a daylight lamp that is fairly high overhead lighting. The camera is from 10 to 12 inches from the figure I would guess. Pretty much just tried a few shots with the camera moving a little closer and that was about it for clarity. Beyond that, it would start to blur. I think my light was a bit close though.
Pete, thanks for posting that! It may or may not help
(depends on my steady or not so steady hands...)