Originally posted by generulpoleaxe
Originally posted by Avelorn
@gpa: He is not Marxist by a mile (or his hiding it well) and haven\'t been for very long. What is this Marxist organisation you speak of? Government interventionism is not reserved for marxists or even leftists. I read an article on Gordon Brown some time ago, while not entirely accurate it still has a point:
http://www.theliberal.co.uk/issue_9/columns/kaletsky_9.html
This socialisation of dept and privatisation of profit is not Marxism. If he was - why does Marxists in Britain loath Gordon Brown then? He\'s \"New Labour\" and \"the third way\" to the fingertips.
Originally posted by reverend
What is this America of which you speak, and what is an Obama?
WOW WTF?! Read some books, mate! America is a county in Great Britain and Barrack Obama is AWESOME! Jeez...
he is a fabian mate , they believe in creeping communism.
bringing it in slowly, one step at a time instead of suddenly, pop, it\'s their and you didn\'t see it.
well the UK is seeing it all right.
the police force is now in the hands of a private company (acpo) that is anwerable to the home office, not to the queen or the people.
pcso\'s (police officers without any real powers) are being used instead of real police officers in greater numbers, they can not arrest people, they give out on the spot fines.
more and more council workers are being given powers for handing out on the spot fines (including being able to go through peoples rubbish to see if they are recycling properly, and if not, then a fine is issued)
councils workers abusing their powers, which breach UK laws yet the goverment backs them by holding select commitees instead of the courts handling the cases.
members of the goverments cabinet refusing to go before select commitees (by parlimentary rule they have to!)
parlimentary acts and bills not being put before the house of commons, instead being put into the footnotes of other acts and bills and then the the debating time being drasticly reduced, so that people can not raise complaint about the contents (which are worded so vague that they can mean literaly anything!)
all the while eroding peoples rights and UK justice system.
and a constant increase in the public sector (they are still creating non jobs and increasing council pensions and salaries)
civil servant commitees created that somehow have more power than parliment! (that\'s unelected officials)
lobby groups growing in number to back up goverment projects with statistics that are constantly proved to be so false it\'s ridiculous, charities started up by ex civil servants that act as lobby groups, christ one of them does leadership courses but only for selected people, wholey funded by goverment money[that\'s tax payers money] and these people get boosted through the public system at a rather fast rate)
and don\'t ask about the education, when global warming replaces parts of science (and it has) then you know even the academic future of the UK is screwed.
they complain about a skills defisit, well it was labour who closed down the polytechnics and reclassified them as universities, which got rid of the skills training!
and all of this crap is just part of how messed up this country is.
blame other countries, other governments, our government, everyone. this is a global economy now and to put blame on a handful of people is just idiotic... it has taken time, a whole of time to get this world into the state it is in and i cant help but think more and more about the \"moral\" to watchmen in the end. the world really has gotten the last joke. and no one is laughing because it is bitter and filled with hate.
