A scale question

[lizcam]

I\'m looking at doll house stuff and they have this section for 1/144\" scale items. I\'m looking for kitchenware and other items for atmosphere on my bases and was wondering how this all translates to 28-30mm minis. I\'m not good at math. Any help please?

A note: This is far smaller than the average doll house stuff wich is generally either 1\'/1\" or 1\'/ 1/2 inch.

 

[Torn blue sky]

Give them 1/1 scale utensils!

\"Mah spooon is too big!\"

 

[generulpoleaxe]

generaly, 28mm figures fall any where between 1/48 and 1/56.

problem is that 28mm isn\'t a scale, it\'s a size.

keep a mini in your handbag and if you can find stuff in a shop check it against the miniature.
it\'s the best way.

enion knows a hell of a lot more on model scales, p.m him.

 

[Undave]

1/144 is pretty damn small. IIRC it\'s a scale mainly used for model planes, not fighter size planes either, we\'re talking passenger jet sized planes here.

As far as I understand it 1/144 works out as 1 inch in real size would equal 12 feet in scale size. That means that a 12\" dinner plate would be 1/12th of an inch in diameter. So a bit too small for 28mm.

 

[lizcam]

Originally posted by Undave
1/144 is pretty damn small. IIRC it\'s a scale mainly used for model planes, not fighter size planes either, we\'re talking passenger jet sized planes here.

As far as I understand it 1/144 works out as 1 inch in real size would equal 12 feet in scale size. That means that a 12\" dinner plate would be 1/12th of an inch in diameter. So a bit too small for 28mm.

wow. It sure is. hmmmm. I need to find some in/scale kitchen ware. Been browsing the internet but dollhouse stuff is either too big or too small. Any ideas?

 

[Thunderhawker]

build it?

 

[jahminis]

i second that...practice your sculptin\' with knives and spoons...maybe a rollin\' pin, or a skillet...shouldn\'t be too difficult...

cheers
jah

 

[Shadzar]

1:64 = 25mm = S scale
1:58 = 28mm
1:54 = 30mm
1:48 = 33.5mm = O scale

GW and Reaper are mostly \"heroic\" 25mm, meaning they are closer to 28-30mm scale.

Anything within these ranges should look reasonable assuming your miniature is not in some way chibi.

The model train scale comparision is there for use with terrain building and basing materials.

1:13 = 120mm for reference as close as i know to the actual dollhouse measures you give.

 

[Dragonsreach]

Have a look at This Article it might help you out.

I\'m trying to recall the names of miniature companies who make such accessories without much success I\'m afraid. I\'m 90% sure Reaper do a set of stuff like this and if I recall correctly Tzor did some small scale furniture \"bits n pieces\".

As for dolls house stuff I\'ve found very little which would assist the 28mm aspect of modelling.

 

[Hinton]

OK, just a random kind of thought here:

If a \"regular\" 28MM mini is 1 1/2\" tall and represents a person that is 6\' tall, does that mean that each 1/2\" is equal to 2 feet?

Or am I looking at this completely wrong?

 

[Dragonsreach]

Originally posted by Hinton
OK, just a random kind of thought here:

If a \"regular\" 28MM mini is 1 1/2\" tall and represents a person that is 6\' tall, does that mean that each 1/2\" is equal to 2 feet?

Or am I looking at this completely wrong?

Slightly, the 28mm scale normally refers to the height at the eye level, not the crown of the head.

 

[airhead]

@Hinton, pretty close. Trouble is that the companies do not measure the same.

28 mm
Top of head to toe for 6\' man
eye level to bottom of feet for 6\' man
Top of head to bottom of base
Top of head to bottom of feet for 5\'+ \'average\' man.

D&D kinda locked in the ground (map) scale at 1\" = 5\' (1/60 scale) which is why most of the old school stuff is 25 mm but they and the modern 28 mm minis are actuall a bit oversized.

Doh, DR beat me to the post.

 

[MPJ]

Scale doesn\'t really seem to apply to most modern minis as they are rarely done to proper preportions even when translating the mm rating to a scale.

A good place to start looking though is the model world. 1/48 which is popular with aircraft models and 1/35 which is popular with military vehicles and such often look good against modern \'heroic\' scale minis even though they arn\'t really the same \'scale. For old school 25mm minis 1/72 scale (another popular scale for model aircraft and others) is supposed to match up and often does but I still find you have to bump it up a bit to look proper.

You should be able to find the accessories you are looking for in any of these popular model scales I mentioned. Either as an accessory package from a big manufacturer (like Tamiya, Revell, Airfix, Dragon, etc...) or as a smaller selection/specialized selection from a \'botique\' size manufacturer.

Item CD6104 from THIS LINK might be what you are looking for? Try a google search like \"1/35 scale kitchen\" or such.

 

[Shadzar]

Originally posted by airhead
@Hinton, pretty close. Trouble is that the companies do not measure the same.

28 mm
Top of head to toe for 6\' man
eye level to bottom of feet for 6\' man
Top of head to bottom of base
Top of head to bottom of feet for 5\'+ \'average\' man.

D&D kinda locked in the ground (map) scale at 1\" = 5\' (1/60 scale) which is why most of the old school stuff is 25 mm but they and the modern 28 mm minis are actuall a bit oversized.

Doh, DR beat me to the post.

not all scale is measured to top of the head. some measure eye height.

say you had two 25mm minis. one measured at eyelevel to 25mm would be taller than one measured at head level at 25mm.

that is the problem with scales. there really isnt a uniform one that all places go by.

this is the thing i use most often to figure scale with a little railroad information thrown in there with it.

http://theminiaturespage.com/ref/scales.html

i wonder if the sculptors here at CMoN use a scale or jsut make what looks right comparatively to what they are scultping a whole mini for, and what scale they do use if they try to conform to one.

as much as i like D&D and its hexes and such at 5\', i think the minis have always looked funny considering every race save for the \"halfling\" ones are taller than a flat 60\".

someone needs to make a scale for minis and get all these places to stick to it!

I also think the newest D&D minis are moving to a larger scale. that or they are jsut being affect by size creep with their new CAD methods of sculpting minis.

but that is mostly another topic.

 

[Einion]

Originally posted by lizcam
I need to find some in/scale kitchen ware. Been browsing the internet but dollhouse stuff is either too big or too small. Any ideas?

Putty here you come

Einion

 

[Avelorn]

Originally posted by Einion

Originally posted by lizcam
I need to find some in/scale kitchen ware. Been browsing the internet but dollhouse stuff is either too big or too small. Any ideas?

Putty here you come

Einion

Don\'t listen to him! I have a one-of-a-kind shrinking machine for sale if you just PM me and have a paypal account we can discuss the details!

 

[Hinton]

@DR and airhead: Thanks for the info; it\'ll be really helpful for some stuff I\'m working on.

 

[fenriskw]

Liz, 1/48 is not only O scale in model railroading it is also a scale used for a fair amount of armor modeling (tanks, vehicles, etc) along with their attendant people models. That means that there are also accessories around for those 1/48 figures.

I would take a look at the Squadron Shop online (sorry I don\'t have the url handy at the moment). They should have 1/48 figure accessories that might give you what you want.

 

[freakinacage]

Originally posted by Avelorn

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don\'t listen to him, i paid a premium price for that and the time machine and neither work!!

 

[Dragonsreach]

Lizcam
Have a look here

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