A Workshop on Real Metallics

redarmy27

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Well I was just about to do the nicer photo shoot of the general until I realized that the battery on my camera was dead. *Facepalm* I had everything all set up too...light box set up, lighting perfect....

Anyways, Scott, the greens I have been using for the Nurgle knight are P3\'s Ordic Olive and for the hightlighting Wurm Green. I love those colors. I should almost be able to knock out the Nurgle knight today if I work on it.

Jake
 

Starks333

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just to add a bit more...the colour you add to metals changes the type of metal, or the environment its in, or the atmosphere to it

for example...on silvers

blue steel, is very cold
green makes armour feel more rotted or worn
browns add a more weathered feel(rusts and dirtied)
red, orange, yellow, teal, purple add colourful interest...in intense amounts they create neat appearences

for coloured metals:

teals and greens usually create an oxidized effect
yellows help brighten highlights
oranges and reds help enrichen the colour
purples deepen the colour
browns are a warmer more neutral shade for coloured metals

i dislike inks on metallics, unless doing blood or in minimal amounts to add a bit of texture(to make the metal feel a bit more oily, wet or whatever)


and so on :p
 

Monkeysplitters

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makes sense, yeah metallics are hard but look so awesome.

Also, sorry redarmy I didnt intentionally try and thread jack but it worked out kinda perfect. Post that photo so we can get back to talkn about your knight.
 

redarmy27

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Oh no worries about that; it\'s always good to see a post become something good for everyone to look at, especially when it comes to metals.

Here he be:
General1-1.jpg

General3-1.jpg


Voting link! http://www.coolminiornot.com/205383

Happy Painting!

Jake
 

ScottRadom

Shogun of Saskatchewan
Beauty work amigo! Likes it a lot! I think your metals worked out great and you should defo stick it out for the rest of your chaos project.

Now..... show me NURGLE!
 

Monkeysplitters

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i like the base, simple but not to simple.

Also what did u use to shade the steel on the horse? black? cause it looks really great almost like its been blacked with soot.
 

redarmy27

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Thanks!

Don\'t worry, I\'ll get that chaos knight of Nurgle goodness out as soon as possible.

I do like the base a lot. I wanted to keep it simple to emulate a barren landscape, but, at the same time, make it look like a finished base.

I took everyone\'s advice about the washes and applied them in areas where \"shades\" and grime would naturally occur on something such as armor. (Watching Braveheart and Kingdom of Heaven really helped!)

I think the bad boy turned out pretty well. Now to get back to painting my rotting one...
 

Dragonsreach

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Originally posted by Monkeysplitters
Also, i was reading an article on here a while ago, cant remember who it was by, he he suggested that the washes are dependent on the overall color scheme of the model. but in the context he was using steel (iron, silver, etc) and not gold. you guys think that still works with gold. cause imo silverish metallics are alot more neutral and gold isnt so much.
Yes I suppose some metals are neutral as they, in reality, are toned due to their reflective qualites as well as differing metalurgical composition.
Next time you can, stop and look in a jewellers window display especially at any 3gold items. You\'ll see that Gold varies between a Pale Yellow, through to a \"Red/Orange brown\" Yellow.
Also try to see if you can make out how the surfaces pick up both light and shadow to form he highlights as well as how the window display uses differing background colours to enhance the appeal of certain items. (A number of jewellers use red or warm colours with gold to affect the colour and make it more appealing.)

Iron can vary from a brown grey to a black grey, without rust and up to a close Grey-White with polishing.
Steel can vary from a Strong Blue tone (think ultramarine tint) through blue gray(Space wolvesgrey) up to a Near white.

Add in the reflective qualites to show stuff like sashes, belts etc and there\'s another level of colour to consider. Throw rust weathering and damage into the mix and you have a whole new area to consider. Finally (just to mess with your head) due to metals reflective qualites think about light direction and how curved surfaces create their shadows.

Going back to Gold and your comment about how toning might not be the same, Gold reflects colour just the same as any metal, the only difference is that it\'s natural colour alters the reflected colour.

And I think that the article you are refering to is
This One by Automaton
 

Monkeysplitters

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yes that is the exact article. and a good one too. now its bookmarked

And ive gotten so much info from this thread i dont think ill ever get the chance to try it all, atleast not for a while.
 

redarmy27

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Sheesh, great info there DR. I wish I would have known all of this before I had painted the general. Well, I have three more models to try it on, so I\'ll have a go at it. Thanks for the advice and article!

Jake
 

redarmy27

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Originally posted by Dragonsreach
Originally posted by redarmy27
Sheesh, great info there DR.
Ta, just wish I could put into practise myself. lol

Kind of one of those, do as we say not as we do things huh? :D

I\'ll give those new techniques a wirl this weekend. While I am working on a Nurgle knight right now, I think a Tzeentch knight will look pretty aweseome with that tutorial you linked.

I\'ll just have to work on getting the paint the perfect consistency and then applying it correctly. I always thought those kind of results were achieved using mainly inks, but I guess using very diluted, thin coats of paint will really give it the effect the metal needs. Great find once again!

Jake
 

Dragonsreach

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Originally posted by redarmy27
Originally posted by Dragonsreach
Originally posted by redarmy27
Sheesh, great info there DR.
Ta, just wish I could put into practise myself. lol

Kind of one of those, do as we say not as we do things huh? :D
NOt really, I try but can\'t seem to pull it off the way I want to. Keep on practising, methinks. lol
 
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