Ahh yes, Al gore

PegaZus

Stealth Freak
Originally posted by evil tendencies
I grew up in the Boy Scouts, and in a troop that was known for it\'s backpacking, so conservation and the environment were just a natural part of my life growing up. I still haven\'t been able to connect my \"no trace\" training with Gore\'s \"pay someone else to not pollute\" approach.

I had a coworker who had the oddest habit that he acquired from scouting. When hiking, they\'d brought a big bag of salted peanuts to eat. Only problem, they didn\'t bring a bag for the shells. So, they ate the peanut whole; shell and all.

And now? Peanuts don\'t \"taste\" right unless he eats the shell too. Cheers! :beer:
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
Steelcult; absolutley true.

But we as model makers/painters are not much better in our environmental care.
How much waste packaging and boxes are we responible for allowing to continue being made from manufacturers.
Or for that matter from any product manufacturer?

Using GW as an example look at all the boxes on the shelves, how much waste do they create? And has anyone attempted to attract our attention (and GW\'s) to their production, I doubt it.
Plus I doubt that Plastic (or pewter for that matter) is all that beneficial to the environment.
Add to that the amount of products in our leisure activity that are now being made in China, who\'s environmental impact is huge and we are no better than anyone else.

If GW were to start a Recycle Plastic, Pewter and Packaging waste system within in their stores would people begin to take more note?
 

Sand Rat

New member
What you bring up is true DR. However my point is not that we should or should not change our lifestyle to save the planet for future generations. My point is if you\'re going to put yourself in a position where you are telling people how to live, you need to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

As for recycling the left overs from the hobby - not sure about GB but we have options in place to recycle everything except the pewter bits - its just a case of using whats in place.
 

jahminis

New member
@matty: i\'m as close to ital as is possible here in the states...organic, and preservative free, is a bit pricey here in the states...when i\'m in central america, and other third world countries, the diet is definitely all natural...homecooked beans and rice, mangos, pineapple, fresh bread and tortillas, fresh salsa, loads of garlic, avocado, and local coffee...

ital is vital!!!

cheers
jah
 

mattsterbenz

New member
Thought I would bump this with a video I was linked today in an email.

It tells of a Polish woman\'s incredible story. Wait till the very end for the \"surprise\". :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVw1PANUcdg

-Matt
 

No Such Agency

New member
Originally posted by mattsterbenz
Thought I would bump this with a video I was linked today in an email.
Honestly, I don\'t think there\'s a worse place on the internet than the comments section of YouTube. They even make Something Awful or 4Chan look like the f*cking Algonquin Round Table in comparison.
 

airhead

Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
Al Gore:

He did not invent the internet,
but he did invent global warming.

And DR, we have cleaned up our act a bunch. Remember when we used oil based enamels? Cans of thinner everywhere? DioSol?
Brush lickers back then were tough.
 

Avelorn

Sven Jonsson
Originally posted by mattsterbenz
Thought I would bump this with a video I was linked today in an email.

It tells of a Polish woman\'s incredible story. Wait till the very end for the \"surprise\". :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVw1PANUcdg

-Matt

What has that got to do with anything? Do you think she would have wanted to be used as a bat in this debate? Take a look at some of the previous winners as well... IPCC and Al Gore were not a bad choice.

That is just setting a new low in the debate.
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
Originally posted by airhead

Brush lickers back then were tough.
Yep Made the mistake last weekend of Brushlicking after working with Water Soluble Oils. :|~

And I totally agree about, talking the talk, walking the walk.
 

wiccanpony

Official Freak Bar Witch
Originally posted by Dragonsreach
Originally posted by airhead

Brush lickers back then were tough.
Yep Made the mistake last weekend of Brushlicking after working with Water Soluble Oils. :|~

And I totally agree about, talking the talk, walking the walk.

:eek: they make water soluble oils!!!!!!!! when did this happen and why am I the last to know:cussing:
 

mattsterbenz

New member
They do indeed.

I have tried them out and I really dislike them. (But I do canvas painting with oils rather than miniatures, so it\'s a bit of a different ball park).

-Matt
 

Thunderhawker

New member
IMHO, anyone who thinks human beings pose a genuine threat to this planet and its inner workings is either deeply deluded or gullible beyond repair.:mad:
 

Avelorn

Sven Jonsson
Originally posted by Thunderhawker
IMHO, anyone who thinks human beings pose a genuine threat to this planet and its inner workings is either deeply deluded or gullible beyond repair.:mad:

Threat to this planet? no... threat to ourselves and the animal life on it: Without doubt. We won\'t be extinct and there will be animals and plants, but not just as it is now. ..

Very humble opinion as well... lol
 

Legacy Account

Active member
Originally posted by Thunderhawker
IMHO, anyone who thinks human beings pose a genuine threat to this planet and its inner workings is either deeply deluded or gullible beyond repair.:mad:

Depends on your point of view. Try looking at it from the perspective of a white rhino or an orangutan or the many bird species that have been permanently eradicated down here through humans stupidly introducing other creatures to the ecosystem.

Pretty difficult to believe we\'re the most intelligent life on the planet sometimes...
 

Evil Dave

New member
Originally posted by Spacemunkie
Originally posted by Thunderhawker
IMHO, anyone who thinks human beings pose a genuine threat to this planet and its inner workings is either deeply deluded or gullible beyond repair.:mad:

Depends on your point of view. Try looking at it from the perspective of a white rhino or an orangutan or the many bird species that have been permanently eradicated down here through humans stupidly introducing other creatures to the ecosystem.

Pretty difficult to believe we\'re the most intelligent life on the planet sometimes...
But then again, millions of species have become extinct before man was even around...

This cracks me up.
On Thursday, former U.S. vice-president Al Gore delivered a major address calling on his country to abandon all fossil fuels within 10 years. By 2018, U.S. electricity and fuel should come entirely from “renewable energy and truly clean, carbon-free sources,” he said. Tickets to the event encouraged attendees to “please use public transit, bicycling or other climate-friendly means” to reach the lecture hall.

So how did Mr. Gore and his retinue arrive? In two Lincoln Town Cars and a full-sized SUV that sat idling with the air conditioners blasting while the Gore party was inside.
 

Legacy Account

Active member
Originally posted by Evil Dave

But then again, millions of species have become extinct before man was even around...

And that statement proves what exactly? It stinks of the same attitude as people dropping litter in the street and excusing it because the place is already a mess.
 

Evil Dave

New member
Originally posted by Spacemunkie
Originally posted by Evil Dave

But then again, millions of species have become extinct before man was even around...

And that statement proves what exactly? It stinks of the same attitude as people dropping litter in the street and excusing it because the place is already a mess.
Simply that correlation does not mean causation. Sure, man has helped some species to go extinct, but can you honestly say with 100% surety that these species would not have gone extinct without man\'s help? Over 90% of the species that have been on this planet have gone extinct to be replaced by a better survivor. Eventually, we will join them. It\'s the way it is, the way it always has been, the way it always will be.
 
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