Another WIP from anotherpainter

anotherpainter

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Updated the body part


@Lone Lemming
Oh yeah, i know the Hush, awesome piece!
I was searching for femal bust and was so happy to find her. Then i realised the size of it and that its not sold anymore :(

I finished the decals. Sadly its hard to make a good photo of such tiny parts.
 
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anotherpainter

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@Iateyourbananas
Thanks mate.


Shot update:
I had really big trouble with the face.
I tried it several times but never liked it and realised the "intuitive spontan" painting i did,
is the problem.
Even when i got a part good and another bad i was not able to reproduce the good part.

So i took a break over the holidays and now do it in more distinguished steps.
 

Heldiar

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I'm really impressed that you painting for such short time with so nice effect. Don't worry about any problems with some painting, if that make you feel better I just striped mini for the fifth time because i didn't like part of it (it was finished in 80 %). Everything will come in time. I'm waiting for new photos of that bust. Coat looks great so will rest of him.
 

anotherpainter

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Part 5: The Head

Not learning by doing
I started and striped the head dozen times (no primer after try 3).
I got kind of randomly better on some tries but the last 5 got worse and worse. The last try looked like a 5 year old throw the peace in some paint pots.
It did crossed my mind to just stick a bubblegum on the figure and call it an head.

After a 2 week break i realised the problem was the unmethodical approach.
If im able to paint something nice but cant reproduce it, its worthless. I have to structure everything in clear steps and only think and focus on the step ahead.

So no more tries. I primed the head and went for the final approach:


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The Start: Primed B&W and base-coated

Eyes
Like i wrote on the pre-thougt post, i want to create the 2000 yard stare.
That means a big round iris in the middle of the eye, slightly upwards. I learned in a video once to first paint a red layer and then a white over it and leave the borders left standing. Thats how i did the red in the eye in the past, but this time i painted the off-white first and wet painted the red on it to have a more smother transition. As iris i used first a middle - then a light brown. The times where i can actually paint iris pattern are not there yet ;)

The pupil is real black and the light reflection is real white (this is the only part of a figure where i break with the "No real B&W" rule).

Obvious the task of creating the 2000 yard stare on a miniature is very hard. Im not good enough to really create it. However the figure looks kind of into nothing, when you see it in real-life, so im reasonable pleased with it.


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Steps of the eye.


Skin 1: Colors
I used the following colors for skin
Basecoad: Midland flesh (middle skin tone)
Dark1: Midland Flesh 2 : Blood tracker brown 1
Dark2: Khardic Flesh 2 : Blood tracker brown 1
light1: Midland Flesh 1 : Ryn Flesh 1
light2: Ryn Flesh


Skin 1: Area coloring
Many people do the complete Skin with glazes.
I tried to do that but found it very difficult to remember for each little area where i want what color (light level). So first i paint all areas with the final color.

To make the fading easier later, i wet blend the borders of the colors. First i mixed dry retarder in every color. I start with a new base-coat. Then i paint the shadow1 areas (everything that is in the shadow) and wet-blend it into the base-coat. Next i wet-blend the deep shadows with shadow2 into shadow1 ... and so on.

The problem here is that you cant wet-blend everything or you would end up with to many layers.
So i used it only for the big dark areas and painted the lights dry.

I mixed dark blue into shadow1 for the dark spots under the eye.



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Finished Area coloring

Skin 2: Glazing

I mixed glazes out of all 5 ground colors and then used them to make the transition of the Areas smother. Sound easy enough but i spend more time here then on all other steps together.


Wash and Highlights
First i painted all folds with darks. What dark i used depended on the surrounding area.

In the past i used p3 Flesh wash with very little success. It took me a lot of time to find out, that you don't actually want to "wash" all the work you did with the glazes.
So i took the flesh wash and diluted it 5:1. I basically glazed the skin red.

After that i positioned my lamp exactly where my light-spot is and highlighted where the light bounces off the skin.


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Finished glaze and highlight


Lips + Eyebrows + Beard + Color
Lips:
Khardic Flesh base, then different highlight lines and glazed in with khardic flesh again.
Eyebrows:
Just many very tiny lines that move away from the eye.
Beard:
I thought very long over the beard. First i did not want to paint it at all. Then i decided to give him a very thin one. However while painting it keeps growing...

I used one layer of brown thin lines and then washed the bread and the surrounding brown. For lightning i repeated the -line and wash- step with different browns.

Last step for the skin are the color glazes. Top yellow, cheeks red and bottom blue like BloodASmedium suggested.
On the middle picture it looks like i overdid the yellow, but it highly depends on the angle and light.


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Finished beard


The Hair
My first brown hair so i had to figure out a color range.
First i used a brown glaze for the hairline (I actually did this step together with the beard).
And then i had a relapse.
wet-blend, highlight, wash, different highlight, wet-glaze, shadow-wash, highlight ...
short: blendgazewashighlightpaint
No clue what or how i painted it... looks like he was dark blond all along...


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Hair



Result:

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I learned a lot on this head and i have a strong love/hate relationship with it ...
I feel like buying a bust without a peace of skin for my next project ;)

Left to do: Mounting, Final touch up and photographing.
Sadly my wood base guy don't have the base i want in stock right now, so it can take a while.

What do you think about the head? Anything you don't like or ideas for improvment?
No wrong restraint. I can take it.
 
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silasvb

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The level of detail you provide here is invaluable to someone new to all this. Particularly explaining why you choose to take steps, and not just what you have done. The results look amazing as well.

I look forward to your next update
 

anotherpainter

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Thanks a lot!

@Heldiar

I did know i only try, so the striping wasn't that hard. In fact some of the tries looked so bad, i was glad to rip the color off ;)
The repeating and failing part was tiering tho...


@silasvb

I post it mostly so others learn form my mistake and so that you guys can point out obvious mistakes when you spot them.
Because im relative new to this, im often afraid i do some basic stuff completly wrong and are not aware of it.

There is so much no one talks about in tutorials. Little stuff that everyone here knows but that i had to figure out by myself by try and error:
E.g.:
Its not a good idea to put your glaze on your wetpalet
only because its called a wash does not mean you actuall aply it like you would wash something...
What is on the back of the brush affects the consistency of the paint in the front of it (e.g. dry your brush before you use it for highlight, makes way clearer lines)
If you suddenly cant make any clear lines anymore and question everything.... perhaps your brush is just done...
 
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Maenas

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It's impressive that a "new painter" could obtain this result, I am saying again that with your super meticulous approach you will be improving tones with each project.
I particularly like the tone that the nose has on the last picture, it looks very natural.

Maybe you are interested in this approach, I commented it a bit of it on my wip thread:
The method consists in blocking colours and then blending each area with the surrounding ones, after that glazes of colours are applied over them. It's called "the korean method" so I think you can search over the internets for it...

Also, don't pressure up yourself too much or the fun will be over! It happened to me! :brushwave::good:
 

Heldiar

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Looking good. I like how you made his skin tones, very nice highlighted. Nice of you that you not only showing youur work but writing explaining every step. People definetly gonna learn on your mistakes( definetly me).
 

anotherpainter

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First Thank you all :)
If you guys see mistakes or stuff that can be better don't hold back.
I am able to separate personal critic from critic of my work and don't be offended by it.

@Maenas From your description, thats exactly my thought process.
I see on day1 you painted the head of the life-miniature-guide that Bailey03 linked me in my other thread. Same idea here.
However you had more guts then me at the start. I get highly unconformable if i paint something so far from the end result on the mini even if i know it will be glazed away. I was thinking about painting something comic style in future where i make really strong color borders to battle this feeling.

The pressure part hits home. To be honest this bust did teach me a lot but it was not a lot of fun. I kind of shoot over the goal with it...
I already decided to do something not challenging without any guides or thought about improvement as next project. Im thinking about painting an resin background diorama or something like that.

Btw: i searched your WIP and could not find how you painted the Jaime Lannister that you bought at the event.


My next update was planned to be a boring: i fixed, mounted and photographed it.
However my wood base guy does not replay to my emails so i think my next update will be:
DIY High quality wood bases
 

Maenas

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.../
Btw: i searched your WIP and could not find how you painted the Jaime Lannister that you bought at the event./...
That's because it is on my grey pile, of pending jobs, and it is a bit intimidating too hahahaha I really need to paint more or the grey pile will take life and start to move around.... oO'
And also that DIY wood bases interests me a lot ^^ so looking forward for it.
 

anotherpainter

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Update war photograph:
I did the last touched ups on the war photograph.
But whole wood plinth project will take some time so i will start a new miniature meanwhile and post the final pictures of him after i finished his plinth.


@maenas good that you wrote that. I was on my way to order 3 new figures because i did not feel like painting one of the 3 i own. But i think i should paint at least on of them before i buy new ones. oh and you should also start your lannister :) its a great bust!



I figured out, with the really weak british pound, its cheapest at the moment to order stuff from Britain (at least until/if they really leave ...).
The 3 beauties im thinking about:


PS:
Thx for the rep @Zab and uknown. strangly it does not say the uername on the 2nd one.
 
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anotherpainter

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Plinth Disaster Part I

Story time:
I wanted to order some plinths from a German plinth suppler. However he did not had the once i wanted in store and did not replay to my emails. So i decided to build my own and the madness begun:

I searched and found a wood supplier. All kind of amazing woods for realy low price.
After 3 day my wood arrived. 45 € inklusiv transport and tax gets you this:

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I cleaned the wood (it was sealed with wax / a big mess) and next day went out to get it cut.
First two tool shops refused to cut it because of safety reasons. They have no real saws so they have to hold it per hand and are not allowed to cut under 10 cm...
So i drove to a real woodworking shop. This one was already closed.
Angry that its such a problem to get a piece of wood cut i order a table-saw from amazon for 140€:
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Two days later my table-saw arrived and i assembled it in my basement. After testing it first time the breaker cut the power. This way i found out that the fuse for the basement is also the fuse for the stairway for the whole apartment complex.
Running around with a flashlight i searched 20min for the correct fusebox (while using the flashlight to helping my neighbours to their apartment).

I find out it has a to small fuse in it (10A).
In theories the 2000W table-saw could run from a 10A fuse ( 10A*230V = 2300W) but table saws need 2-5 times the power when turned on. This 40 year old fusebox are sadly very easy to trigger and even if get it running i only have 300W extra to run the whole light in basement and stairway.

Meanwhile i get a mail from my plinth supplier. He was in holiday and is back and he has all the plinth that i wanted in stock and can send them out right away...
But we past the point of economic calculation and reason already...

So i search for soft-starters and power regulator for table saw the next 2 hours and come to the conclusion the only real option is to up the fuse. But im not allowed to do this myself by law.

So i disassembled the table saw, carry it into my apartment and assemble it again.
My lights flicker but the fuse in my apartment holds (16A).

I cut the wood (i bet my neighbours don't love me anymore ^^) and find out its not very straight.
Looks like the Plastik sliders on this cheap table saws are not very precise.

Lucky the are a DIY solution on youtube.


TO BE CONTINUED....
 
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Foxtail

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Incredible commitment!

I'm coming to you if I ever need a plinth. You seem to be setting up to go into business.
 

anotherpainter

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@ BloodASmedium & @ Foxtail

Thanks. But is not business or boldness its pure insanity at this point ;)
Im sending a lot of money and a ton of time just to create 5cm big square peace of wood. Let that sink in...

i just build a slider for my wood-saw that is completely out of balance and have to rebuild it again. There is no real point of doing it, knowing i can order a really nice wood-base for 8 bucks. But then where is the point of painting miniature plastic pieces?

BTW: for people reading and thinking to do the same: keep in mind a table saw is no toy and very very dangerous.
You have to have ton of respect and pre-think and plan every wood- and hand movement before you turn it on.
 

bgcdazzler

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Gosh. You're straying into Fawlty Towers territory with this little adventure. I applaud your commitment though, and it's certainly entertaining!
 

KruleBear

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You're as nuts as I am. I have used that type of logic to by all kinds of tools I have only used once or twice since I got them.
 

Maenas

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Such an adventure... hoping it finally ends with at least one nice plinth ^^'
Note to self: do not try this... although I already have some tools... mmmm... temptation impersonated. Noooo waay!
 
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