army commissioning

[diddy lemon1]

Me and a few friends were thinking of doin a wh40k army commision thingey i was wondering if anyone here had experence in commisions or could warn me if i was doin soming stupid???

 

[diddy lemon1]

bump

 

[mickc22]

just make sure it doesn\'t end up costing you money to do them

 

[Sonnyslayer]

im getting a Tau army soon.. my 2nd army commission.. i think its fun t make some money but id tather paint single minis to a higher standard.. Please dont bump so early.. wait for a couple of day before bumping, people can still see the topic.
oh yeah post some pics of the army here when your done

 

[krom1415]

make sure you get a good price, and enjoy it,

 

[Torn blue sky]

Are we still talking about painting here???

 

[Dragonsreach]

Originally posted by diddy lemon1
Me and a few friends were thinking of doin a wh40k army commision thingey i was wondering if anyone here had experence in commisions or could warn me if i was doin soming stupid???

Firstly do you have a customer already?
Or are you doing this as a speculation?

Secondly have you worked out a price per hour and what level the painters can or are expected work to?

Thirdly can the painters involved handle the workload without \"Burn out\" or becoming distracted by the latest \"Bright New Shiney toy\"?

Forthly have you formally agreed how the work is to be split up and what the remuneration will be for the painters involved? (ie does Joe get 40% because he painted 6 squads, or does Terry get more because he painted the HQ)

Lastly have you established a formal timescale for the completion of this commission, and allowed time for correction if the customer decides they are unhappy with aspects of the work?

These are all questions you need to address, because they are all issues that I have come across, either in co-ordinating painting projects or in managing other \'Real World\' projects.

 

[wiccanpony]

What DR said....and.....get every thing in writing!! before hand.

 

[diddy lemon1]

Q. Firstly do you have a customer already?
Or are you doing this as a speculation?

A. its a speculation



Q. have you worked out a price per hour and what level the painters can or are expected work to?

A. we\'re only intending to do up to a certain amount of models at a time and we were goin to charge on what we were being required to paint not how long it takes cause we tend not to paint in hours we pait for random lenghts of time , from 10 mins to all day it all depends.



Q. have you formally agreed how the work is to be split up and what the remuneration will be for the painters involved? (ie does Joe get 40% because he painted 6 squads, or does Terry get more because he painted the HQ)

A. in the way of pay it has all been decided.



Q. have you established a formal timescale for the completion of this commission, and allowed time for correction if the customer decides they are unhappy with aspects of the work?

A. We will try and complete within the requested time lenght by only doin 1 army at a time, if the amount of models compared to the given time is rediculas e.g. do 3000 models in a week we will obviously decline. Rather thensend the models and have them sent back if the customer didn\'t llike a few things we were goin to take pictures and email them to the customer to make sure we didnt send off somthing that they hated , and if we arn\'t sure onthe paint scheme we will paint up a sample and send them it to see if it what they wanted and so they could pick out any problems



Q. can the painters involved handle the workload without \"Burn out\" or becoming distracted by the latest \"Bright New Shiney toy\"?

A. if they want the new shiney toy they can buy and piant it in their own time and i dont know what the \"burn out\" is so

 

[diddy lemon1]

it looked like alot more when i wastyping it lol

 

[darkartminiatures]

I would recommend that when giving a army/force quote for the first time to you only take on a single squad. This way you figure out if your next qoutes for the army might need changing higher OR lower. Giving a quote for a full force when you have never painted them in that amount before is a gamble for you and your customer and you should only do this when you gain enough experience in estimating how long something will take.

On acceptence of the quote your customer you should be asked for a sort of \'kill fee\' Basicly up to %50 of the total amount and the rest once completed.

Hope this helps

My two pennys.

 

[hakoMike]

If it\'s on speculation then just paint it, consider the time painting as valuable experience and anything it sells for over retail is bonus.

Small pieces for sale are big fun. I\'ve had a great time auctioning single models. Large number of models on commission can suck the life out of you. Just don\'t lose focus... finish it, sell it, then decide if you want to do it again.

 

[airhead]

I thought someone was being made an officer in the army.
(just call me Airheaded).
*shrug*

 

[diddy lemon1]

is their a free way of getting myself out there, so people knoe i exsist

 

[demonherald]

set up an ebay account..........big warning.. Al though the idea of commission painting sounds like fun just remember when starting out you will be attracted to allsorts of jobs just because there is money involved but you can soon end up in hot water.. let\'s say for instance someone asks you to paint a large army.. You get excited say yes and take the money then realise none of you like painting that army..

job gets compromised eventually finished but more importantly customer pissed off. The most important thing is your customer..

You may be better just sticking to painting things you like and selling on ebay.. That way you know who has done the work and have no problem dividing the cash.. More importantly you keep in touch with your hobby painting the things you want to paint...

 

[Swordwind]

Well the traditional method is to get up on a stage or similar and give a stiring speech like \"Men of England, I call you to arms!\" while waving a sword heroically in the air...