As requested... Artist backgroung vs. naturals (poll version)

[electrolito 77]

Artist background vs naturals...

On this one, how big do you think the advantage is from someone with an artist background over one with none, just natural skill?

I think it is pretty obvious, but someone has to disagree at some point. Someone with an artistic background has in my opinion a huge advantage over someone with none. For example, I have had 0 experience with art on a classroom environment, still I kinda have a clue of how shadowing, highlighting, cutting, sculpting should go. Still my methods are not the greatest nor are they the most efective if I may say. The point being, if I had some proffesional aid to help me understand how it all works starting with the basics, my skills would have that much more of a difference when it comes to quality, cleanliness and effectiveness. I do not know for sure, but I am willing to bet that the top artists in this site, most have had some type artistic education or college degree in art that put them that far above the rest of us wannabe`s. What do you think?

 

[Ritual]

I think natural talent gives you the best advantage! The knowledge you have from an artistic background is not necessarily applicable on miniature painting other than some general theory (like colour theory or possibly anatomy if you\'ve been into sculpting). Having a natural talent for handling a brush and an eye for colour will enable you to learn mini painting a lot faster than without, I think.

But, of course, I think you can reach the same level without natural talent. It just takes longer... Having an eye for colours, though, is probably harder to learn.

 

[Legacy Account]

Judging by some of the no-hope, talentless prats I had the displeasure to attend college with, the answer is NO!

Natural talent wins every time. Art-educated natural talent can just talk bollocks about what they do

 

[frenchkid]

No possibility for A and B ?
For me both seem to be quit an advantage. I\'ll just go with natural talent for now as that seem to be the best advantage when you start off ( looks enviously at Nicolas hanset, romain, and other young amazing painters ).
But art sure seems to help too.

 

[Ogrebane]

I still think training gives you and advantage. I mean people like me with no training have to guess where things like shadows etc go. Talent goes along way but will hit its peak with out some sort of training. Of course there is alwauys the exception to the rule but they are very and far between.

 

[electrolito 77]

Originally posted by frenchkid
No possibility for A and B ?
For me both seem to be quit an advantage. I\'ll just go with natural talent for now as that seem to be the best advantage when you start off ( looks enviously at Nicolas hanset, romain, and other young amazing painters ).
But art sure seems to help too.

Sure, i can arrange that. maybe it will even the votes out...

 

[electrolito 77]

Actually I do not know how to edit a poll... maybe I should\'ve thought about that before. Anyone have a clue?

 

[Ghaffasa]

I think artist background is an advantage when you\'re painting freehand.. Also, as ogrebane said, people without any artistic background whatsoever might find it harder deciding where to paint i.e reflections on nmm, source lightning and shadows.

 

[krom1415]

I think I would say natural, as it does not have any preconcieved ideas of how things must be done.
For me Art comes from our pure connection with the natural way of things, not from a humans idea of what is or should be

 

[Torn blue sky]

Yah that\'s what I reckon. Blood and tears all the way!
...A PHD wouldn\'t hurt though

 

[generulpoleaxe]

it\'s like musical instruments.

hard work pays dividends, everything else only helps you at the start.

 

[Rodnik]

I\'m all about practice and lots of it. No art training or natural talent here.

Sure, at the start of an endeavor, natural talent will help speed things along, but it\'ll only get you so far.

Intelligently-focused tenacity will get a person farther than any other attribute he/she could ever possess.

 

[demonherald]

I\'ve gone for c because it\'s sort of the nearest to what I\'m thinking...
It is known that art in itself is classed among natural abilities as a starting block.

The ones who as little babies draw the right number of fingers etc. It is later on in life that this can be developed with training etc.

applied to minis then it is generally an advantageto have natural talent purely because it can save a lot of time getting started.
When it comes to advancing an educated art background can help greatly with things like colour theory colour behaviour light points etc however most of the theories of artistry are beaten to oblivion when your painting omething 28mm high. The mind track that what you have been taught is right can be one of the biggest barriers to creating soething awesome.

so Both have there advantages and disadvantages.....

hope that all made sense it is late....