Bailey03's WIP

Zab

Zab

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I love Michael's stuff.The low CAD is killing me these days. So many nice kits come out of FW and the EU, but not worth the exchange rate to me. As for your blown up photo, that is crazy. You have some seriously smooth blends there and no sloppiness on the freehand either. What the hell man?! Blow my stuff up and it looks like I am finger painting o_O
 
Canny

Canny

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I will join you with the finger painting, Im a little sad I cant get super thin lines some times its all in the flow and tip. Family live in Salem Bailey :)
Amazing different takes spring and winter! Beautiful. gota love the family we went 5 hours drive up to taupo with a 18month and 3 year old that was a memorable trip if ever there was.
 
Boguz

Boguz

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Hi Bailey, fantastic WIP -- I just finished reading through the whole thing! A question if you don't mind... A number of posts back you did a little SBS on the Northumbrian's helmet. When you do the final lining with Scale 75 inks on something like that -- do you dilute the inks at all or are they pretty much straight out of the bottle and onto your wet palette?
 
Dragonsreach

Dragonsreach

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Canny said:
I will join you with the finger painting, Im a little sad I cant get super thin lines some times its all in the flow and tip.
Issabey 62275's might help, really fine and long brushes. (Might have spelled that name incorrectly)

Family live in Salem.
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SALEM's LOT?
 
Bailey03

Bailey03

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Thanks, Zab, Canny, and Boguz!

Boguz, I'm glad you enjoyed the thread. Well done making it to the end! For the inks, I'm using a cup or well palette (about $1 at your local art store) and then watering down the ink. It's at least 1 part water to 1 part ink. Probably closer to 2 parts water to ink or more. I want the effect to be subtle, so I test it out on my hand and keep adding water as needed. Because it's thinned down that much it would just flow all over the wet palette and so cups make more sense. I will create glazes on the wet palette using matte medium and paint, it's transparent but doesn't flow all over. Never tried that with inks though.
 
Bailey03

Bailey03

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I had a decent hobby weekend. On Friday I did some painting with Mike Schaefer (via Google chat) and got to hear his recap of NOVA Open. Then on Saturday we had the SCAHMS meeting where I did a presentation on doing groundwork for figures. At the meeting I also had a chance to chat with one of the guys organizing the seminars for Adepticon. Sounds like they have a lot of good stuff lined up, so keep an eye out for future announcements!

Here's a look at the current status on the Northumbrian. I was making some progress on the shield... and then started to second guess my plans. I did the alternating blue background and my original idea was to put a white semi circular pattern on top. The design would end in two serpent or dragon heads (based on the designs from the helmet's metalwork). However, now I'm starting to worry it will be too much and make the shield too busy. I've got mixed feelings... right now I think still needs something, but I don't want to over do it either. Any thoughts or suggestions?

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Darthmarsh

Darthmarsh

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He's looking fantastic dude. I did a quick Google search on ancient Northumbria and this popped up. I've only had 3 hours sleep and It's far to early for me to read the text to see if it's from the right time period (or even region) but it looks like that would look pretty darn cool around your shield View attachment 41769
 
Maenas

Maenas

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mmmm me too thinks it needs something more but a super detailed motif will draw too much attention as you said.

Sharing the feeling that the waves do not match here, though they are cool... I like the idea of the ring, being more simple than a celtic dragon design all over the shield, could be a nice ^^

Trying to give you another idea... what if you put a simplified design similar or equal to the one of the kilt on just four of the deep blue stripes? I mean just one "module" of the design not a lot of them interlaced.
 
Bailey03

Bailey03

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Thanks, everyone. Zab, it's a nice design but it feels more Greek/Roman to me. I'm sure that was an influence and could work, but I was thinking something with a bit more Celtic feel. Darthmarsh, that's a nice pattern though that'st the sort of thing I worry would be too busy on top of the alternating blue background.

My thought the other day was something like this (real rough sketch). A semi circular line with some minor detail inside and ending in two dragon/serpent heads. Basically following the design on the far right in the second image (without the heads crossing). I'm starting to warm up to that idea again... although Maenas, your suggestion sounds like doing a cross pattern, basically four arms going out from the center? That would be another option. I'm going to post the same question over to the historical forums and see what sort of reaction I get from there. I've got some other sections I can paint in the meantime, so I've got a few more days before I really need to make a final decision. Thanks for the input and ideas!
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KruleBear

KruleBear

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I think if you keep the pattern to just the inner blue circle, it wouldn't look too busy.

btw, I assume the horn isn't complete as it doesn't look to be your normal quality.
 
Darthmarsh

Darthmarsh

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I don't think it would look too busy if, like Kbear said, you kept it to the inner circle. Also you could further lessen the impact by weathering the hell out of it. I was reading a tutorial from a military scale modeller the other day and he used transfers for garage lettering. Sanded them down after application and then overpainted. The final effect was amazing. A perfect balance of old, realistic print on a weathered wooden surface. I know the application here is slightly different but with your skills I'm positive you could pull it off.
 
Bailey03

Bailey03

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Hmmm... seems like the opinions keep going back and forth. Maenas, I like that idea. Although maybe I'd do that on all of the dark blue sections just to keep it consistent. Right now I'm leaning towards that. I figure if the designs go radially outward (like you're suggesting), then they're working with the existing shield design (those alternating sections). If I did my original idea of something circular over top, that would be working against the existing design and make it look too busy.

Krule, so far I'd focused on the color transition for the horn. I still haven't done any highlighting in the dark section at the tip. The rope still needs more work, I plan to do more of a gradient going from the bottom to the top.

Darthmarsh, yeah, I've seen some nice work done with weathering over decals. I don't like relying on them for figures, but what others (especially among the vehicle modelers) are able to do is very impressive.
 
A

aniku

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Hi,

You probably can find may desings on internet but I think taht the one posted by Maena (the one on the right) is perfect for your shield.

Many thanks,
Mariano.
 
ArchArad

ArchArad

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Maenas's idea gets my vote too - it ties in with the rest of the figure and with the existing patterning on the shield.
 
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