Baneblade Imposter?

[shinjikun1]

I recently noticed a Armorcast Baneblade in the gallery described as a Forgeworld model. http://www.coolminiornot.com/91438
Can anyone who is familiar with both these models take a look. What bothers me about this is that its on Ebay claiming to be FW as well.

 

[tidoco2222]

I am not certain but I would say this is not a Forgeworld model as it is quite different in some areas than their Baneblades.
To say it is an early one I also think not as the Forgeworld baneblades have not altered in design since they were first released, there are different configurations of turrets weapons etc all on the same chassis but the actual design is basically the same.
I amy be wrong but I do not think so.

 

[Drake Farstrider]

Well Tagron responded to your comments with this:

tagron
10 June 05 Rating: -
see for yourself http://img53.echo.cx/img53/2948/15656424vb.jpg
tagron
10 June 05 Rating: -
nooo its forgeworld, this is what is stamped on the bottom FORGE WORLD MODEL COPYRIGHT (C) 1995 GAMESWORKSHOP LTD ANd yeah i didnt know if that was supposed to be there, i have the piece i guess ill glue it on.

I guess it could after all be a Forgeworld model.

 

[tidoco2222]

Tagron is a decent bloke I recently did a trade with him and I found him to be very amiable.

Here is a Forgeworld baneblade now decide for yourselves.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/baneblade.htm

 

[shinjikun1]

Tony Cottrell started making \"Imperial Armour\" models in 1999. This later became known as Forge World. That pics shows a 1995 copyright. Here are two examples of the Armorcast model.
http://www.coolminiornot.com/25400

http://www.coolminiornot.com/448

 

[shinjikun1]

Originally posted by tidoco2222
Tagron is a decent bloke I recently did a trade with him and I found him to be very amiable.

Im not questioning his integrity. Maybe someone sold him a fake.

 

[Drake Farstrider]

Hmm while there are ome similarities they do look like different models. His does look like the the armorcast ones, but then at the same time it looks like the Forgeworld one as well. Maybe it is a fake or garage kit.

 

[shinjikun1]

Well Tagrons tank is definatly converted. I\'m curious how he aquired the model. I hope he didnt get ripped off.

 

[shinjikun1]

Heres the original tank unpainted, without convertions. I have two of the Armourcast models.

 

[tidoco2222]

I think your unpainted version realy answers the question it is an Armourcast one. For one thing the angles on the Arnourcast are more rounded and not as sharp as the Forgeworld one. Mind you both kits are very nice I have a stormblade and it is a superb model.

 

[Dammekkos2]

It is patently obvious that it is the same as the armorcast version. I think the real question is did the armorcast version ever get sold under the forgeworld liscence? (I sais as much on the comment I made).

 

[Sturmhalo]

Anyone heard of the phrase \"splitting hairs\"?

 

[shinjikun1]

This thread is not that frivolus (compared to many others in this forum). Re-cast and the Collectors Market is an important subject IMHO.

 

[No Such Agency]

Originally posted by Sturmhalo
Anyone heard of the phrase \"splitting hairs\"?

No freakin\' kidding

EDIT: I guess the next question is: shinjikun1 - does your Armorcast Baneblade have that same copyright notice on the bottom?

 

[shinjikun1]

Originally posted by No Such Agency
EDIT: I guess the next question is: shinjikun1 - does your Armorcast Baneblade have that same copyright notice on the bottom?

My baneblade has \"ARMORCAST Copyright 1990 Games Workshop Ltd.\" on the inside of the bottom and top hull pieces.

 

[Dammekkos2]

Originally posted by Sturmhalo
Anyone heard of the phrase \"splitting hairs\"?

Ever heard the phrase \"The forgeworld baneblade kicks ass on the armorcast baneblade\"?

To expand on that point, the FW version is far more highly detailed, with more realistic weapons, armour, and tracks, and has extra features such as the drums on the back. And is also more expensive, despite being in production! The FW baneblade PWNS the armorcast version imo.

 

[Drake Farstrider]

Originally posted by Dammekkos2

Originally posted by Sturmhalo
Anyone heard of the phrase \"splitting hairs\"?

Ever heard the phrase \"The forgeworld baneblade kicks ass on the armorcast baneblade\"?

Nope never have. lollollol

 

[MarkusTay]

Send me one of each. I\'ll smash them with a hammer and let you know which is better.

lol

 

[shinjikun1]

Thank You to Kman for solving that mystery. (I was about to let out a Charlie Brown AAARRRGGG!) I had suspected that it was possible the anouther company had once used the name Forgeworld, and was hoping that someone would reveal this info. I thought it pretty intense for someone to go to all the trouble of casting up that copyright stamp. Also apologies to Tagron, but now you know a more detailed history of your model and the fact that it is Super rare.

 

[finn17]

I thought that might be the case...

I have a \'Forge World\' Bauhaus Grizzly that comes from about the same era... and I am sure I remember seeing Banebledes and the like, but the memory plays tricks and your knowledgeable post about the current incarnation of Forge Worls had me convinced. At least I couldn\'t think of a way of explaining that I may have hallucinated FW stuff in a period when they supposedly didn\'t exist.

They made some good stuff as well. That Grizzly is a beast!