Banksy

[the alleycat]

Originally posted by MPJ

Originally posted by raptaparat 2
some realy awesome stuff there. i sure won\'t consider him as a criminal.

And when he spraypaints your car, how about then?

Is the torture of endangered species really art?

Well lets see... my car would become worth quite a lot more due to Banksy\'s popularity.

And your quote about torturing the elephant by painting it... are you a Sun reader by any chance?

 

[Thecadian]

well i have looked at his website and i thini that what he is doing is a good thing.It may be illegal but id rather see some of his(amazing)work then some of the normal grafitti.I find it thought provoking and v.effective.Go banksy

its just my view any one agree/dissagree with me?

 

[philologus]

Originally posted by MPJ
\"Most\" is on public buildings? Well then that\'s OK. :drunk:

Last I checked it\'s my tax dollars that are paying for these public buildings, and it\'s my tax dollars that pay to clean them up after some twit doodles all over them.

Vandalism is a cowards crime. Cowardly because the purpetrator doesn\'t have the guts to come out and say what they have to say but rather hide in the shadows and deface other peoples hard earned property as their MO.

Just because someone can use their spraycan to make their defacement look like something doesn\'t make them any better than any other punk \'tagger\'. If anything it makes them worse because they could probablly use their tallents in more supportive ways and perhaps actually do their thing where people might want it (and even pay them).

Apparently (from his website) he has done this in LA as well. His criminality knows no boundaries. Call Interpol.


I predict:
The American Response will likely be structured this way:

Democrats in fear that he will graffitti them will meekly \"try to understand what made him act illegally\" They will then demand that his art be subsidized by higher taxes.

Republicans will try to determine if he is 18 years old. If he is they will bomb Canada because he has been known to operate there. If he is younger than 18 they will offer him a job as page.

Libertarians are undecided about whether govt. actually has the authority to ban Graffitti.

The Green party will contact PETA to have him assassinated for forcing the elephant to engage in humiliating behavior.

 

[matty1001]

He\'s either 29 or 30, real name is apparently Robert Banks, and comes from Bristol. Hes even graffitied in Palestine lol

 

[hakoMike]

Someone want to explain the significance of this to me? It seems terribly out of place in the gallery.

He\'s talented, and the \"surprise!\" factor is cute, but ... honestly? I\'d be ticked if I had to clean up after him.

 

[MPJ]

Originally posted by matty1001
He takes alot of famous paintings and draws objects into them. There are a few on the website, the one with the police tape is excellent.

If i saw some of his work on the way to work or college it would surely brighten up my day, would it not yours MPJ?

Oh, I\'m sure some of them would crack a smile on my face, till I thought about how guys like this are responsible for denying decent health care to sick children...

OK, sounds a bit of a stretch but if the government didn\'t have to spend money cleaning up graffiti then there would be more of it to spread around important things like health care and education. More money in health care would mean more doctors, better equipment, etc... and therefore more sick kids would get better treatment.

It sorta figures that the picture I liked (the one with the camera pole) wasn\'t actually painted by him. I\'m hoping he didn\'t do that to the original, if he did I sure hope he had the rights to do that and it wasn\'t some sort of vandalism.

I\'m guessing that Roman thingie wasn\'t actually graffati\'d by him as I see no art to that myriad of horrid defacement.

 

[matty1001]

He buys unsigned paintings from street sellers, which he then paints onto. This eliminates copyright issues for him.

 

[Nelson]

Originally posted by MPJ
Oh, I\'m sure some of them would crack a smile on my face, till I thought about how guys like this are responsible for denying decent health care to sick children...

OK, sounds a bit of a stretch but if the government didn\'t have to spend money cleaning up graffiti then there would be more of it to spread around important things like health care and education. More money in health care would mean more doctors, better equipment, etc... and therefore more sick kids would get better treatment.

It sorta figures that the picture I liked (the one with the camera pole) wasn\'t actually painted by him. I\'m hoping he didn\'t do that to the original, if he did I sure hope he had the rights to do that and it wasn\'t some sort of vandalism.

That\'s a nice sentiment, but the \"man\" has enough money as it is to put healthcare right in Canada. Pumping more and more money into isn\'t going to help. It\'s a shitty, ineffecient system. There have been waaaayyyy more wasteful uses of money by the government than a bit of graffitti cleanup. If that money was put back into their coffers, do you really think they\'d perk up their ears in glee at the though of being able to put more money into healthcare? No, the governor general would probably just fly to Italy for a \"conference.\"

And no, he didn\'t vandalise the original, rather bland, works of art. Take a few minutes to actually browse through his site, and you\'ll probably find the answers.


I like the art. Technically, I suppose he\'s a criminal, but really....Who makes the laws, anyways? I look at it as beautification....

 

[MarkusTay]

Originally posted by supervike

Originally posted by mickc22

Originally posted by MPJ
Now, that picture Supervike posted is quite good. Skillful painting, important message, good reflection on society today. I\'m guessing it\'s the same guy whom all this is about and if so then he indeed does have talent, just has to learn to use it for good, not stupidity.

he only added the camera pole to an existing painting/print, I\'ll grant you skillfully done

Exactly... That is all he has done to it. But don\'t you see what he is saying about it?

<snip>Exactly! Mr.MPJ obviously hasn\'t seen real art so he didn\'t recognize the \'joke\' <snip>

I won\'t defend the guy\'s illegal activities, nor his attempts at self-promotion, but there is a message there. And to me its is kind of profound.

Well said! It\'s not what he adds to the pictures, it\'s what they make you think about, on so many levels. Taking \'classic\' artscapes and \'polluting\' them directly relates to many things that are happening in the world today. Everything from McDonald\'s in the Middle East to the over-development of real estate and the \'rape\' of the natural world.

From the comments, I don\'t think many of you REALLY looked at that picture. The girl is traumatized, obviously hurt, yet the medical personal are being HELD BACK so the camera crew can get a good shot! Don\'t you see? The \'rescuers\' don\'t really give a $hit about the little girl, they just want everyone to know they were there doing something. Like when \'big tobacco\' donates $100,000 to Cancer research, and then spends 5 MILLION bragging about it!

Evil wears a kind face... don\'t you get it? If that\'s not Provocative then we all might as well become the mindless cattle our Gov\'t\'s thinks we are.

 

[laurence]

Bansky

I found this pretty interesting.. Check it out --->

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6069384.stm

 

[freakinacage]

i\'ve been a fan of banksy for a while now. hes very skilled and clever. no doubt a criminal. some of his stuff idont agree with but most is great. it livens up dull public places. better than the \'art\' the government spends thousands on most of the time

 

[Bill]

¡Pulpo!

I think those are some of the more awesome ones. And they are very awesome indeed The elephant really doesn\'t look that tortured to me...

 

[matty1001]

I reckon this is the best thing he has done:
Paris Hilton Album
Mutilated and put on the shelves 500 copies of her album!

 

[philologus]

These two paragraphs from that article (the one posted by Laurence) say all I need to know.


\"Hollywood actress Angelina Jolie reportedly spent more than £200,000 on work by Banksy at a recent Los Angeles sale

Other fans of the artist include Brad Pitt, Jude Law and Keanu Reeves. \"


No thanks.

 

[laurence]

Paris Shmilton

I agree! >>>*edit* with you Matty

And about the best thing ol\' Paris has ever done and ever will do is her porn stuff. Not that I\'ve seen that stuff or would ever want to view that sort of filth I tells ya! (Got to keep the Mormons happy you know.)

You should stick with what you\'re good at if you ask me...

 

[laurence]

Originally posted by philologus
These two paragraphs from that article (the one posted by Laurence) say all I need to know.


\"Hollywood actress Angelina Jolie reportedly spent more than ?00,000 on work by Banksy at a recent Los Angeles sale

Other fans of the artist include Brad Pitt, Jude Law and Keanu Reeves. \"


No thanks.

You\'ve got a good point Philologus.

Darn Brad Pitt keeps popping his head up on quite a few of the stuff that I love and hold dear. For example, Brad\'s a Nick Drake and Jeff Buckley fan. However, I think that the quality of art and music from the above mentioned cats (Nick Drake, Jeff Buckley) is so strong that hearing that guys like Mr. Pitt like them doesn\'t put me off these great musos whatsoever. As time passes art speaks for itself... It\'s this whole new level that I\'m intrigued with. Immortal artists!!! Will Banksy\'s art stand up to the test of time? Only time can tell.

->please forgive the multiple post factor<-

 

[petey]

Why are you two worrying about what celebrities like certain things? Firstly you should be able to formulate your own opinions. Secondly you don\'t know any of the celebrities mentioned so you can\'t really dislike them.

 

[MarkusTay]

I\'ve never met Attila the Hun, but I\'m pretty sure I don\'t like him.

You don\'t need to have met someone in person to formulate an opinion of them.

Michael Jackson
Bano
Ashton Kucher
George Bush (both)

Yeah, I\'ve got some strong opinions about quite a few people....

And as stupid as it sounds, I understand not wanting something because someone you don\'t care for likes it. It\'s simple association, you can\'t help it. Like when you meet your current partner\'s ex, and they\'re gross, and you think \"Damn, what am I doing with her? I am WAY out of her league!\" lol

 

[laurence]

Worrying?

Originally posted by petey
Why are you two worrying about what celebrities like certain things? Firstly you should be able to formulate your own opinions. Secondly you don\'t know any of the celebrities mentioned so you can\'t really dislike them.

Ah, I\'m not worrying about whether celebrities are fond of Bansky etc in the slightest. That\'s what I was getting at in my previous post. And to be honest, I don\'t appreciate you saying that I can\'t formulate my own opinion as I believe that I quite clearly formed my own opinion in my original post in this thread.

*edit* To say that I can only formulate an opinion based on what others think is an insult Petey. And I don\'t agree that you can\'t really dislike celebrities based on you not knowing them personally. That\'s a rediculous statement! By that line of reasoning you can\'t really like them either.

 

[MPJ]

Originally posted by laurence
...And I don\'t agree that you can\'t really dislike celebrities based on you not knowing them personally. That\'s a rediculous statement! By that line of reasoning you can\'t really like them either.

Sorry, but I can\'t see how you can \'like\' or \'dislike\' someone without knowing them either. To form an opinion on someone you don\'t know you have to go by what other people want you to hear or see and, well I prefer to make up my own mind not have the celebrety press do it for me.

Now you can dislike the \'type\' and you can definatlly dislike the \'image\' but to dislike someone personally it really needs to be personal and you can\'t get that through the TV.

As an example: Brad and Angelina seem the freaky, hippy, left wing type (babies in Africa, buying paintings by weirdos, etc...) and typically I don\'t care much for that type. However I\'ve never met Brad or Angelina so I really can\'t comment on my specific feelings towards them. I could say \'I don\'t like them, not one bit\' but maybe they are really swell people and I\'m throwing out bad joo-joo for no good reason?

EDIT:

Lets take it one step further sall we...

By reading my posts, espically in this forum, I\'m sure a few people are thinking \"That MPJ, what a frigging arse.\" (and they\'d be right sadly). But in reality I\'m a pretty easy going and friendly sort who plays well with others, I just like a good arguement from time to time and I\'m rather opinionated (but I respect others opinions no matter how daft). Now it would be pretty darn silly to not like someone because of their thoughts on some \'artist\' who\'s a bit touched (read as mental in case \'touched\' doesn\'t translate to other countries versions of english or is to outdated).