been painting for awhile but i still paint like a beginner

dogsrand

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How much do i nee to dillute vallejo game and model colors for washes. Even 1 to 10 leaves me with too much paint not in recesses.
Much thanks for any help in advance.
 

chrismisterx

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It really depends on what your trying to do with the wash.

Maybe you could post a WIP pic and explain what your trying to do, then the great painters on the site can help you out more.
 

dogsrand

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maybe my expectations are too high. When i complete highlights they seem to stand out too much so i do a 1 to 10 wash of the base color to draw tem out more. After i do that i have to go back and do the highlights over again because they look dull. Maybe thats the normal process. Common sense would be for me just to keep dilluting to see if i can get it only in the crevices, but sometimes im not big on common sense.
 

chrismisterx

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Hmm, are you using the wash to shade or to help blend the highlights together to make it looks smoother ?

If its to shade what I would do is put the base coat on, then add the wash to shade before I started the highlights.

If its to help blend it together, you do what I do already, paint highlights on then add the wash, then redo the highlights.
 

Ritual

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Often the problem with washes can be that you are applying too much of the paint on to the model and not that the wash is not thin enough.
 

dogsrand

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i guess in my small mind i assume that you need to put a good amount on in order for it to get in the cracks.

Sometimes i even underwhelm myself.
 

tidoco2222

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The thing with washes is that you do tend to think that if you put alot on it will do the work for you, if you have thinned it too much there is little chance that you will get a good amount in the places you want it.
I find it is best to treat it more like a glaze and try to paint it on evenly, another tip if using inks is to add a tiny amount of washing up liquid, you know the stuff you wash the dishes with,
This breaks the surfacetension of the ink/water mix and gives much more control as the natural tendancy is for it to flow into the recesses being unable to retain its surface tension.
 

Ritual

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If you flood the mini with paint you will have no control over how the paint will look when it dries. If you put on less paint it will not have the same effect, but then you can apply another wash after the first one has dried, and then another one if need be. Thus, you can build up the effect slowly and have control all the way, instead of flooding the mini with paint and hope it turns out good.
 

JaPizzy

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It seems to me that what you\'re trying to accomplish is to use the wash to glaze so it will soften your highlights a little.

I wouldn\'t try to get it in the cracks at all. When glazing like that I usually try to keep the coat even and thin as possible. This way it will tint all of the layers evenly and soften the transition of color as a whole. You can always add more layers of glazing but you can\'t take it away once it\'s dry.
 

Highbulp Billy

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Originally posted by tidoco2222
...another tip if using inks is to add a tiny amount of washing up liquid, you know the stuff you wash the dishes with...
Nope, you\'ve lost me there???
I\'ll ask the wife if she knows what it is lol
 

dogsrand

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heres some pics of my current project. lots of work to be done still the straps, the weapons, finishing the metallics, and the head

minis044.jpg



minis043.jpg
 

Hinton

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Originally posted by Ritual
If you flood the mini with paint you will have no control over how the paint will look when it dries.

I used to do that. I thought I needed to just drown the mini with a wash and then it would turn out like I wanted. Nope. Not even close.

It\'s all about paint control. Know where you want the paint to go and use just enough to get it there. As the old saying goes: \"Less is more.\"

Also, when applying very thin paint, whether it\'s a wash, highlight or whatever, you may think that nothing has happened and apply it again right away (guilty :redface: ). This could be leading to the highlights coming out way too dull. Apply it and let it dry; you\'ll see the effect.
 

dogsrand

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Okay ispent about 3 hours on it since the last picture


minis049.jpg


I think this is a big improvement for me overall let me know what you think.
 

Ogrebane

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Put a blank back ground when you take the pic so the background doesnt distract. The blue is looking good. maybe needs to go higher with the high lights.
 

goblinLB

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iv just tryed blending for highlighting please coment on my mini it is not yet active http://www.coolminiornot.com/140565 thanks
al the best goblinlb
 

J2FcM

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Originally posted by dogsrand
maybe my expectations are too high.

Never say that!!! High expectations definitly will require more time to meet... but if you really like your mini and want it to be nice eye candy for life, spend the time. Work slowly, and practice... Of all the advice, PRACTICE, try new things, and put in the effort. ahhh, practice rocks!
 
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